Why I Won't Read Your Stuff

Harlan Ellison once said, and I paraphrase fairly closely, that it is an omnipresent conceit among the laity that anyone can write, that the average person wouldn’t think that he or she could be a brain surgeon or a prima ballerina or an opera singer, but that somehow the average person seems to think that anyone can write. Well, it simply isn’t so. Not everyone can sing, as watching “American Idol” surely must have proven to the general public, and not everyone can write. (Although I suspect a great many more people can sing than can write, but I digress.) People who can write tend to discover that fact early. They might not do anything serious about it for a great many years, as in the case of Joseph Conrad, for example, but they tend to know it, just as people with natural musical talent tend to discover it early. The average person doesn’t simply wake up one day and decide to be a classical violinist. It takes talent, talent that not everyone has, not to mention lots of training and practice. But there is no shortage of people who think that they can write a book. And, apparently, they don’t seem to think that it requires talent, training, or practice.

Now, this is not to say that people cannot be taught to write clearly, simply, and grammatically. (Though these days, that seems to be asking the impossible, given what’s become of our educational system.) However, it is one thing to be able to write a lucid business memo, and it is quite another to craft an essay on the level of Christopher Hitchens or Gore Vidal. And it is one thing to write an entertaining Facebook post, but it is quite another to write an entertaining novel.

You want to make a writer cringe? Ask him to read your stuff. Tell her you are going to publish your memoirs and you’d like to get her opinion, or worse yet, her help in getting them published. I won’t presume to speak for all writers. Doubtless, there are those selfless, noble souls out there who are perfectly willing to read your short story/memoirs/Great American Novel (though I suspect they just don’t know how to say “No!”) In fact, I used to be one of those poor, benighted souls. In trying to be empathic, in the past, I had often agreed to look at people’s writing and to give them “feedback,” or a “critique,” but you see, that wasn’t what they really wanted. When people want you to look at their writing, they don’t really want your honest opinion. They might tell you that they want your honest opinion, and they might even fool themselves into thinking that’s what they want, but what they really want is validation. And when they don’t get it, they tend to get pissed off.

Think back to all those early episodes of the aforementioned “American Idol” program, when people came in to audition who had voices that sounded like cats being fed through meat grinders. Now, they didn’t THINK that they sounded like cats being fed through meat grinders. They thought they sounded like Adele. And, assuming they were not completely crazy, which some of them clearly were, they were under this delusion because their relatives and best friends told them they sounded like Adele. You saw the would-be stage mothers on the show, getting all bent out of shape and insisting that the judges “just didn’t know REAL talent!” And, chances are, you laughed. Because, after all, that’s why they put those people on that show, to amuse the audience and be exploited. (Which is one of the reasons why “The Voice” is a much better program, because they do not exploit deluded people.)
Writers often have to deal with the same sort of thing, except that it can take a great deal more time out of your day to have to read something that somebody wrote, rather than to simply listen to them sing a few bars of “Unchained Melody.” The truth is, I have never found a kind enough way to tell someone they can’t write. And perhaps kindness is not the way to go. Perhaps some Simon Cowell bluntness should be called for. And the aforementioned Mr. Ellison has certainly been known for that. But even he stopped teaching writers’ workshops because, as he put it, he could no longer stand the pain he caused in the name of good writing.

It’s not that I don’t wish you all the success in the world. I do. Really. There isn’t enough good writing out there, and I would love to see more, because I love to read good writing myself. But I don’t want to read yours. Not until it has been published. And even then, I don’t want to tell you what I think of it. There are writers that I have known for years, professionals whom I consider friends, to whom I will not give my opinion of their writing. (Assuming, of course, they asked, which they are far too well-mannered to do. Either that, or they simply don’t give a damn about my opinion. Probably a combination of both.) So no, I don’t want to read your memoirs, or your novel, or your wonderful short story, because I don’t want to disappoint you, or upset you, or make you angry, or damage your fragile ego. And, ultimately, because my opinion doesn’t really matter.

As writer Robert Asprin once said, “The only person whose opinion (about your writing) matters is the one who can sign a check and send it to you.”
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Published on October 25, 2015 15:54
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message 1: by Just (new)

Just Josh Mr. Hawke, I write this comment, not to bolster my own ego, but to give hope to you, and others. No, I do not want you to critique my MS. No I don't give a damn about your opinion. I do however, give a damn about the opinion of those in my closed writing group. They are not all be trusted for sure, but they tell me when they see crap.

