Exciting News About Goodreads: We're Joining the Amazon Family!
When Elizabeth and I started Goodreads from my living room seven years ago, we set out to create a better way for people to find and share books they love. It's been a wild ride seeing how the company has grown and watching as more than 16 million readers from across the globe have joined Goodreads and connected over a passion for books.
Today I'm really happy to announce a new milestone for Goodreads: We are joining the Amazon family. We truly could not think of a more perfect partner for Goodreads as we both share a love of books and an appreciation for the authors who write them. We also both love to invent products and services that touch millions of people.
I'm excited about this for three reasons:
1. With the reach and resources of Amazon, Goodreads can introduce more readers to our vibrant community of book lovers and create an even better experience for our members.
2. Our members have been asking us to bring the Goodreads experience to an e-reader for a long time. Now we're looking forward to bringing Goodreads to the most popular e-reader in the world, Kindle, and further reinventing what reading can be.
3. Amazon supports us continuing to grow our vision as an independent entity, under the Goodreads brand and with our unique culture.
It's important to be clear that Goodreads and the awesome team behind it are not going away. Goodreads will continue to be the wonderful community that we all cherish. We plan to continue offering you everything that you love about the site—the ability to track what you read, discover great books, discuss and share them with fellow book lovers, and connect directly with your favorite authors—and your reviews and ratings will remain here on Goodreads. And it's incredibly important to us that we remain a home for all types of readers, no matter if you read on paper, audio, digitally, from scrolls, or even stone tablets.
For all of you Kindle readers, there's obviously an extra bonus in this announcement. You've asked us for a long time to be able to integrate your Kindle and Goodreads experiences. Making that option a reality is one of our top priorities.
Our team gets out of bed every day motivated by the belief that the right book in the right hands can change the world. Now Goodreads can help make that happen in an even bigger and more meaningful way thanks to joining the Amazon family. (And if you want to be part of this, please check out our Jobs page for open positions. We've got a lot of hires to make!)
This is an emotional day for me. Goodreads is more than a company to me – it's something that Elizabeth and I created because we wanted it to exist. Since then it has grown a lot and become a place we love working at, full of incredibly smart and passionate people who also believe in our mission. I feel a little like a college graduate – happy to come to this milestone, nostalgic for the past amazing seven years, and incredibly, incredibly, excited for the future.
Otis
P.S. For the more official version of the announcement, here's the press release that went out today.
P.P.S. Please let us know – what integration with Kindle would you love to see the most?
Today I'm really happy to announce a new milestone for Goodreads: We are joining the Amazon family. We truly could not think of a more perfect partner for Goodreads as we both share a love of books and an appreciation for the authors who write them. We also both love to invent products and services that touch millions of people.
I'm excited about this for three reasons:
1. With the reach and resources of Amazon, Goodreads can introduce more readers to our vibrant community of book lovers and create an even better experience for our members.
2. Our members have been asking us to bring the Goodreads experience to an e-reader for a long time. Now we're looking forward to bringing Goodreads to the most popular e-reader in the world, Kindle, and further reinventing what reading can be.
3. Amazon supports us continuing to grow our vision as an independent entity, under the Goodreads brand and with our unique culture.
It's important to be clear that Goodreads and the awesome team behind it are not going away. Goodreads will continue to be the wonderful community that we all cherish. We plan to continue offering you everything that you love about the site—the ability to track what you read, discover great books, discuss and share them with fellow book lovers, and connect directly with your favorite authors—and your reviews and ratings will remain here on Goodreads. And it's incredibly important to us that we remain a home for all types of readers, no matter if you read on paper, audio, digitally, from scrolls, or even stone tablets.
For all of you Kindle readers, there's obviously an extra bonus in this announcement. You've asked us for a long time to be able to integrate your Kindle and Goodreads experiences. Making that option a reality is one of our top priorities.
Our team gets out of bed every day motivated by the belief that the right book in the right hands can change the world. Now Goodreads can help make that happen in an even bigger and more meaningful way thanks to joining the Amazon family. (And if you want to be part of this, please check out our Jobs page for open positions. We've got a lot of hires to make!)
This is an emotional day for me. Goodreads is more than a company to me – it's something that Elizabeth and I created because we wanted it to exist. Since then it has grown a lot and become a place we love working at, full of incredibly smart and passionate people who also believe in our mission. I feel a little like a college graduate – happy to come to this milestone, nostalgic for the past amazing seven years, and incredibly, incredibly, excited for the future.
Otis
P.S. For the more official version of the announcement, here's the press release that went out today.
P.P.S. Please let us know – what integration with Kindle would you love to see the most?

