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Horror Sleaze Trash: Prose in Poor Taste
Horror Sleaze Trash: Prose in Poor Taste has finally arrived!This anthology includes over seventy pieces of short and flash fiction submitted to Horror, Sleaze and Trash over the years, from inception to this present day. There is no shortage of great talent to be found between these covers (50+ authors!), and it was my distinct privilege to compile it together.
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Apparently someone thought this worth mentioning.
“It is very difficult to be a hero without an audience, although, in a sense, we are each the hero of a peculiar, half-ruined film called our life.”
Sebastian Barry
It would be rude to call it "sad-ass doublespeak," so suffice to say that there have been no heroes for a few lifetimes already; the anti-hero at the peak.
In fairness, maybe Barry said this when he was but a tyke.
“It is very difficult to be a hero without an audience, although, in a sense, we are each the hero of a peculiar, half-ruined film called our life.”
Sebastian Barry
It would be rude to call it "sad-ass doublespeak," so suffice to say that there have been no heroes for a few lifetimes already; the anti-hero at the peak.
In fairness, maybe Barry said this when he was but a tyke.
MarioD wrote: "Apparently someone thought this worth mentioning."Apparently someone thought this worth mentioning mentioning.
Yes indeed, Mr. Derrida, Jr.
On issues of some substance, I've decided not to knock Bizarro and Millennials anymore. I mean nobody pays any attention to them, so why the hell should I of all people? In the case of Bizarro it's also not right to make fun of the dead; especially the stillborn. In the case of the Millennials that was everyone's wishful thinking, but alas.
So, does a tree falling in the woods make any noise, Mr. Barry?
You bet your fucking ass. Just ask an animal. These human beings think they're so important, while the world would be fine if not better without them.
On issues of some substance, I've decided not to knock Bizarro and Millennials anymore. I mean nobody pays any attention to them, so why the hell should I of all people? In the case of Bizarro it's also not right to make fun of the dead; especially the stillborn. In the case of the Millennials that was everyone's wishful thinking, but alas.
So, does a tree falling in the woods make any noise, Mr. Barry?
You bet your fucking ass. Just ask an animal. These human beings think they're so important, while the world would be fine if not better without them.
MarioD wrote: "I've decided not to knock Bizarro and Millennials anymore."Can a frog choose not to croak? Can the sun choose not to shine?
Arthur wrote; "Can a frog choose not to croak? Can the sun choose not to shine?"
Ask the frog and the sun. How the fuck am I supposed to know?
Ask the frog and the sun. How the fuck am I supposed to know?
MarioD wrote: "How the fuck am I supposed to know?"What, you don't know everything worth knowing all of a sudden?
Arthur wrote; "What, you don't know everything worth knowing all of a sudden?"
It was just an answer convenient at that moment. No, I still consider myself your equal.
Flip flopping meta with real can keep things going for an eternity.
The more I get familiar with this meta-real stuff, the better Leyner looks. But, its small arena (like me) whereas DFW dazzled the big one.
Ah, just deleted the song.
Just because these considerations are far from new, here's one some call the best singer of all time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph7q-...
It was just an answer convenient at that moment. No, I still consider myself your equal.
Flip flopping meta with real can keep things going for an eternity.
The more I get familiar with this meta-real stuff, the better Leyner looks. But, its small arena (like me) whereas DFW dazzled the big one.
Ah, just deleted the song.
Just because these considerations are far from new, here's one some call the best singer of all time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph7q-...
Arthur wrote; "What, you don't know everything worth knowing all of a sudden?"
A more serious answer would be that there isn't all that much worth knowing. Most anybody other than the most retarded can do it. The problem seems to me to be not seeing the forest for the trees.
I've told you that where I grew up was half black. Some of them lived like they do in the poorest parts of the south. One guy was 16 years old and still in the second grade. But, I noticed that these people could tell you "what it is" better than the whites.
Beyond that undisturbed common sense, all you have to do is learn about 6 months worth of technicalities which lead to a good job.
So, WTF else is worth knowing?
A more serious answer would be that there isn't all that much worth knowing. Most anybody other than the most retarded can do it. The problem seems to me to be not seeing the forest for the trees.
I've told you that where I grew up was half black. Some of them lived like they do in the poorest parts of the south. One guy was 16 years old and still in the second grade. But, I noticed that these people could tell you "what it is" better than the whites.
Beyond that undisturbed common sense, all you have to do is learn about 6 months worth of technicalities which lead to a good job.
So, WTF else is worth knowing?
Okay, up front apologies to anyone who gets offended. I found this hilarious. For the benefit of the short piece of G2 I wasn't priorly going to post here, I did some research on 12 step programs and innocently and surprisingly found this one; "Homosexuals Anonymous, group of people using a modified version of the twelve-steps to help each other to live an ex-gay lifestyle."
