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I really hope that you are being sarcastic. Are you saying that we should be mindless zombies, doing whatever the government tells us to do? If the founding fathers of this country hadn't questioned their government, we would probably still be a part of England. If we hadn't questioned our government, civil rights would only be for rich, white men. Are you saying that's how our country should be? If you truly believe that, then I suggest that you find a nice Communist country to live in.
As a teacher, I think students SHOULD question-EVERYTHING, including me.
Zippy wrote: "WTF?"
My exact thoughts. I really hope that he was trying to be sarcastic, and that it wasn't received well by us. I can't comprehend someone thinking like that.
Well, maybe it should have been conveyed a little better. There are some people who think like that, so how would we know?
Exactly Laurin, I'm new here and this is a place where I thought Intelligent conversation and an individuals thoughts could be conveyed in a respectful manner. If I wanted sarcasm i'd go back to the mindless rantings of the Huffington Post message boards.
I took his entire comment as tongue in cheek.
1984 was a great fictionalized account of a futuristic totalitarian regime and the people who live in it. I'd still like to know why the question was raised, meaning, someone saw some reason it should be.
Zippy wrote: "1984 was a great fictionalized account of a futuristic totalitarian regime and the people who live in it. I'd still like to know why the question was raised, meaning, someone saw some reason it sho..."
I'd also like to know why the person that raised it has not (as far as I know) responded in any way/shape/form to the question. When I raise questions on forums, I make a point to respond so I can clarify, etc.
Mary wrote: "I took his entire comment as tongue in cheek."
I'm glad that you did. But I know some people who believe this way, so I did not want to assume that it was or wasn't sarcasm. I was told once that I should be shot in the head for something as trivial as a football team, so I tend to take things seriously unless told otherwise.
thats what i was going for when i asked the quetion im a highschool student and i felt i bit uncomfable having to read it for school
Victoria wrote: "thats what i was going for when i asked the quetion im a highschool student and i felt i bit uncomfable having to read it for school"
Why exactly do you feel uncomfortable reading it? I'd love to hear your opinion about it. I read it as a senior in high school, and I loved it. I know a lot of people didn't prefer it, but I didn't think anyone I went to school with was uncomfortable with it.
really people....none no better about freedom being taken away from them in america more than military members. Being one, i respect that James had enough balls to approach this subject with some humor. He is spot on with the ignorance of Americans today and how fast they would believe that his statement was anything but sarcastic.
Let it go already. I was also in the military and more importantly, I've kept my eyes and ears open for my entire 48 years of existence. Watch how you throw the word 'ignorance' around, you have no room. I understand sarcasm and I also understand there are actually people out there who would make a serious comment like that. Message boards aren’t always conducive to clear communication.
Hahaha, you guys are being ridiculous : )
I read it and I didn't compare it to my high school... lol
it was just probably the most mature book I had to read in school I'm just not in to that stuff I personally didn't like it
This comment is absurd. I taught this book to 8th graders and it they enjoyed it, especially in comparing it to current YA literature like The Hunger Games trilogy. Anyone who thinks this is not one of the most important American novels of the 20th century is completely ignorant.
Olivia C,
Apparently this comment was supposed to be sarcastic. I had the same reaction as you, so I am not disagreeing with your comment, but it is the opinion of the majority that this is not intended to be taken seriously.
I know some people who think this way, which is why I took it as not being a satire, but it is supposedly facetious and nothing more.
thought this was goodreads.. What happened to intelligent people who knew what sarcasm was. Anyone who took this post literally needs to reevaluate their book collection :(, or use the devil that be teh interwebz a little more ;). Add a little more satire to your diet.
Not being able to deduce sarcasm from a toneless internet post does not indicate lack of intelligence. I have an IQ of 155 and I took it literally. Just saying.
I read it in high school and did not compare it to my high school, but to the dangers of big government
I don't think readers like James should be allowed to post on a writing website, especially about books like this. I'm not sure there's any place in a literary context for satirical humour and attempts to show up problematic ideologies by raising them to their logical conclusion to highlight the ridiculousness of that conclusion. I mean, whatever would George Orwell have thought about such writing and behaviour?
