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message 1: by Jingizu (new)

Jingizu I so agree with you Jonathan!

Aren't we the same culture that complains about all the violence in movies despite the beautiful act of sex and nudity being the aspects that garner R ratings instead?

Exactly! Its okay to show violence even in kiddie animated movies, but just show a breast and suddenly its R rated! Ridiculous


message 2: by Peter (new)

Peter Fell "...a shamanistic, transformation ritual," yes. There are many forms of magic in this novel, and this was one of them.

I truly despise the use of pornographic descriptors people use for this scene like gang bang and orgy. The connotations of those words are antithetical to the spirit of the scene. But I think it's important for people to feel morally superior sometimes, even if it's over a work of fiction.


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