Since I know that AA's motto is "don't drink today" I couldn't help but wonder what the motto of HA would be. "Don't ......................... today" makes logical sense, but can anyone fill in the blank?
Since I know that AA's motto is "don't drink today" I couldn't help but wonder what the motto of HA would be. "Don't ......................... today" makes logical sense, but can anyone fill in the blank?
Just to infer my true innocence.
Genevieve woke for the second time that day and for the second time firmly decided that she was going. She firmly and rudely pressed the plastic thing’s half forbidden button twice, the first intended as a short and transitory nasty tease; the second intended as a turn off; precisely what the writers of the instruction manuals said that the zero and one repository didn’t want. If ever there was a subtle producer of suicidal thoughts in the machine that was it. But, for their mental well-being the monsters had two twelve step support groups at their disposal. Computer Gaming Addicts Anonymous (CGAA) seemed to have a more serious and committed approach than On Line Gamers Anonymous (OLGA), but names can be misleading.
For the second time Genevieve had also decided that she would first look for a partner. Clement was no doubt occupied now, so she focussed on which of Pacific Lane’s residents were
Genevieve woke for the second time that day and for the second time firmly decided that she was going. She firmly and rudely pressed the plastic thing’s half forbidden button twice, the first intended as a short and transitory nasty tease; the second intended as a turn off; precisely what the writers of the instruction manuals said that the zero and one repository didn’t want. If ever there was a subtle producer of suicidal thoughts in the machine that was it. But, for their mental well-being the monsters had two twelve step support groups at their disposal. Computer Gaming Addicts Anonymous (CGAA) seemed to have a more serious and committed approach than On Line Gamers Anonymous (OLGA), but names can be misleading.
For the second time Genevieve had also decided that she would first look for a partner. Clement was no doubt occupied now, so she focussed on which of Pacific Lane’s residents were
Somebody must have eaten the original; but we still got Patti.
"And I ain't gonna copy you." Sumthin in there about the sun too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV3EU...
"And I ain't gonna copy you." Sumthin in there about the sun too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV3EU...
Had to. They're encouraging. If they can find an audience anyone can except .............................
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbVgK...
They're from Finland. Does anyone from there know if these people are still allowed to reproduce?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbVgK...
They're from Finland. Does anyone from there know if these people are still allowed to reproduce?
"Just another burden of the welfare state," or Arthur Graham.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eClA...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eClA...
On #50 Arthur wrote; "For someone with your grasp of spelling/punctuation, I'm surprised you don't hold us editors and our functions in higher esteem. "
Excuse my oversight. I must have been having too good a time with the "distinct privilege to compile it together."
Excuse my oversight. I must have been having too good a time with the "distinct privilege to compile it together."
MarioD wrote: "I did some research on 12 step programs and innocently and surprisingly found this one; "Homosexuals Anonymous."Uh-huh...
IDK. Yesterday I kept finding weird stuff. It made me wonder if there was some kind of implied "cure" for faggotry; like alcohol and narcotics, and figured it might be of GR interest.
More importantly I found great use in that concept of "compiling it together." I've wasted so much time trying to compile it apart.
More importantly I found great use in that concept of "compiling it together." I've wasted so much time trying to compile it apart.
Been noticing a general commentary from GR reviewers. They don't generally admit it openly, but when you read their verbage they often make references to something like a need or wish to get on to the next one; even with books they mildly like.
I guess this shouldn't be too surprising in that they compete through numbers; not words. What it does seem to suggest for writers who crave GR reviews is that it would be best not to bother with any kind of precision with words, as even if well done, it won't be noticed; and to use words which will be noticed under a scanning operation, like "fire raged" or "horsey galloped." Keep it moving.
Hindsight is always great; and I have no idea how it is doing; but wonder if this 300 page "giant" would get more reviewer attention as three 100 pagers. Even using sales as the criterion, my dumbass 50 pagers for $.99 do better than ones I think better at $2.99 for 220 pages.
I guess this shouldn't be too surprising in that they compete through numbers; not words. What it does seem to suggest for writers who crave GR reviews is that it would be best not to bother with any kind of precision with words, as even if well done, it won't be noticed; and to use words which will be noticed under a scanning operation, like "fire raged" or "horsey galloped." Keep it moving.
Hindsight is always great; and I have no idea how it is doing; but wonder if this 300 page "giant" would get more reviewer attention as three 100 pagers. Even using sales as the criterion, my dumbass 50 pagers for $.99 do better than ones I think better at $2.99 for 220 pages.
MarioD wrote: "IDK. Yesterday I kept finding weird stuff."Hey, you don't even wanna see my browser history...