I don't think people that say that people shouldn't be allowed to write satire should be allowed to post on a reading-related website.
(Note: this post contained satire.)
Ha. Is Goodreads getting in on the act? Some might say that having to label satire explicitly reduces its impact. Under that theory, does the fact that clicking 'more' in fact gives you 'less' on Brian's post evidence Goodreads' own sense of irony? It's watching us...
I do not appreciate your condescending tone. Despite your apparent mastery, there are still those of use that cannot deduce tone through a soundless internet post. For these people, the note at the end of Brian's post was helpful, and increased impact by way of allowing complete understanding.
Live and let live, Terry Pearce.
Axela,
My tone in writing was nothing but playful. Which in a way proves your point about the difficulty in deducing tone. But I'd suggest it also suggests that you shouldn't be so quick yourself (given that you've admitted tone is difficult to read) to assume that tones you read into things are what was intended. For instance, it might be easy to read 'apparent mastery' as having a sarcastic and mocking tone, but I'll refrain from taking offence.
Live and let live, Axela.
The motves of a living, breathing human creature are not as predictable or as easily understood as those of a fictious character. Forgive me for having an IQ of 155 that does not allow me to be perfect in social situations. I need not explain myself further to you or to anyone.
I suggest that "one" does mind "one's" own business, and allow those who are not perfect to live in peace.
James W. and Terry Pearce have been vaporised. Everyone else go about your day.
wow, are you serious? "They might be tempted to question these programs and draw parallels between the world of 1984 and the America of today." yeah, they might, and that would be great, thay way they wont become robots of the goverment, and they will start questioning things,you're acting exacly like in 1984, do whatever the goverment says and dont ask questions
They were joking, it's supposedly sarcasm. Well-disguised sarcasm.
@Axela Thank you for pointing out the "well-disguised" sarcasm. I was pissed! It took me a minute to get it. People do actually sound like that nowadays.
No problem Alice. I got offended and wrote a nasty message before other people pointed it out to me. :)
This must be a sarcastic comment. Surely.
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I really hope that you are being sarcastic. Are you saying that we should be mindless zombies, doing whatever the government tells us to do? If the founding fathers of this country hadn't questioned their government, we would probably still be a part of England. If we hadn't questioned our government, civil rights would only be for rich, white men. Are you saying that's how our country should be? If you truly believe that, then I suggest that you find a nice Communist country to live in.
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As a teacher, I think students SHOULD question-EVERYTHING, including me.
Zippy wrote: "WTF?"My exact thoughts. I really hope that he was trying to be sarcastic, and that it wasn't received well by us. I can't comprehend someone thinking like that.
Well, maybe it should have been conveyed a little better. There are some people who think like that, so how would we know?
Exactly Laurin, I'm new here and this is a place where I thought Intelligent conversation and an individuals thoughts could be conveyed in a respectful manner. If I wanted sarcasm i'd go back to the mindless rantings of the Huffington Post message boards.
I took his entire comment as tongue in cheek.
1984 was a great fictionalized account of a futuristic totalitarian regime and the people who live in it. I'd still like to know why the question was raised, meaning, someone saw some reason it should be.
Zippy wrote: "1984 was a great fictionalized account of a futuristic totalitarian regime and the people who live in it. I'd still like to know why the question was raised, meaning, someone saw some reason it sho..."I'd also like to know why the person that raised it has not (as far as I know) responded in any way/shape/form to the question. When I raise questions on forums, I make a point to respond so I can clarify, etc.
Mary wrote: "I took his entire comment as tongue in cheek."I'm glad that you did. But I know some people who believe this way, so I did not want to assume that it was or wasn't sarcasm. I was told once that I should be shot in the head for something as trivial as a football team, so I tend to take things seriously unless told otherwise.
thats what i was going for when i asked the quetion im a highschool student and i felt i bit uncomfable having to read it for school
Victoria wrote: "thats what i was going for when i asked the quetion im a highschool student and i felt i bit uncomfable having to read it for school"Why exactly do you feel uncomfortable reading it? I'd love to hear your opinion about it. I read it as a senior in high school, and I loved it. I know a lot of people didn't prefer it, but I didn't think anyone I went to school with was uncomfortable with it.
really people....none no better about freedom being taken away from them in america more than military members. Being one, i respect that James had enough balls to approach this subject with some humor. He is spot on with the ignorance of Americans today and how fast they would believe that his statement was anything but sarcastic.