Like you, I am a writer. I MUST do what I do. The first short story I finished in high school caused students, teachers, and random strangers in bars to weep. Looking back, it was a steaming pile of crap. This realization gives me hope. And if you are keen, as I know you to be; you understand why. For those yet to plow the journey, I will explain. I have talent, and like you said but did not emphasize, talent is only the beginning. Skill is required. I gain skill. Gaining skill is a huge part of every day I live. I do not expect an invite from the New York Philharmonic until every note resounds in key and in time.

Those who beta read for me; don't give me validation. Show me the crap I missed, tell me you hated it, tell me my grammar sucks, tell me I lost you, you don't care, something doesn't make sense, but for god's sake tell me the TRUTH! I will not claim my writing is great. I do claim I have the right mindset for it.

And Mr. Hawke, I respect your descision to recuse yourself from those seething masses AND those such as I. But please sir, take heart, great writing shall come. A few of us know what we must do and we are doing it.


message 2: by Just (new)

Just Josh I suppose I'm not really approachable enough for people to ask me as much. I have dealt with it from the opposit standpoint though- of asking someone who refuses to show me what's not working. Like I said, I respect your position and I can imagine the burden of such.


message 3: by Briane (new)

Briane Kelly Can everyone write? Well, technically yes. Just like everyone can perform brain surgery. Now, performing brain surgery and having the victim, uh, patient, SURVIVE... that's different. Just as writing something GOOD is.

Writing clubs? Why not? I have done a little writing, amateur, as in for the love of the art. Do I enjoy it? Yes. Do I try to improve? Sure I do. Do I ever hope to sell? No I don't. Some of the amateur writers are much better than the average person. And if I played golf to a 4 handicap, I would be better than any of my friends, and much better than the average golfer. And about 10 strokes a round off the Tour pros.

Simon, i crossed paths with you a few years ago on Amazon, when they had the little chat links. I enjoyed it, and wish you were still publishing. Best wishes


message 4: by Treadstone71 (last edited Oct 19, 2020 10:57PM) (new)

Treadstone71 Interesting. I crossed paths with you a few decades ago on US Snail Mail. I sent you a letter via your publisher and to my honest - and pleasant - surprise, you actually took the time to respond.

If memory serves correctly, in said letter I do believe I called you a bastard, as I was rather up in arms at that moment over the untimely demise of one Lucas Priest. :-)

With some time (ironically) and some perspective, I have come to see that of all the main characters in the Time Wars series, despite being the initial protagonist, Lucas was also the least developed in terms of depth or character arch - I now see his leave of absence as a way to at least provide him with some additional capabilities the other characters don't have, if not actual character depth.

At any rate, the Time Wars series (along with your Dark Sun and Birthright offerings) are some of my favorite early adult memories. I'm glad you're doing well and returning to writing.

Daniel


message 5: by Monur B. (new)

Monur B. Just shut your drivel up, you self-appointed writer.
I mean who are you? Are you even known locally?
You think of yourself a lesser deity of some kind?
What's the deal with you man? If you think you can't help anybody just redirect them to a publisher.
Why bothering writing a so long a text, justifiying your course of action towards some naive person who wants your opinion?
Oh i get it. Arrogance.
Dude, just tell the solemn and plain truth like, "I hate reading the stuff you sent me."
Don't publish a badly written message polluted with famous writer names and words with full uppercase letters.


message 6: by Jeperel (new)

Jeperel Simon, i know this is not related to this article. I would have rather connected with you some other way. But i had a question about some fiction you published in 95.

I speak of The Iron Throne, from the birthright series of novels. A tabletop setting ive had the extreme pleasure of using on occasion, even now.

But while reading it, i cannot help but notice the parallels between this work and that of GRRMs Game of Thrones published a year later.

I understand that authors read other authors, gain some inspiration for a particular character, or a narrative arc that could benefit. This is, again, something i do regularly in tabletopping.

But many of the elements seem a bit on the nose. Many parts of the dialogue and certain narrative structures seem.. to similar. They pop out at me. This is of course my personal opinion.

Do you have any insight on this? (I understand if youd prefer a less public venue for any followup.)

By the way, super enjoying the book. Excited to continue on with War next. Hope this finds you well and in good health. I wish you all the best.


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