Hattie Holden Edmonds's Blog, page 3
October 30, 2014
Approaching the Book Bloggers
Book bloggers can be a self-published author's best friend these days. But there are thousands of them out there so you want to make sure that you are targeting the right ones for your particular book. Once again, a scattergun approach is wasting both your time and theirs. So do your research.
Approaching the Book Bloggers
What to do if you're not Katie Price, you don't have a prize pair of puppies to promote you but you're still determined to make your book a success?
Book bloggers can be a self-published author's best friend these days. But there are thousands of them out there so you want to make sure that you are targeting the right ones for your particular book. Once again, a scattergun approach is wasting both your time and theirs. So do your research.
One way is to Google a similar book to your own and ad...
Book bloggers can be a self-published author's best friend these days. But there are thousands of them out there so you want to make sure that you are targeting the right ones for your particular book. Once again, a scattergun approach is wasting both your time and theirs. So do your research.
One way is to Google a similar book to your own and ad...
October 23, 2014
Getting Publicity for Your Book
What to do if you're not JK Rowling, you don't have a big publishing house to promote you but you're determined to make your book a success?
There are many ways to get publicity for your book and traditional print media is still one of them. Start by making a list of all the newspapers and magazines (local and national) that you believe would be interested your unique story (see last week's Writing A Punchy Press Release). Then research their particular in-house style, what sort of stories the...
There are many ways to get publicity for your book and traditional print media is still one of them. Start by making a list of all the newspapers and magazines (local and national) that you believe would be interested your unique story (see last week's Writing A Punchy Press Release). Then research their particular in-house style, what sort of stories the...
October 15, 2014
Writing a Punchy Press Release
What to do if you're not JK Rowling, you don't have a big publishing house to promote you but you're determined to make your book a success?
The ideal press release will contain not only all the relevant information about your book but also a tantalising hook to snag the attention of any journalist reading it. It should be as concise as possible and no longer than an A4 piece of paper (around 500- 700 words). Relevant information should include:
1. The headline. At its most basic, this will be...
The ideal press release will contain not only all the relevant information about your book but also a tantalising hook to snag the attention of any journalist reading it. It should be as concise as possible and no longer than an A4 piece of paper (around 500- 700 words). Relevant information should include:
1. The headline. At its most basic, this will be...
October 8, 2014
Making Twitter Work for Your Book
What to do if you're not JK Rowling, you don't have a big publishing house to promote you but you're determined to make your book a success?
Twitter, like blogging, is essential to any book marketing campaign these days. It helps you connect with your peers, share important information and it gives you a voice and a profile out there in the busy world of book publishing. Like many writers - especially those from traditional publishing - I was a complete Twitter-phobe. So I started with a sess...
Twitter, like blogging, is essential to any book marketing campaign these days. It helps you connect with your peers, share important information and it gives you a voice and a profile out there in the busy world of book publishing. Like many writers - especially those from traditional publishing - I was a complete Twitter-phobe. So I started with a sess...
September 24, 2014
Choosing the Best Self-Publishing Service for Your Book
What to do if you're not JK Rowling, you don't have a big publishing house to promote you but you're determined to make your book a success?
Having initially thought that I would put the book out myself, suddenly the idea of setting up an imprint to publish it under, finding a good quality/affordable printing company, loading it up on Amazon, getting an ISBN number (essential if you want to sell in bookshops), producing the Advanced Information sheets... all seemed just too daunting.
So I sta...
Having initially thought that I would put the book out myself, suddenly the idea of setting up an imprint to publish it under, finding a good quality/affordable printing company, loading it up on Amazon, getting an ISBN number (essential if you want to sell in bookshops), producing the Advanced Information sheets... all seemed just too daunting.
So I sta...
September 17, 2014
Always Judge a Book by Its Cover
What to do if you're not JK Rowling, you don't have a big publishing house to promote you but you're determined to make your book a success?
Rule Nr 1. Do your research. There are certain guidelines to designing a book cover depending on its genre, so take a trip to your local bookshop and look around. You'll immediately spot the obvious: chicklit, for example, usually has soft girly covers (no surprise there), often in pink with handwritten font for the titles and authors names, while thrillers have a harder, darker look with large, bold typeface and often one striking image. Whatever genre your book fits into, your potential readers need to know in advance what they are picking up - or in the case of Amazon, what they are clicking on.