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Actually, I believe amazon is doing exactly the opposite - trying to make sure that reviewers have actually read the book. But they go too far if they insist the book must have been purchased on amazon.

Has anyone calculated what that membership fee would have to have been to match or even come close to what amazon paid? Does anyone know what amazon paid?

However I believe someone cannot leave a rating without a review.


Let's hope they keep GoodReads instead of Shelfari. *fingers crossed*"
Shelfari became unbearable after Amazon bought it. That's why I came to Goodreads.

On this day, Easter Sunday (for me), I'd like to take some time to add some warmth to this thread. (No, not warmth from Amazon.)
If you are afraid to leave GR because you are afraid to lose your groups and/or friends, it's always a good idea to see if they are actually 'staying'. To me, this is not a win. The only people who will feed Amazon, are the same ones who already loved Amazon. Others, are leaving, or will leave, when Amazon comes to power.
There are several places to go, but there are some helpful threads on librarything. I just joined, and I'm not super active...but I do feel a sense of belonging already. Everything from fighting to friendship over there. (Just like family reunions.)
If anything, on this day, I am grateful that we have other places. The new place opening up Rob is talking about. Finding new communities that everyone has been sharing. It is in times of despair, that sometimes light can be found.
This experience has also changed me. I am ready to give up the convenience of Amazon. I was even coming into a very high review rank, but I don't want it anymore. I am switching my blog to no longer reviewing on Amazon. It's time to find a better way.
For those with the courage to walk away from your friendship and groups, I applaud you. For those of you who don't know where to go to find your place, sign up to different reading sites. You'll find each other.
In fact, site exporting is a little jammed on sites because there are so many leaving. (librarything had over 300,000 in there, so I suspect many sites have this problem. Expect to wait for exportation no matter where you go.) On Librarything, we are now the Goodreads Refugees. There are threads to help with problems, as well as a thread trying to find lost friends from goodreads there. I am sure this will probably happen on several sites, if it's not.
So, on this day, let's try not to be angry. Things change. Remember myspace? Goodreads is now myspace to me. I will remember the good times, but it is now part of my past, and there is a brighter future somewhere else. Good luck to everyone, whether you stay or go. I do know with even one person leaving, GR will never be the same as it once was.
Go out there, and discover new worlds of reading and new sites. Bless you all.
If you are afraid to leave GR because you are afraid to lose your groups and/or friends, it's always a good idea to see if they are actually 'staying'. To me, this is not a win. The only people who will feed Amazon, are the same ones who already loved Amazon. Others, are leaving, or will leave, when Amazon comes to power.
There are several places to go, but there are some helpful threads on librarything. I just joined, and I'm not super active...but I do feel a sense of belonging already. Everything from fighting to friendship over there. (Just like family reunions.)
If anything, on this day, I am grateful that we have other places. The new place opening up Rob is talking about. Finding new communities that everyone has been sharing. It is in times of despair, that sometimes light can be found.
This experience has also changed me. I am ready to give up the convenience of Amazon. I was even coming into a very high review rank, but I don't want it anymore. I am switching my blog to no longer reviewing on Amazon. It's time to find a better way.
For those with the courage to walk away from your friendship and groups, I applaud you. For those of you who don't know where to go to find your place, sign up to different reading sites. You'll find each other.
In fact, site exporting is a little jammed on sites because there are so many leaving. (librarything had over 300,000 in there, so I suspect many sites have this problem. Expect to wait for exportation no matter where you go.) On Librarything, we are now the Goodreads Refugees. There are threads to help with problems, as well as a thread trying to find lost friends from goodreads there. I am sure this will probably happen on several sites, if it's not.
So, on this day, let's try not to be angry. Things change. Remember myspace? Goodreads is now myspace to me. I will remember the good times, but it is now part of my past, and there is a brighter future somewhere else. Good luck to everyone, whether you stay or go. I do know with even one person leaving, GR will never be the same as it once was.
Go out there, and discover new worlds of reading and new sites. Bless you all.


Nice posting.

Does anyone plan to respond to any of our questions and concerns?"
Micky there has been a response posted by Patrick and by Otis. But you would've had to have followed this thread from the beginning, reading all pages of comments (like me lol) to catch them.
To jump to Otis' March 28 5:48 PM EST response in this thread go to http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1...