MarioD wrote: "wonder if the 300 page "giant" would get more reviewer attention as three 100 pagers"Would probably get even more as ten 30 pagers, if experience is any guide, but it just feels good producing a full-length book every now and then.
Arthur wrote: "MarioD wrote: "IDK. Yesterday I kept finding weird stuff."
Hey, you don't even wanna see my browser history..."
IDK. If you posted it here I'd certainly take a look and maybe even do some investigating. I also wouldn't be surprised if that blog post became the one with the most views and likes ever.
Gotta stop it; always thinking about the marketing shit.
Hey, you don't even wanna see my browser history..."
IDK. If you posted it here I'd certainly take a look and maybe even do some investigating. I also wouldn't be surprised if that blog post became the one with the most views and likes ever.
Gotta stop it; always thinking about the marketing shit.
Uh-huh may be right. Because there were some which appeared strange to me, I just re-Wikied "List if 12 Step Programs" and guess what? Homosexuals Ananymous is not there. So I'll have to conclude one of 3 things;
1) My mind has taken me in a strange direction.
2) People saw my post; agreed with the inference; and had it removed from the list.
3) The group disbanded sometime during the last 24 hours.
2) and 3) don't seem very likely. Anyway, I've attached a list some might find amusing. Some of those starting with the letter "S" may be good places to meet friendly people.
AA – Alcoholics Anonymous
ACA – Adult Children of Alcoholics
Al-Anon/Alateen, for friends and families of alcoholics
CA – Cocaine Anonymous
CGAA – Computer Gaming Addicts Anonymous
CLA – Clutterers Anonymous
CMA – Crystal Meth Anonymous
Co-Anon, for friends and family of addicts
CoDA – Co-Dependents Anonymous, for people working to end patterns of dysfunctional relationships and develop functional and healthy relationships
COSA – an auxiliary group of Sex Addicts Anonymous
COSLAA – CoSex and Love Addicts Anonymous
DA – Debtors Anonymous
EA – Emotions Anonymous, for recovery from mental and emotional illness
FA – Families Anonymous, for relatives and friends of addicts
FA – Food Addicts in Recovery Anonymous
FAA – Food Addicts Anonymous
GA – Gamblers Anonymous
Gam-Anon/Gam-A-Teen, for friends and family members of problem gamblers
HA – Heroin Anonymous
MA – Marijuana Anonymous
NA – Narcotics Anonymous
N/A – Neurotics Anonymous, for recovery from mental and emotional illness
Nar-Anon, for friends and family members of addicts
NicA – Nicotine Anonymous
OA – Overeaters Anonymous
OLGA – Online Gamers Anonymous
PA – Pills Anonymous, for recovery from prescription pill addiction.
SA – Sexaholics Anonymous
SA – Smokers Anonymous
SAA – Sex Addicts Anonymous
SCA – Sexual Compulsives Anonymous
SIA – Survivors of Incest Anonymous
SLAA – Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous
SRA – Sexual Recovery Anonymous
UA – Underearners Anonymous
WA – Workaholics Anonymous
1) My mind has taken me in a strange direction.
2) People saw my post; agreed with the inference; and had it removed from the list.
3) The group disbanded sometime during the last 24 hours.
2) and 3) don't seem very likely. Anyway, I've attached a list some might find amusing. Some of those starting with the letter "S" may be good places to meet friendly people.
AA – Alcoholics Anonymous
ACA – Adult Children of Alcoholics
Al-Anon/Alateen, for friends and families of alcoholics
CA – Cocaine Anonymous
CGAA – Computer Gaming Addicts Anonymous
CLA – Clutterers Anonymous
CMA – Crystal Meth Anonymous
Co-Anon, for friends and family of addicts
CoDA – Co-Dependents Anonymous, for people working to end patterns of dysfunctional relationships and develop functional and healthy relationships
COSA – an auxiliary group of Sex Addicts Anonymous
COSLAA – CoSex and Love Addicts Anonymous
DA – Debtors Anonymous
EA – Emotions Anonymous, for recovery from mental and emotional illness
FA – Families Anonymous, for relatives and friends of addicts
FA – Food Addicts in Recovery Anonymous
FAA – Food Addicts Anonymous
GA – Gamblers Anonymous
Gam-Anon/Gam-A-Teen, for friends and family members of problem gamblers
HA – Heroin Anonymous
MA – Marijuana Anonymous
NA – Narcotics Anonymous
N/A – Neurotics Anonymous, for recovery from mental and emotional illness
Nar-Anon, for friends and family members of addicts
NicA – Nicotine Anonymous
OA – Overeaters Anonymous
OLGA – Online Gamers Anonymous
PA – Pills Anonymous, for recovery from prescription pill addiction.
