Sir Thomas Bertram

This is my final post for my series on the characters of Mansfield Park, which I explored in depth while writing my novel, Fanny, a Mansfield Park Story .

I have decided to end this series as Austen ends the novel, on Sir Thomas Bertram. Of all the characters in Mansfield Park, it is the unlikeliest, the paternal figure, who learns and grows the most, and consequently, in whose point of view almost the entirety of the final chapter is given.

When we first meet Sir Thomas we learn he was "captivated" by a Miss Maria Ward of only seven thousand pounds. He then induces his friend, Mr. Norris to marry his wife's sister, by giving him the living at Mansfield Parsonage. We learn a lot about him in the very first chapter. He wants to help his wife's sister's family. He wants to do what's right. He's a principled man. He's willing to invite one of her numerous children to live in his home. But he doesn't want her marrying either of his sons and he wants to make sure a distinction is maintained between his niece and his daughters.

And we soon learn what kind of daughters they are: selfish, vain, shallow, and sometimes even cruel. Sir Thomas does not have an active role in raising them. Maybe in that time and place he shouldn't have, but he knew what kind of person his wife was; he knew she wasn't doing anything and he let Mrs. Norris fill the void, and fill his daughters' heads with flattery, self-importance, and a sense of superiority.

Sir Thomas was surprised to find out his sister-in-law who had pushed for the adoption does not intend to bring their neice into her own home and when Mr. Norris dies, Sir Thomas is again caught by surprise. Sure, he's willing to keep Fanny on, but he had been hoping "to be relieved from the expense of her support, and the obligation of her future provision."

He travels to Antigua soon after, just as his daughters are at the "interesting" age of entering the marriage market. A lot happens in his absence, including his daughter's engagement. And when he returns and discovers the kind of man Maria is engaged to, he offers her an out, but is actually relieved she doesn't take it. We learn she is motivated at least in part by the desire to get out of her father's house. Later, her sister Julia has the same motivation for her elopement with Yates.

But before that, Fanny receives an unwelcome proposal of marriage and Sir Thomas treats her very differently than he treated Maria. True, he was not around to see all the things Fanny objects to in Mr. Crawford, but she has told him she doesn't like him and doesn't want to marry him. He demands an explanation from her, and not being satisfied, he berates her for her refusal and then punishes her by sending her to Portsmouth. I believe he is motivated by self interest here, by the desire to be relieved of Fanny's present and future support, as he was after the death of Mr. Norris.

So far Sir Thomas does seem to have a lot to learn. What does it take for him to learn it? His daughter Maria commits adultery and gets a divorce; his other daughter elopes with Mr. Yates. Even his son Tom comes down with a life threatening illness and Edmund gets his heart broken. All of his children have suffered. But we are told that Sir Thomas "was the longest to suffer" because he was "conscious of errors in his own conduct as a parent" and "the anguish arising from the conviction of his own errors in the education of his daughters was never to be entirely done away." He now "saw how ill he had judged" in raising his daughters and allowing them to be so much influenced by Mrs. Norris. He reflected over it "bitterly" and "wretchedly" concluding, "Here had been grievous mismanagement." A large part of the final chapter is dedicated to the explanation of Sir Thomas' realizations and regrets. Until, at last, "Sick of ambitious and mercenary connexions, prizing more and more the sterling good of principle and temper," he finally "realised a great acquisition in the promise of Fanny for a daughter." And as it turned out, "Fanny was indeed the daughter that he wanted."

It seems to me everyone thought Mansfield Park would improve Fanny, but in the end, Fanny improved Mansfield Park which is "just such a contrast ... as time is for ever producing between the plans and decisions of mortals, for their own instruction, and their neighbours' entertainment."

What are your thoughts on Sir Thomas?
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Published on September 04, 2021 12:14 Tags: mansfield-park-jane-austen
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message 51: by Mrs (new)

Mrs Benyishai And therfore Ann was smart not to marry Wentworth 8 years ago He could have turned out like Mr Price


message 52: by Beth-In-UK (new)

Beth-In-UK I think Mansfield Park does improve Fanny (though I certainly agree she improves it in return, but in a d ifferent way.)

We know that Fanny is not the same person she would have been had she gone on living in Portsmouth, like her sister Susan, in the chaotic and unregulated household her parents run (or rather, don't run!). When she is sent there by Sir Thomas (not actually as 'punishment' for declining Henry Crawford, but to specifically show Fanny how grim her life would have been had she not been adopted to MP). Fanny is shocked and dismayed. The chaotic, disordered household - not so much as the relative poverty compared to MP, but the disorder - appals her, and it is clear that she realises the value of MP in comparison.


message 53: by Beth-In-UK (new)

Beth-In-UK I believe he is motivated by self interest here, by the desire to be relieved of Fanny's present and future support, as he was after the death of Mr. Norris.