Having gone down the path of insisting that I do the cover myself, I asked a printmaker and artist friend with a very keen eye, to help me. The result was perfect - in my mind - but then I took it round a few bookshops. Everyone said the same thing, that it looked great, but it didn't work as a book cover. So it was back to the drawing board.
After gathering a lot of personal recommendations and price comparisons (from £250 - £400), two reputable designers stood out for me: Joel Friedlander and Scarlett Rugers. In the end I went for Scarlett and I couldn't have been happier with the result.
Photo:Scarlett Rugers.
But whoever you decide on to create your cover, make sure that a) multiple revisions are included in the cost and b) you own the rights to the final design. Check out this very useful article on the subject of copyright - http://bit.ly/1qTtJcf. Also book well ahead, great designers are busy at least two months in advance.
If money's tight and you have to do the cover yourself, Free Images and Shutterstock are both reasonably priced. NB when it says royalty free, it's not actually free - which is what I thought - it means you pay one-off fee. Also remember that most people will only see your cover as a thumbnail size, so shrink it down to see how it will appear on your Amazon page. But once it's done, I really recommend that you take it around several local bookshops to see what they think of it. While we always need the supportive thumbs-up from our families and mates, you really, really want a professional's honest opinion on this one.
What I ate: Although I had a lovely tuna sandwich at my mate Sadie's house, when designing that first cover, it didn't look so thrilling in the flesh. So instead I've selected a picture of Dennis, Sadie's insanely greedy Bassett hound who, just before I arrived, had necked half a leg of leftover lamb.
Photo: Sadie Hennessy
Next Week : Choosing the Best Self-Publishing Service for your Book.
For more advice on Getting Published, go to www.hattieholdenedmonds.com
Hattie's debut novel Cinema Lumière due out 24th September available on Amazon.
Facebook www.facebook.com/hattieholdenedmonds
Rule Nr 1. Do your research. There are certain guidelines to designing a book cover depending on its genre, so take a trip to your local bookshop and look around. You'll immediately spot the obvious: chicklit, for example, usually has soft girly covers (no surprise there), often in pink with handwritten font for the titles and authors names, while thrillers have a harder, darker look with large, bold typeface and often one striking image. Whatever genre your book fits into, your potential readers need to know in advance what they are picking up - or in the case of Amazon, what they are clicking on.
Having gone down the path of insisting that I do the cover myself, I asked a printmaker and artist friend with a very keen eye, to help me. The result was perfect - in my mind - but then I took it round a few bookshops. Everyone said the same thing, that it looked great, but it didn't work as a book cover. So it was back to the drawing board.
After gathering a lot of personal recommendations and price comparisons (from £250 - £400), two reputable designers stood out for me: Joel Friedlander and Scarlett Rugers. In the end I went for Scarlett and I couldn't have been happier with the result.
Photo:Scarlett Rugers.
But whoever you decide on to create your cover, make sure that a) multiple revisions are included in the cost and b) you own the rights to the final design. Check out this very useful article on the subject of copyright - http://bit.ly/1qTtJcf. Also book well ahead, great designers are busy at least two months in advance.
If money's tight and you have to do the cover yourself, Free Images and Shutterstock are both reasonably priced. NB when it says royalty free, it's not actually free - which is what I thought - it means you pay one-off fee. Also remember that most people will only see your cover as a thumbnail size, so shrink it down to see how it will appear on your Amazon page. But once it's done, I really recommend that you take it around several local bookshops to see what they think of it. While we always need the supportive thumbs-up from our families and mates, you really, really want a professional's honest opinion on this one.
What I ate: Although I had a lovely tuna sandwich at my mate Sadie's house, when designing that first cover, it didn't look so thrilling in the flesh. So instead I've selected a picture of Dennis, Sadie's insanely greedy Bassett hound who, just before I arrived, had necked half a leg of leftover lamb.
Photo: Sadie Hennessy
Next Week : Choosing the Best Self-Publishing Service for your Book.
For more advice on Getting Published, go to www.hattieholdenedmonds.com
Hattie's debut novel Cinema Lumière due out 24th September available on Amazon.
Facebook www.facebook.com/hattieholdenedmonds
September 10, 2014
When Is the Best Time to Publish Your Book?
What to do if you're not JK Rowling, you don't have a big publishing house to promote you but you're determined to make your book a success?
Most traditional publishers will avoid launching new fiction from October - December because this is peak time for the Christmas market when they focus on their gift titles (although well established brand fiction may still be launched towards Christmas as they can count as gifts). So if you don't want to suffocate under piles of Nigella's Seasonal Sauces and Jamie's Turkey Treats, give it a miss.