SA – Sexaholics Anonymous
SA – Smokers Anonymous
SAA – Sex Addicts Anonymous
SCA – Sexual Compulsives Anonymous
SIA – Survivors of Incest Anonymous
SLAA – Sex and Love Addicts Anonymous
SRA – Sexual Recovery Anonymous
UA – Underearners Anonymous
WA – Workaholics Anonymous
MarioD wrote: "SAA – Sex Addicts Anonymous"I should probably start going to meetings, frankly, but knowing me, I'd just wind up knocking folks off the wagon.
Arthur wrote; "I should probably start going to meetings, frankly, but knowing me, I'd just wind up knocking folks off the wagon. "
Yeah, but there's really no reason for guilt over it. Unless you're some kind of god, you really can't knock anyone off who didn't want to be knocked off.
My guess is that the biggest risk would be that you'd meet a bunch of Goodreaders, and they will be embarrassed only because they don't look anything like their posted pictures. Then you'll have to convince them that you're more interested in the personality; and in my limited experience there is no way to avoid that turning to completely rancid shit.
Yeah, but there's really no reason for guilt over it. Unless you're some kind of god, you really can't knock anyone off who didn't want to be knocked off.
My guess is that the biggest risk would be that you'd meet a bunch of Goodreaders, and they will be embarrassed only because they don't look anything like their posted pictures. Then you'll have to convince them that you're more interested in the personality; and in my limited experience there is no way to avoid that turning to completely rancid shit.
Inane quote of the day.
“Fascists always attack minorities,
Which is an irony,
'Cos fascists are a minority.”
Harry Whitewolf
No more. Trump brought them out of the closet.
“Fascists always attack minorities,
Which is an irony,
'Cos fascists are a minority.”
Harry Whitewolf
No more. Trump brought them out of the closet.
Have been editing a lot of the day and to post any would require too much context. Been thinking about what all writers think about sometimes. What is "good" writing? Please don't anybody punch me as I'm not going to go on for long with this.
However, when I reverse the question and wonder what bad writing is, I don't get too many examples. Most communicate effectively, and beyond that things get very judgemental. it might be a big seller, but that entails getting your name known. It might be technical, but that consideration could easily result in glorifying a book which is only easily decipherable to a few; and the converse, which is too often overlooked. It might be a low seller which gets good arms length reviews. It may be a lot of things. But if there is any point it is that it is undefinable (except the few worst) and a matter of having it seen by people who like that sort of thing.
So, I don't know why anyone thinks about it. But, like me today, they do. And it is a complete waste of time. Within some small tweaking tolerance, you're going to write what you're going to write. If you interpret those words logically; they mean something you're not supposed to say; "If you don't like it, fuck you."
However, when I reverse the question and wonder what bad writing is, I don't get too many examples. Most communicate effectively, and beyond that things get very judgemental. it might be a big seller, but that entails getting your name known. It might be technical, but that consideration could easily result in glorifying a book which is only easily decipherable to a few; and the converse, which is too often overlooked. It might be a low seller which gets good arms length reviews. It may be a lot of things. But if there is any point it is that it is undefinable (except the few worst) and a matter of having it seen by people who like that sort of thing.
So, I don't know why anyone thinks about it. But, like me today, they do. And it is a complete waste of time. Within some small tweaking tolerance, you're going to write what you're going to write. If you interpret those words logically; they mean something you're not supposed to say; "If you don't like it, fuck you."
This review shows what I've been talking about. It's not bad, but it does seem to indicate many reviewers attitudes and preferences; those being short and cheap.
"Rating: 3* of five
It was a fun ride, but it went on too long and lost its humorous momentum. The idea of Dr. Newton Barlow, disgraced scientist, as the unhappy medium was a great set-up, but the set-up bits of the book were longer than necessary. This would be a hoot for a TV series idea! Not likely to pick up vol. 2 unless it's free or 99¢."
Too long; read so many times. But the comment about "free or $.99" directly strikes a chord I thought I was indirectly detecting.
If I didn't like a book, I wouldn't get the sequel no matter the price. Like, "I'll tolerate crap if I can get it free or cheap." DUH?
But, this is what writers who crave reviews are dealing with.
"Rating: 3* of five
It was a fun ride, but it went on too long and lost its humorous momentum. The idea of Dr. Newton Barlow, disgraced scientist, as the unhappy medium was a great set-up, but the set-up bits of the book were longer than necessary. This would be a hoot for a TV series idea! Not likely to pick up vol. 2 unless it's free or 99¢."
Too long; read so many times. But the comment about "free or $.99" directly strikes a chord I thought I was indirectly detecting.
If I didn't like a book, I wouldn't get the sequel no matter the price. Like, "I'll tolerate crap if I can get it free or cheap." DUH?