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I agree that may be a factor for Sir Thomas, but I think he genuinely feels that the marriage is an amazingly good opportunity for Fanny - he is thinking of her mostly, not himself. And it is a startlingly advantageous marriage. A penniless girl marrying a man with an estate of his own, a private income, a place in society - and charming and personable and intelligent (Unlike Maria's dim husband). He can't believe Fanny would turn down Henry.

It's very akin to Elizabeth Bennet turning down Mr Darcy first time around, in fact, far less understandable, as Elizabeth does have a good reason for rejecting Mr Darcy, ie, he's ruined Jane's happiness, and insulted her family. By contrast Henry Crawford has done absoltuely nothing wrong at all (unless you count him having planned, out of pique, to make Fanny fall in love with him - which she hasn't anyway.)

Outwardly, there isn't anything to condemn Henry Crawford as a husband for Fanny other than that (a) he isn't Edmund and (b) his morality is not as sound as Fanny's.

So I do see why Sir Thomas is so disbelieving and dismayed that Fanny is turning down such an offer of marriage.


message 54: by Amelia (new)

Amelia Logan Beth, but Mr. Crawford did do something -- he made both Bertram sisters in love with him and lured them into a rivalry with each other. Maria actually expected him to propose but he just left after all those marked attentions. Of course, Sir Thomas knows none of this and Fanny doesn't tell him. And I agree, he did have Fanny's interest at heart as well as her family's but I think self interest was also part of his motivation.


message 55: by Beth-In-UK (new)

Beth-In-UK Yes, very true. But ....did he cross the line between 'acceptable' flirtation with Maria/Julia, or was it their own fault they fell for him?

It's interesting, and perhaps revealing, that neither of Maria/Julia's brothers warned their sisters not to get their hopes up too much, or, indeed, warned Henry that he was starting to cross a line and leading to 'expectations'??

It is, perhaps, akin to Wentworth flirting with Louisa Musgrave - did he cross the line into creating expectations?

In reverse, of course, we have Jane Bennet NOT showing her feelings 'sufficiently' for Mr Bingley to believe his admiration was being returned, or, of course, that he was being sufficiently admiring to encourage her to think he DID want to marry her.

I think it shows how tricky the whole flirtation/attention/courtship business was in those days.


message 56: by Amelia (new)

Amelia Logan Beth,

Yes it seems very tricky!

I think everyone was at fault in the Maria/Julia/Henry situation. He was purposely leading them on and they were both playing along, each expecting him to fall in love with her. Tom and Edmund were too wrapped up in their own obsessions (the play for Tom and Mary Crawford for Edmund) to even notice what was going on with their sisters and Henry. Fanny did try to point it out to Edmund, but he blew her off.

Wentworth found out he crossed the line when he learned others expected him to marry Louisa. The same thing happened with Bingley -- Darcy realized there was an expectation when Sir William Lucas hinted at it. This expectation was formed in spite of Jane not showing her feelings so it must have been attributable to Bingley's attentions.


message 57: by Beth-In-UK (new)

Beth-In-UK With Bingley, I think the expectation was primarily formed by Mrs Bennet telling everyone it was a done deal!

Vulgar (and unwise) yes, but, on the other hand, perhaps she was being cunning, not merely optimistic. If she put it about that Bingley was besotted, and 'everyone' was expecting a proposal any day now, this might very well have got back to Bingley who might therefore be almost 'socially blackmailed' into HAVING to propose (much as Wentworth felt he would have HAD to propose to Louisa.)

Mrs B isn't quite locking the two in a room together and then bursting in to find them 'compromised' but it is possibly along those lines. In her mitigation, I think she genuinely wants Bingley to propose because Jane is in love with him, and Jane's mum wants her to be happy (and happily married to a man with five thousand pounds a year of course!)


message 58: by Amelia (new)

Amelia Logan Beth-In-UK ...

Sure, Mrs. B talked about it a lot but I think people based their views and expectations on what they saw. Also, they knew her, so they're not just going to go by what she says.


message 59: by Beth-In-UK (new)

Beth-In-UK The sensible folk, yes, but maybe others believed her? Unmarried girls had to be so careful of what was said about them. Mrs Bennet going on about how Jane was 'of course' going to become Mrs Bingley could have gone either way maybe - that everyone believed it would happen, or that, when the Bingley's went away, that therefore Jane had been 'spurned' or even possibly 'jilted' and then that would have been worse for her than had no one ever thought Bingley keen on her in the first place.


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