© Veleknez | Dreamstime.com
Also the press, along with the book bloggers, who you really want to woo with a free e-book in return for an (honest) review, will be saturated (there'll be a separate post devoted to book bloggers in a few weeks).
The best time to publish also depends on the type of book. May and June is good for light summer reads (this includes narrative non-fiction, romance, chicklit etc). But remember that August is very quiet, because it's holiday time and everyone's away.
Photo credit: H Edmonds
Longer/epic sagas/historical fiction/crime can slot in towards the end of summer as the nights draw in (i.e in September before the Christmas mayhem). January is good for books about self-help, changing careers, exercise, diets etc (yawn, yawn).
Depending on your subject matter, look out for timely tie-ins with your book which will help with publicity; Valentines Day, Fathers Day, World Lizard Day (yes, there really is such a thing), whatever your book is about, be it fiction or non-fiction, you can probably find something in the calendar to link it to.
Green lizard © Issalina | Dreamstime.com
And if you want to get ahead with the marketing, you can start connecting with those communities online via Twitter now. (There will be a blog post about best Twitter techniques in October).
It's also a good idea to check out what's coming out on Amazon the same week you intend to publish, so there's no big overlap if someone else is bringing out a very similar book, or if any back catalogue books are being re-released, to coincide with an anniversary.
To see what's coming out on Amazon in next ninety days, click here
But - a huge plus of being a self-published author is that you are much more flexible (and speedy) than if you were being published traditionally. You can always shift your dates and if something comes up in the news, which is closely related to your book (and it's ready to go) then leap on that gravy train lickety split.
Photo : © Bulus | Dreamstime.com
This week's advice came from Clare Christian, founder of RedDoor Publishing and Young Publisher of the Year. Since it was via email, there was no criss-crossing London and therefore no sneaky snacks en route. I was, however, sampling some savoury cheese twists at the time. Very tasty too.
Photo: H Edmonds
Next week : Always Judge a Book by its Cover.
For more advice on Getting Published, go to www.hattieholdenedmonds.com
Hattie's debut novel Cinema Lumière due out 24th September available on Amazon.
Facebook www.facebook.com/hattieholdenedmonds
Most traditional publishers will avoid launching new fiction from October - December because this is peak time for the Christmas market when they focus on their gift titles (although well established brand fiction may still be launched towards Christmas as they can count as gifts). So if you don't want to suffocate under piles of Nigella's Seasonal Sauces and Jamie's Turkey Treats, give it a miss.
© Veleknez | Dreamstime.com
Also the press, along with the book bloggers, who you really want to woo with a free e-book in return for an (honest) review, will be saturated (there'll be a separate post devoted to book bloggers in a few weeks).
The best time to publish also depends on the type of book. May and June is good for light summer reads (this includes narrative non-fiction, romance, chicklit etc). But remember that August is very quiet, because it's holiday time and everyone's away.
Photo credit: H Edmonds
Longer/epic sagas/historical fiction/crime can slot in towards the end of summer as the nights draw in (i.e in September before the Christmas mayhem). January is good for books about self-help, changing careers, exercise, diets etc (yawn, yawn).
Depending on your subject matter, look out for timely tie-ins with your book which will help with publicity; Valentines Day, Fathers Day, World Lizard Day (yes, there really is such a thing), whatever your book is about, be it fiction or non-fiction, you can probably find something in the calendar to link it to.
Green lizard © Issalina | Dreamstime.com
And if you want to get ahead with the marketing, you can start connecting with those communities online via Twitter now. (There will be a blog post about best Twitter techniques in October).
It's also a good idea to check out what's coming out on Amazon the same week you intend to publish, so there's no big overlap if someone else is bringing out a very similar book, or if any back catalogue books are being re-released, to coincide with an anniversary.
To see what's coming out on Amazon in next ninety days, click here
But - a huge plus of being a self-published author is that you are much more flexible (and speedy) than if you were being published traditionally. You can always shift your dates and if something comes up in the news, which is closely related to your book (and it's ready to go) then leap on that gravy train lickety split.
Photo : © Bulus | Dreamstime.com
This week's advice came from Clare Christian, founder of RedDoor Publishing and Young Publisher of the Year. Since it was via email, there was no criss-crossing London and therefore no sneaky snacks en route. I was, however, sampling some savoury cheese twists at the time. Very tasty too.
Photo: H Edmonds
Next week : Always Judge a Book by its Cover.