Let it go already. I was also in the military and more importantly, I've kept my eyes and ears open for my entire 48 years of existence. Watch how you throw the word 'ignorance' around, you have no room. I understand sarcasm and I also understand there are actually people out there who would make a serious comment like that. Message boards aren’t always conducive to clear communication.
Hahaha, you guys are being ridiculous : )
I read it and I didn't compare it to my high school... lol
it was just probably the most mature book I had to read in school I'm just not in to that stuff I personally didn't like it
This comment is absurd. I taught this book to 8th graders and it they enjoyed it, especially in comparing it to current YA literature like The Hunger Games trilogy. Anyone who thinks this is not one of the most important American novels of the 20th century is completely ignorant.
Olivia C,Apparently this comment was supposed to be sarcastic. I had the same reaction as you, so I am not disagreeing with your comment, but it is the opinion of the majority that this is not intended to be taken seriously.
I know some people who think this way, which is why I took it as not being a satire, but it is supposedly facetious and nothing more.
thought this was goodreads.. What happened to intelligent people who knew what sarcasm was. Anyone who took this post literally needs to reevaluate their book collection :(, or use the devil that be teh interwebz a little more ;). Add a little more satire to your diet.
Not being able to deduce sarcasm from a toneless internet post does not indicate lack of intelligence. I have an IQ of 155 and I took it literally. Just saying.
I read it in high school and did not compare it to my high school, but to the dangers of big government
I don't think readers like James should be allowed to post on a writing website, especially about books like this. I'm not sure there's any place in a literary context for satirical humour and attempts to show up problematic ideologies by raising them to their logical conclusion to highlight the ridiculousness of that conclusion. I mean, whatever would George Orwell have thought about such writing and behaviour?
I don't think people that say that people shouldn't be allowed to write satire should be allowed to post on a reading-related website.(Note: this post contained satire.)
Ha. Is Goodreads getting in on the act? Some might say that having to label satire explicitly reduces its impact. Under that theory, does the fact that clicking 'more' in fact gives you 'less' on Brian's post evidence Goodreads' own sense of irony? It's watching us...
I do not appreciate your condescending tone. Despite your apparent mastery, there are still those of use that cannot deduce tone through a soundless internet post. For these people, the note at the end of Brian's post was helpful, and increased impact by way of allowing complete understanding. Live and let live, Terry Pearce.
Axela,My tone in writing was nothing but playful. Which in a way proves your point about the difficulty in deducing tone. But I'd suggest it also suggests that you shouldn't be so quick yourself (given that you've admitted tone is difficult to read) to assume that tones you read into things are what was intended. For instance, it might be easy to read 'apparent mastery' as having a sarcastic and mocking tone, but I'll refrain from taking offence.
Live and let live, Axela.
The motves of a living, breathing human creature are not as predictable or as easily understood as those of a fictious character. Forgive me for having an IQ of 155 that does not allow me to be perfect in social situations. I need not explain myself further to you or to anyone. I suggest that "one" does mind "one's" own business, and allow those who are not perfect to live in peace.
James W. and Terry Pearce have been vaporised. Everyone else go about your day.
wow, are you serious? "They might be tempted to question these programs and draw parallels between the world of 1984 and the America of today." yeah, they might, and that would be great, thay way they wont become robots of the goverment, and they will start questioning things,you're acting exacly like in 1984, do whatever the goverment says and dont ask questions
They were joking, it's supposedly sarcasm. Well-disguised sarcasm.
@Axela Thank you for pointing out the "well-disguised" sarcasm. I was pissed! It took me a minute to get it. People do actually sound like that nowadays.
No problem Alice. I got offended and wrote a nasty message before other people pointed it out to me. :)
This must be a sarcastic comment. Surely.