Thank you to the poster of message #1908, now departed from GR, nice positive spin--on to other worlds!!
Back to reading!!
Now that Goodreads has chosen to surrender its independence I wish to withdraw my writings and delete my membership. I don't see the way to do that, so either advise me how or do it for me.
Dai Alanye
Dai Alanye
I've decided to delete my account. Sad, sad day, but I feel it is for the best. This partnership has been bothering me since I first heard the news. I've transferred all of my books and reviews to LibraryThing for the time being. We'll see what new ventures start in response to the sellout of GR. I really would have paid a yearly fee to keep GR out of Amazon's hands. Take care everyone and hopefully we'll meet again on another site in the future. Keep reading -- it makes the world a more humane place :)

@Dai:
1.(optional step) http://www.goodreads.com/review/import -> Remove all my books
2. http://www.goodreads.com/user/edit -> settings -> delete my account (at the bottom of the page)
I'm going to do the same once I've decided where to move my books.
1.(optional step) http://www.goodreads.com/review/import -> Remove all my books
2. http://www.goodreads.com/user/edit -> settings -> delete my account (at the bottom of the page)
I'm going to do the same once I've decided where to move my books.

If you are afraid to leave GR because you are afraid to lose your g..."
That was a wonderful post. Thank you for it.
It's Goodreads' loss that you and others like you are leaving. It does make me a bit sad that Amazon and those who remain here don't seem to understand or appreciate what they're losing...but I suppose it's Gideon's Band. We who leave will find a better place. We can hope that ultimately, this change will be for the better...even if that's hard to imagine now.
A year from now, those of us who leave won't be losing any sleep over the fate of Goodreads. Nor, perhaps, will those who remain here. But that's between them and Amazon.
For myself, I think I'll end up at LibraryThing. It's Hobson's choice, perhaps, but I'll try to look at it positively. I'll keep looking for new sites and new communities, and I'll never trust any site as the sole repository of my writing ever again.
Good luck, everybody!

The reality is that your unstructured data is worth many times over what they paid you. I'm willing to bet that even before this deal became publicly announced Amazon grabbed an exact image of what's on your servers. So those of us who threaten to delete their account, it's probably too late. Because that was the data Amazon wanted.
The criticism of authors reviewing other authors work. And the reviews of family and friends of the authors is a point of legitimate concern. Being a professional data analyst and programmer I could surmise that it might be in Amazon's best interest to allow the status quo on good reads to remain as is. The logic behind that is that it gives them a statistical point of analytical control.
Will we see Kindle list integration, syncing of collections, and more advertisements? Possibly. If we use shelfari as any type of benchmark, then this site should be expected to remain largely unchanged. I would then suspect that the data gathered will be quietly used to be integrated into the main Amazon.com site.

Also hoping that Amazon's backing can lead to a site redesign. It functions very well but could definitely look better.

If authors have to list their books, then are book entries limited to books with participating authors? What if my favorite author hates social media and feels readers should have safe spaces where they are free to discuss without authors looking over their shoulders? What if readers on your site give negative feedback to authors who "listed" their books?
Continuing to repeat the canard about Abe Books and its supposed forty percent"
Book, thanks for the posting and your enthusiasm for books. I'll take your questions one at a time:
1. ThirdScribe is a "freemium" service where membership is free but some can pay for extra services. Currently, the only paid level is for authors, and that enables them to list their books, have their own hosted website, and several other special services. In the future, we plan to expand the paid levels to encompass more member needs.
2. Book entries are limited to participating authors, with the possible exception of works in the open domain (we're working on that part).
3. If your author hates social media, they might not be found on ThirdScribe -- it's up to them. I hope we can make the social media experience easy and comfortable enough for them to join, but that is up to them. Of course, they may choose to list their books with us and not be an active participant. If you join and don't see the authors and books you like, you can request us to invite them and I will extend them a lengthy free trial for them to try it out.
4. As for negative reviews, that's the price you pay for freedom of speech. We don't guarantee happy readers, just a place and tools to connect with them.
5. As for LibraryThing and it's ownership, the 40% number has been widely reported for a very long time -- it's actually on their Wikipedia entry. It's been cited many times over (InfoToday, Library Journal, Shelf Awareness and others), even in several of the articles covering the CGI investment. I don't think due diligence is the issue here, but the secrecy of business dealings.
This is what Tim says about it on his recent post on LibraryThing and it is, for me at least, the final word on the matter:
"At the same time, it's well known that Amazon has an indirect but real stake in LibraryThing—they bought Abebooks, who were our first minority partner. People keep reporting that Amazon has 40%. That's simply not true—it fails to take account of our second funder, Bowker. (I remain the majority; I can't say how the rest divides up.) But this certainly muddies the message. For what it's worth, I want LibraryThing to make more money, and therefore my, Bowker and Amazon's stake to be worth more and more, but with Amazon now holding 100% ownership of BOTH our competitors (Goodreads and Shelfari), we can hardly do so without emphasizing what sets us apart."
- http://www.librarything.com/topic/152033
As for ThirdScribe not being your thing -- that's no problem. That is exactly why there are so many options out there. I hope you give ThirdScribe a try, at least, but more importantly, I want you to find the service that's right for you.

