So about goodreads and indignation

No I'm not being disingenuous. I really don't get the rules. see note below. When I wrote that, I hadn't been thinking about the topic for more than five minutes. Now I have and duh. I remember my one and only rule.

Here's a review:
redacted [because it breaks goodreads policy, I think, maybe, but also perhaps people's feelings were hurt and isn't that ironic.

Whoa, calm down. I get being offended by something other people don't understand. I mean that an article about the topic about the genuine sorrow of butthurt would create butthurt.]
[removed because of derp factor]

I get that the reviewer is allowed to have an opinion--but why can't J the Punkin [name changed to protect me.]? Is it because he's [a few names removed.] on the thread attached to the review? Is that why he gets in trouble for commenting?

The reviewer is making his comments on a book on that book's thread. So why is that any better -- or less worthy of scorn--than J's comments? Because goodreads is set up that way?

People seem very possessive of review threads, as if they are building a house and anyone who disagrees with them are unwanted visitors. It's a personal space.

If someone finds something in a review objectionable, should he start a new thread? Keep it to himself? Why should he keep quiet except to avoid trouble--and is that reason enough? Or should he just say what he wants and move along and not engage?

I seriously don't know how to approach things I suspect are hurtful on goodreads--laughing at an author (not a book) sometimes goes way, way too far but I'm not going to win friends or influence people if I say something. I'll get the focus turned on me.

On the other hand, I know it hurts.

All the "well, he put the work out there, he should live with it" justifications in the world do not erase that fact: It. Hurts. Pain is real. Perhaps it's butthurty hurt, but there's actual pain.

Do I click past? Do I say something because I know the author is probably reading the reviews (particularly a new author) and it's probably comforting to see someone acknowledge your reality?

Yes, as author you grow used to it and the stomach-churning response to awful reviews eventually turns into a few minutes of ick.

Eventually.

But at first the whole thing can feel fairly devastating, and maybe some kind of support would ease that. If I can't change a reader's mind about writing reviews that are mockery--and god knows I won't--should I dive in to say something anyway? should I do it the way Jason does?

I don't, ever, because I'm an author and no one wants to see authors babbling about this stuff on reviews--even if it's not their book. I get that. But sometimes, I can just feel the pain and I'm not sure a non-author would.

Maybe not that review but some others. . . is saying "hey, you're being mean and hurting someone for no good reason" Is it worth hurting my own sales?

A private note is probably called for, I suppose. I wonder if Hallmark has a card for that.

The basic message I see on author loops is always the same:

"Your work got torn to shreds and you were called a hack. You'll get past this to write again. In the meantime, stay the hell off goodreads and keep your mouth shut."

Some comfort....no actually, it really is.

edited to add: I've read this a few times now, mostly trying to get all the names out along with anything remotely tetchy/mean out, although I might have added some of that because now I wonder why people paid any attention to it. Nothing remotely new in there. "Authors are people." with the follow up of "Okay but maybe it's best to move along, authors." I was sad when I wrote it so there's real emotion in it, but so what. My posts about about chickens...those are worth reposts.
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Published on June 15, 2014 18:10 Tags: clueless, goodreads-culture
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Jenn (One of Many, We are Legion) Ahahaha. I think it's safe to say Kate's blog post has been completely hijacked.

:-D


TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ this julio is the best julio wrote: "I've stolen a lot more than that, beloved.

*tucks tinanicole's heart into back pocket of extremely tight jeans*"



What heart?

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message 103: by Kate (last edited Jun 16, 2014 07:02PM) (new)

Kate Jennifer wrote: "Ahahaha. I think it's safe to say Kate's blog post has been completely hijacked.

:-D"


and it's safe to say that Kate's grateful for that. Julio's happy gay Boss Bus--that's worth obsessing about.

ETA BENDY boss bus.


TinaNicole ☠ Le Book Nikita ☠ ThreeRs (Got Logic?) wrote: "But what if her heart grows three sizes tomorrow?..."

Or Julio's ass does?

Stay away from the curry.

YOU'LL SQUISH MY HEART.


message 105: by Sadie (new)

Sadie Forsythe Well, some of us already know he's drunk, fat and envied. So, a tight ass x3, probably won't hurt his street cred any.


message 106: by Julio (new)

Julio Genao don't be jelezzzz


message 107: by E (new)

E ThreeRs (Got Logic?) wrote: " Yes, because authors are the only people who have ever put effort into something and had it go unappreciated. Authors are the only ones who've ever been told they failed to accomplish what they set out to do...."

Standing ovation to this whole comment. I used to think I was being mean or going crazy ("Are the books really that bad?? Am I being fucked up for calling out all the editing errors?") until I realized exactly what you said here. You just put my thoughts into words, so thank you for that.


message 108: by Alexandra (last edited Jun 17, 2014 05:48AM) (new)

Alexandra Erika wrote: "ThreeRs (Got Logic?) wrote: " Yes, because authors are the only people who have ever put effort into something and had it go unappreciated. Authors are the only ones who've ever been told they fail..."

I don't tend to try many indie books, and I know in the past years it's been increasingly hard for me to find good books, and much more likely to be mislead by glowing reviews.

It used to be that I never quit a book I started, now I do all the time. And I'm not even all that picky, I just want a book that is enjoyable and interesting, with a MC I can relate to on some level. I'm even ok with just "ok".

But now it seems the market is flooded with mediocre books that can't hold interest - for me anyway. And it really gets old to waste money on books that turn out to be snoozers, or worse.

On top of that is the unfortunate propensity of a few authors wanting to hinder the ability of readers to tell other readers what they honestly thought.


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