But, this is what writers who crave reviews are dealing with.
MarioD wrote: "If I didn't like a book, I wouldn't get the sequel no matter the price. Like, "I'll tolerate crap if I can get it free or cheap." DUH?"I think I see your point, but don't we all keep a sliding scale when it comes to products/prices, expecting more for more and less for less?
In the interest of cheap brevity, below find a conversation which could have happened right here. Each sentence may also be a book title, so I'm hopeful that it gets lots of GR attention.
"Mo po Scrawlotti fo yo."
"Oldest muthaflippa at Bugga Kween."
"Leprosy face."
"Why'd his mama crave chimp dick?"
"Pity me; I need a score."
"No, I really am that much of a sap."
"Dicks taste just like pussies. Don't they?"
"I guess he's a homo."
"Mo po Scrawlotti fo yo."
"Oldest muthaflippa at Bugga Kween."
"Leprosy face."
"Why'd his mama crave chimp dick?"
"Pity me; I need a score."
"No, I really am that much of a sap."
"Dicks taste just like pussies. Don't they?"
"I guess he's a homo."
Arthur wrote; "But don't we all keep a sliding scale when it comes to products/prices, expecting more for more and less for less? "
Good point . Yes. I might be the odd one here, but I do that with some things; like gardeners, lawnmowers, lightbulbs, autos, stuff like that, kind of hard to fully define.
But when it comes to house, furniture, books, movies, maybe the aesthetics that are visibly there, I'll pay anything I can afford to get something I'll like. I'd never sit through a lousy movie just because it was on sale for $.49.
Now you got me curious. How about you?
Good point . Yes. I might be the odd one here, but I do that with some things; like gardeners, lawnmowers, lightbulbs, autos, stuff like that, kind of hard to fully define.
But when it comes to house, furniture, books, movies, maybe the aesthetics that are visibly there, I'll pay anything I can afford to get something I'll like. I'd never sit through a lousy movie just because it was on sale for $.49.
Now you got me curious. How about you?
KaseyS wrote: "I'd never sit through a lousy movie just because it was on sale for $.49. [...] How about you?"I probably wouldn't either, but if I did, I'd be a lot more pissed if it cost closer to $10 before the fucking popcorn.
Arthur wrote; "I probably wouldn't either, but if I did, I'd be a lot more pissed if it cost closer to $10 before the fucking popcorn."
Ha. That's addressing one of the things I'm still curious about in the book world. For me it's been the case that free or $.99 gets the bulk of my sales. This was one of the reasons I didn't want to go the free route until everyone else did. What is the taker/buyer expecting? Probably CRAP. I mean they pay $12.99 for a moderately selling, traditionally published e-book. Can it possibly be better? Yes, but not necessarily. Can it be 13 times better? Fuck no; unless it's a baseball book and the buyer has no interest in the subject. Yet, this "on sale" concept is what Bookbub, the only service with demonstrated (and very expensive) results, uses. So, I guess all of this suggests that an indie writer would do best to play into the lowered expectations indicated by price, and churn out uninspired or well thought out garbage.
IDK. As sometimes mentioned, books are pretty new to me; and the things I think I see appear to be contradictory to other forms of entertainment. I mean, it has never been worthwhile to make a slipshod movie; the true cult films came when double features were the norm. The rest are just a play for a small market.
Ha. That's addressing one of the things I'm still curious about in the book world. For me it's been the case that free or $.99 gets the bulk of my sales. This was one of the reasons I didn't want to go the free route until everyone else did. What is the taker/buyer expecting? Probably CRAP. I mean they pay $12.99 for a moderately selling, traditionally published e-book. Can it possibly be better? Yes, but not necessarily. Can it be 13 times better? Fuck no; unless it's a baseball book and the buyer has no interest in the subject. Yet, this "on sale" concept is what Bookbub, the only service with demonstrated (and very expensive) results, uses. So, I guess all of this suggests that an indie writer would do best to play into the lowered expectations indicated by price, and churn out uninspired or well thought out garbage.
IDK. As sometimes mentioned, books are pretty new to me; and the things I think I see appear to be contradictory to other forms of entertainment. I mean, it has never been worthwhile to make a slipshod movie; the true cult films came when double features were the norm. The rest are just a play for a small market.
Thought i'dput this part of G2. edited today and doesn't need background. I know that it's just not some people's cup of tea, but it's what I feel like doing. That's not really a "fuck you," it's just a recognition of differing interests. At this point the only things I'd rip are the minority of terrible writers, the po-mo, super self-concious asses who ought to be paying a psychologist to listen to their boring crap life, and those indirect sons of bitches who attempt to dance out of any direct statement.
