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August 13, 2010

Ezra On Ross

A nice analogy:

America does not currently conceive of marriage in the way that Douthat and Tushnet would like it to conceive of marriage, and in the way it would need to conceive of marriage in order for there to be a good reason the institution can't accommodate gays. So to oppose gay marriage, Douthat and Tushnet must first construct an alternative version of marriage, and then argue that if real marriage opens to gays, that's another step away from the idealized marriage that would be...

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Published on August 13, 2010 05:05

Do Prop 8 Proponents Have Standing To Appeal? Ctd

A reader writes:

One might be tempted to call a decision by the 9th Circuit to dismiss
appeal for lack of standing "narrow," or "procedural." But in an an
way, this possibility seems to get right to the heart of what the
opposition has been saying all along.

After all, standing is determined by material harm. Your interests or your rights must have been diminished in some way in order to file suit to protect them. Now, the anti-8 plaintiffs filed suit against Schwarzenegger, so he...

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Published on August 13, 2010 04:34

August 12, 2010

The Daily Wrap

Today on the Dish, a majority of Americans supported gay marriage. Andrew responded to the poll, while readers snickered over the shape of the graph (and this one too). But Glenn Beck jumped on board, Rush Limbaugh honored the sanctity of marriage with his fourth, and Andrew replied to Ross on celibacy, monogamy, and the importance of integration, echoed by this reader's choice of home vs. security.

The base of the GOP was debased, a reader scoffed at the fight over the Mosque and over the...

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Published on August 12, 2010 20:11

Do Prop 8 Proponents Have Standing To Appeal? Ctd

This piece is the most informative I've found so far - and suggests that the Prop 8 proponents may well have no more recourse if the Ninth Circuit agrees with Walker that they have no standing to appeal. A reader writes:


As a trial attorney, I think people are smoking crack if they think the Supreme Court will approve gay marriage.

But here's the problem for the Supreme Court in overturning Judge Walker's decision (which they desperately want to do). There was almost no defense of Prop 8...

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Published on August 12, 2010 17:52

Face Of The Day



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A picture released by Japanese animal theme park Adventure World and
received through Jiji Press on August 12, 2010 shows the twin babies of
giant panda, Rauhin, after they were born at the park in Shirahama. By Adventure World/AFP/Getty Images.





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Amusement park - Adventure World - Giant Panda - Japanese people - Recreation

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Published on August 12, 2010 17:02

Born In The USA, Ctd

Damon Root sharpens the pro-birthright case:

Those immigrants aren't coming here to have babies and theyaren't coming here to abuse social services. As Riley , immigrants "use welfare at lower rates than natives.I should also add that if your concern is that some immigrants arereceiving more in public benefits than they pay in taxes, youshould keep in mind that so do 67 percent of Americans." Accordingto the Pew Hispanic Research Center, based on its study of the 2004Census, the...

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Published on August 12, 2010 16:40

The Biggest Loser If Pot Is Legalized?

Canada:

[T:]he change in [California:] law would be devastating to the
Canadian economy, halting the flow of billions of dollars from the US
into Canada and eventually forcing hundreds of thousands into
unemployment. Over the past 20 years, Canada has developed a substantial and highly
profitable marijuana industry that is almost completely dependent on
the US market. Between 60 and 90% of the marijuana produced
domestically is exported to the US via cross-border smuggling
operations.

Scott...

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Published on August 12, 2010 16:08

Do Prop 8 Proponents Have Standing To Appeal? Ctd

A reader writes:

Here are the key passages from the Perry v. Schwarzenegger Slip Opinion p 108-9

"The Due Process Clause provides that no "State [shall:] deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law." US Const Amend XIV, § 1. Due process protects individuals against arbitrary governmental intrusion into life, liberty or property. See Washington v Glucksberg, 521 US 702, 719- 720 (1997). When legislation burdens the exercise of a right deemed to be fundamental...

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Published on August 12, 2010 15:50

Do Prop 8 Proponents Have Standing To Appeal?

This seems to me the news in Judge Walker's decision to extend a stay on his ruling in favor of marriage rights for gay couples until August 18. I'm not a legal expert but this is from the NCLR's release:

Even though Judge Walker did not immediately let same-sex couples in California marry, the ruling provides important insight into the merits of the issues that the Ninth Circuit will consider on appeal. For example, in his ruling today, Judge Walker casts serious doubt on whether the...

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Published on August 12, 2010 15:07

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