You're welcome, Sarah!

Also hoping that Amaz..."
Is the tide of this discussion beginning to turn?


According to the LA Times report on this ( http://articles.latimes.com/2013/mar/... ):
"To date, Goodreads members have added more than 530 million books to their digital shelves and written 23 million reviews. There are more than 30,000 book clubs on the site."
With 23 million reviews, 530 books and 16 million members, it is unlikely that either Jeff Bezos or Otis Chandler very much cares about a few thousand disenchanted members.





I've imported my Goodreads CSV to Booklikes as well, in addition to LibraryThing. I'll be reporting my progress to the new "Escaping Amazon" community over on Google Plus, at https://plus.google.com/communities/1... . It's a place outside of the control of Goodreads and Amazon, to discuss alternatives to both sites - for book reviews and shopping.
Anyone's welcome to join.
I'm PMaranci on both LibraryThing and Booklikes, by the way. My books haven't imported to Booklikes yet (they're inundated), but I'd certainly welcome friends at either location!

One thing to be aware of is that you're limited to 200 books on a free account at LibraryThing, unless you get a special one-year free membership no later than today (Sunday, March 31). Otherwise, if your import file contains more than 200 books, they'll all be imported - but you won't be able to add more unless you get a paid membership.
I'm considering that very possibility, but I'm going to wait and compare Booklikes and LibraryThing, along with any other likely-seeming site before I decide which one to commit to. That said, I for one will never entrust my reviews to a single site ever again. It's all too clear that any site which becomes too popular or successful is liable to be bought out and gutted by some corporate giant. I'm not going to put hundreds of hours of unpaid work in to fatten the bottom line of some conscienceless oligarch!


Actually there are a surprising number of them already. Some of us are testing them out and discussing them at "Escaping Amazon" on Google Plus. But the frustrating thing is that the community will effectively be fragmented.
Any time a community gets large and influential enough, some huge corporation buys it out. Some members leave, and over a year or so management is either replaced or simply clamps down on the remaining community. Any challenge to the profit line is silenced; members who question this too loudly are deleted, and posts which threaten the status quo disappear.
There's a crying need for some way for people to connect and maintain community without being subject to huge concentrations of cash and power (like Amazon). But I can't envision a solution to that problem. I wish I could!

Yes, Amazon is good a providing good user experience - they make a point of this to retain shoppers. It's not because they're nice. I'll occasionally shop for some things there, albeit grudgingly and guiltily, and only because I'd have to drive out to a walmart or somesuch bs anyway. But I won't buy books. They have the entire publishing industry and bookselling industry in a vise, and they won't stop squishing until it's just them left.

More than GRs ever did.


By all accounts Barnes & Nobles isn't likely to survive much longer. It's hard to imagine that the US will no longer have even a single nationwide brick and mortar bookstore chain!
And as for Nook owners...well, as one of them, I'm frankly worried.


Good god. Goodreads was valuable to the extent that it was not Amazon and thus not hollering Buy This. Goodbye.
Micky "CafeAuLait" wrote: "It seems like they really don't care about our concerns because I have yet to see a reply from the GR team.
Does anyone plan to respond to any of our questions and concerns?"
You can find a reply from Otis on page 15 of these comments, but I haven't seen anything since. On Facebook they were telling people to email them directly with questions but I received a "we have no plans to change stuff" type reply which did not address the specific questions I posed. They have not replied to my follow up email, in which I asked for responses to my specific questions. While that fact makes me somewhat dubious, I am trying to take into account the fact that this has all taken place over the Easter weekend and they doubtless have thousands of emails to deal with. Still...
Does anyone plan to respond to any of our questions and concerns?"
You can find a reply from Otis on page 15 of these comments, but I haven't seen anything since. On Facebook they were telling people to email them directly with questions but I received a "we have no plans to change stuff" type reply which did not address the specific questions I posed. They have not replied to my follow up email, in which I asked for responses to my specific questions. While that fact makes me somewhat dubious, I am trying to take into account the fact that this has all taken place over the Easter weekend and they doubtless have thousands of emails to deal with. Still...





They don't do hardware well, in my experience. Out of four Nooks I've owned, three have been defective and unusable - and the fourth is shoddy. I actually prefer reading ebooks on my phone (a Samsung Galaxy Nexus) to my Nook.
Can't say I care for B&N's pricing, either. They're as crooked as Amazon, in that regard; they're just not as successful at it. I prefer fairly-priced DRM-free books such as the ones put out by Baen.
Does anyone plan to respond to any of our questions and concerns?"
That is really the key question. I too am disappointed with the lack of response from the (former) GR owners.