For the next few days the weather was totally uncooperative. The warm fall showed its downside in a cloud, heat retaining humidity which produced an annoying off and on drizzle. It was just enough for Genevieve to conclude that her mission of finding Billy and Jack was not subject to any schedule or time limit; and that contrary to the way producers of legalese boilerplate put it; “Time was not of the essence.”
Each of the next few days she gave Pablo a morning “smart phone” call cancelling today; and making a tentative date for tomorrow. Pablo didn’t mind for a few reasons. He really never developed an appreciation for prolonged light rain. It was never anything worth speaking of at first. But, it had a way of accumulating on his head, and then would run down his neck and upper back, producing the most unpleasant of chilly feelings; even in the summer. Hats were of no help, only serving as a delay. Besides, his recent outward excursion had taken time away from his old friends; his books.
It was kind of unfair to those who had gotten him through his most difficult years. Now that he was an attractive labby bon vivant with females at his door and on the phone daily, he still had a memory and an appreciation of a quiet day with the ones who always had waited patiently on the shelf. He remembered that he had not visited with Winnie for some time.
Portion of original cover of A.A. Milne’s “WINNIE-THE-POOH;” public domain.
For the next few days the weather was totally uncooperative. The warm fall showed its downside in a cloud, heat retaining humidity which produced an annoying off and on drizzle. It was just enough for Genevieve to conclude that her mission of finding Billy and Jack was not subject to any schedule or time limit; and that contrary to the way producers of legalese boilerplate put it; “Time was not of the essence.”
Each of the next few days she gave Pablo a morning “smart phone” call cancelling today; and making a tentative date for tomorrow. Pablo didn’t mind for a few reasons. He really never developed an appreciation for prolonged light rain. It was never anything worth speaking of at first. But, it had a way of accumulating on his head, and then would run down his neck and upper back, producing the most unpleasant of chilly feelings; even in the summer. Hats were of no help, only serving as a delay. Besides, his recent outward excursion had taken time away from his old friends; his books.
It was kind of unfair to those who had gotten him through his most difficult years. Now that he was an attractive labby bon vivant with females at his door and on the phone daily, he still had a memory and an appreciation of a quiet day with the ones who always had waited patiently on the shelf. He remembered that he had not visited with Winnie for some time.
Portion of original cover of A.A. Milne’s “WINNIE-THE-POOH;” public domain.
The real problem with po-mo interpretations of books is not that they are necessarily wrong; but that they can never be proven to be right.
On a personal level I can honestly say that when I write, I'm always basing the characters on someone else, not me. It may be one of the reasons I enjoy DFW; because he is totally self centered, as he characterizes the post modern world. An interesting opposite. He said; "The funny thing about writing is that here you were this nerdy little kid going to the library, then you put your pen to paper and realize that you're saying; 'Look at me.Look at me. Look at me.'" Wheereas I say; "Here I sometimes was, this nedry little kid going to the library; and then I put my pen to paper and say; 'Look at you. Look at you. Look at you.'" His approach was better in that people do not want to look at themselves.
But, ostensibly back on topic; I recognize that if someone had a life sufficiently boring wherein they might read my fiction and make conclusions about who I am they may well be right. I think that there are little parts when I can't think of someone else who had been in a similar situation, but no more.
Okay, here's the shit. I could be wrong and based on what I recall of personal experience say that the interpreter is off the wall, and he may be. But it is more likely that my writing reflects billions of experiences and thoughts, 99% of which I don't remember. They probably come out unconciously and some astute interpreters may make conclusions which are right, but I find absurd because of the imperfect memory.
If there's any point, it is that this po-mo stuff may be entertainment for some people who need some; but it can never be confirmed as having any validity; and I perhaps cruelly cannot help but be amused by people who try to read anything other than the words in a book designed for entertainment.
Did more editing; and if you think this shit is stupid, you ought to see what I did to G2. The edit needs an edit.
It's fun and little else.
Ciao.
On a personal level I can honestly say that when I write, I'm always basing the characters on someone else, not me. It may be one of the reasons I enjoy DFW; because he is totally self centered, as he characterizes the post modern world. An interesting opposite. He said; "The funny thing about writing is that here you were this nerdy little kid going to the library, then you put your pen to paper and realize that you're saying; 'Look at me.Look at me. Look at me.'" Wheereas I say; "Here I sometimes was, this nedry little kid going to the library; and then I put my pen to paper and say; 'Look at you. Look at you. Look at you.'" His approach was better in that people do not want to look at themselves.
But, ostensibly back on topic; I recognize that if someone had a life sufficiently boring wherein they might read my fiction and make conclusions about who I am they may well be right. I think that there are little parts when I can't think of someone else who had been in a similar situation, but no more.
Okay, here's the shit. I could be wrong and based on what I recall of personal experience say that the interpreter is off the wall, and he may be. But it is more likely that my writing reflects billions of experiences and thoughts, 99% of which I don't remember. They probably come out unconciously and some astute interpreters may make conclusions which are right, but I find absurd because of the imperfect memory.
If there's any point, it is that this po-mo stuff may be entertainment for some people who need some; but it can never be confirmed as having any validity; and I perhaps cruelly cannot help but be amused by people who try to read anything other than the words in a book designed for entertainment.
Did more editing; and if you think this shit is stupid, you ought to see what I did to G2. The edit needs an edit.
It's fun and little else.
Ciao.
"Remember me to the one who lives there.
She was once a true love of mine."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BakW...
She was once a true love of mine."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BakW...
KaseyS wrote: "The real problem with po-mo interpretations of books is not that they are necessarily wrong; but that they can never be proven to be right."And how exactly is that any different from other interpretive methods? The only way they ever manage to "prove" anything is through their solipsism. If nothing else, postmodernism reveals the cracks in these theoretical frameworks, even as it admits to the obvious limitations of its own.
Ah, I guess that my idol Dylan half agreed with Arthur. He seems to have changed his mind later in the song; but that's only natural.
EXCERPTS FROM "GATES OF EDEN"
With a time-rusted compass blade
Aladdin and his lamp
Sits with Utopian hermit monks
Side saddle on the Golden Calf
And on their promises of paradise
You will not hear a laugh
All except inside the Gates of Eden
The kingdoms of experience
In the precious winds they rot
While paupers change possessions
Each one wishing for what the other has got
And the princess and the prince
Discuss what's real and what is not
It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden
EXCERPTS FROM "GATES OF EDEN"
With a time-rusted compass blade
Aladdin and his lamp
Sits with Utopian hermit monks
Side saddle on the Golden Calf
And on their promises of paradise
You will not hear a laugh
All except inside the Gates of Eden
The kingdoms of experience
In the precious winds they rot
While paupers change possessions
Each one wishing for what the other has got
And the princess and the prince
Discuss what's real and what is not
It doesn't matter inside the Gates of Eden
Arthur wrote; "And how exactly is that any different from other interpretive methods?"
I guess you are referring to "interpretive methods" of books, as areas like math and physics can be proven rather conclusively.
Earlier in that extrapolated quote I did say that a good interpreter could be right; meanung that it's possible for him to have a greater understanding of what the writer's is subliminally bringing to his writing. I didn't say that that possibility is anything more than a psychologist's attempt to understand something while utilizing a very flawed discipline. But, if you want to say that po-mo book analysis is a as good as that, no argument; though it seems a bit silly to say; "Shit's no more fucked up than the other shit. So, it's OK."
I don't think I stressed that the first time, as I just found it, especially given the high possibility of inacuracy, a subject that wouldn't interest me personally. Maybe its a genre that is just not for me. IDK. But, I can honestly say that when I've liked a book I've rarely researched the author personally.
I've said some of this before and I stick with it. "It's just a book." I think book people make a ridiculously big deal out of them; when the liklihood was that the intent was that the writer just wanted to make a few bucks, thought that it was entertaining, had nothing better to do, and maybe even had it ghosted.
Is he in some aspects of the book? Who knows and who cares? This is just the shit you do if you get a few grand and want to keep Charlie Rose from having dead air time. It's more fictional than the stupid fucking book.
I guess it can be humorous to those in on the joke, but ...............
I guess you are referring to "interpretive methods" of books, as areas like math and physics can be proven rather conclusively.
Earlier in that extrapolated quote I did say that a good interpreter could be right; meanung that it's possible for him to have a greater understanding of what the writer's is subliminally bringing to his writing. I didn't say that that possibility is anything more than a psychologist's attempt to understand something while utilizing a very flawed discipline. But, if you want to say that po-mo book analysis is a as good as that, no argument; though it seems a bit silly to say; "Shit's no more fucked up than the other shit. So, it's OK."
I don't think I stressed that the first time, as I just found it, especially given the high possibility of inacuracy, a subject that wouldn't interest me personally. Maybe its a genre that is just not for me. IDK. But, I can honestly say that when I've liked a book I've rarely researched the author personally.
I've said some of this before and I stick with it. "It's just a book." I think book people make a ridiculously big deal out of them; when the liklihood was that the intent was that the writer just wanted to make a few bucks, thought that it was entertaining, had nothing better to do, and maybe even had it ghosted.
Is he in some aspects of the book? Who knows and who cares? This is just the shit you do if you get a few grand and want to keep Charlie Rose from having dead air time. It's more fictional than the stupid fucking book.
I guess it can be humorous to those in on the joke, but ...............
I have no problem with stuff like "Pale Fire" and "IJ," which despite your disagreement DFW said was not po-mo. More significantly the highest source, Manny Rayner, classified it as science fiction.
But you know DFW was goofing on the concept, especially through Joelle Van Dyne. And not that that alone would make me dislike it, but it has a long ass dissertation instead of a definition, under which some classical books may be considered po-mo. Retarded.
Then they think they're smart in referring to some character or book I never heard of. Fuck them. I can quote Arthur Graham and they won't know their ass from their elbow about that either. And what's the big shit over putting in a character with the author's name. And I don't give a fuck about some asshole writer's description of writing a book. I'll want to sit through all of that shit as soon as I want to sit through the plumber's long ass story about how the pipes were installed.
But you know DFW was goofing on the concept, especially through Joelle Van Dyne. And not that that alone would make me dislike it, but it has a long ass dissertation instead of a definition, under which some classical books may be considered po-mo. Retarded.
Then they think they're smart in referring to some character or book I never heard of. Fuck them. I can quote Arthur Graham and they won't know their ass from their elbow about that either. And what's the big shit over putting in a character with the author's name. And I don't give a fuck about some asshole writer's description of writing a book. I'll want to sit through all of that shit as soon as I want to sit through the plumber's long ass story about how the pipes were installed.
Though I missed shark week, this report is more appropriate for this thread, even on a belated basis. This is real and further information may be obtained by googling "Shark Tank Cream." I think there might have been something subsequent using the unkind word; fraud.
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With the help of the sharks, the sisters completely re-branded their skin care product and are now able to launch globally!
Special Report on Shark Tank ‘Miracle' Anti Aging Cream: Two entrepreneur sisters, Angela and Yoojin, were able to use their miracle face cream to secure the biggest deal in the history of the hit TV show, Shark Tank. They were able to convince all five sharks to invest a whopping $2.5 million for 25% of their Korean beauty line. These two sisters are at the top of the $300 Billion dollar skin care industry in their home country of Korea and now they are taking over the anti-aging cream industry globally. It's no surprise the Shark Tank ‘Miracle' face cream episode was one of the most watched shows in series history!
With the help of the sharks, the sisters completely re-branded their skin care product and are now able to launch globally!
Arthur Graham added a status update: Quite the honor to see my humble work published alongside the greats in this year's Holy & Intoxicated broadside series.
Some shit, huh. Congratulations.
Some shit, huh. Congratulations.
KaseyS wrote: "Some shit, huh. Congratulations."Thanks -- here's the link again for those who missed it:
http://www.horrorsleazetrash.com/unca...
And here it is.
Another One Done
It’s been said
before, but
poetry
is a lazy
form of
literature.
Anyone
can write a
fucking poem.
Look, I’m
doing it
right now,
and I’m about
as lazy as
they come.
© 2017 Arthur Graham
The others of the series I saw were rather serious. Not that this isn't, but I also found it to be funny; maybe because we can all identify with it; an AG trait.
Congratulations again. There was some tough competition on this one. Go get 'em dooooooooooood.
Another One Done
It’s been said
before, but
poetry
is a lazy
form of
literature.
Anyone
can write a
fucking poem.
Look, I’m
doing it
right now,
and I’m about
as lazy as
they come.
© 2017 Arthur Graham
The others of the series I saw were rather serious. Not that this isn't, but I also found it to be funny; maybe because we can all identify with it; an AG trait.
Congratulations again. There was some tough competition on this one. Go get 'em dooooooooooood.
KaseyS wrote: "Congratulations again. There was some tough competition on this one. Go get 'em dooooooooooood."Thanks again. I'll think of you kindly when I arrive where most poets usually end up -- cirrhotic, syphilitic, destitute and insane.
Can't find the post, but somewhere you said something about moderation. Distilled a long answer to; It's a relative concept, a function of both time and individual perception (POV) and eventually leads to a scientific characterizatio ostensibly for the sake of clarity. However their number or range eventually falls victim to time and differing perceptions and seems to be addressed in the mathematical concept of specificity. Then time and differing perceptions fall victim to conceptual assessment and then ......................... the beat goes on.
There is more, but I'm putting it in this children's doggy book.
I am fucking impressed and will soon begin bragging that you occasionally speak to me.
There is more, but I'm putting it in this children's doggy book.
I am fucking impressed and will soon begin bragging that you occasionally speak to me.
Arthur wrote; "when I arrive where most poets usually end up -- cirrhotic, syphilitic, destitute and insane. "
I thought that was the starting point; but I admit a fascination with circles.
I thought that was the starting point; but I admit a fascination with circles.
Okay, okay; if you insist on feigning humility and existential angst it's your day; maybe even week. In that context with a post-modern irony superimposed, here's Johnny!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-_30...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-_30...
Wish I'd have gotten there first. Bad day.