For more advice on Getting Published, go to www.hattieholdenedmonds.com
Hattie's debut novel Cinema Lumière due out 24th September available on Amazon.
Facebook www.facebook.com/hattieholdenedmonds
September 3, 2014
How to Successfully Self-Publish
What to do if you're not JK Rowling, you don't have a big publishing house to promote you but you're determined to make your book a success?
You've written your book. You've had it edited and proofread.* You've received a respectable amount of rejection letters from publishers, and now you want to get it out into the world. Where do you start?
Six months ago, self-publishing was a dirty word in my book. It was for old people who write dusty memoirs and nutters who ramble for 800 pages about giant lizards taking over the world.
But after a ten year apprenticeship of three and a half novels and a road littered with
a big agent, several near misses with publishers and my own fair share of rejection letters, I eventually had to change my mind.
At first I found the world of self-publishing pretty scary. One end consists of hundreds of companies offering packages costing thousands of pounds and promising to make my book a success. Yeh! The other end was the cheap-seats Load-it-up-on Amazon yourself and hope for the best.
Being so technophobic, I can barely plug in a toaster, the latter was too traumatising, but I certainly wasn't about to part with £5,000 (that's what the top end self-publishing houses can charge just to get your book out there, without even any PR and marketing).
About a month into my research, I read about a one day Guardian Masterclass called Secrets of successful self-publishing. Initially I hesitated at the £150 price tag, but it turned out to be worth its weight in gold. Presented by Joanna Penn in eight hours I learnt more about self-publishing (pitfalls and all) than the previous four weeks of brain-fry.
It gave me the bare-bone mechanics of getting my book out there, warned me off some (but not all) of the self-publishing companies, told me how to promote the book in a crowded market place and above all, instilled a feeling of 'I can actually do it - and it's not such a shameful secret.' What I also loved was her message that 'We're all in this together - it's about cooperation, not competition.'
I emerged with a completely new attitude - I would self-publish with pride (and passion). That was six months ago and since then I've been lucky enough to meet with, amongst others; the former head of digital marketing at Harper Collins, a highly experienced publishing online editor, a book blogging expert, an Amazon algorithm whizz and a seasoned Twitter aficionado. All of whom were able to give me advice that I couldn't find anywhere else. So in this new spirit of cooperation, I am going to pass it on.
To lighten the tone, I'm also going to include some of the happy coincidences which happened along the way, together with some of the grub I ate whilst criss-crossing London to learn about self-publishing. Nothing fancy - just a cheese and pickle sarnie here, an orange flavoured flapjack there, - but definitely worth noting, in my book.
Next week: When is the best time to publish?
What I ate : a very nice moussaka at the Masterclass.
• If you haven't had your manuscript edited or proofread, it's well worth the investment. Cornerstones have a great reputation.
• For good proofreaders, check out the Society of Editors and Proofreaders
Hattie's debut novel Cinema Lumière due out 24th September available on Amazon.
For more info www.hattieholdenedmonds.com
Facebook: facebook.com/hattieholdenedmonds
You've written your book. You've had it edited and proofread.* You've received a respectable amount of rejection letters from publishers, and now you want to get it out into the world. Where do you start?
Six months ago, self-publishing was a dirty word in my book. It was for old people who write dusty memoirs and nutters who ramble for 800 pages about giant lizards taking over the world.
But after a ten year apprenticeship of three and a half novels and a road littered with
a big agent, several near misses with publishers and my own fair share of rejection letters, I eventually had to change my mind.
At first I found the world of self-publishing pretty scary. One end consists of hundreds of companies offering packages costing thousands of pounds and promising to make my book a success. Yeh! The other end was the cheap-seats Load-it-up-on Amazon yourself and hope for the best.
Being so technophobic, I can barely plug in a toaster, the latter was too traumatising, but I certainly wasn't about to part with £5,000 (that's what the top end self-publishing houses can charge just to get your book out there, without even any PR and marketing).
About a month into my research, I read about a one day Guardian Masterclass called Secrets of successful self-publishing. Initially I hesitated at the £150 price tag, but it turned out to be worth its weight in gold. Presented by Joanna Penn in eight hours I learnt more about self-publishing (pitfalls and all) than the previous four weeks of brain-fry.
It gave me the bare-bone mechanics of getting my book out there, warned me off some (but not all) of the self-publishing companies, told me how to promote the book in a crowded market place and above all, instilled a feeling of 'I can actually do it - and it's not such a shameful secret.' What I also loved was her message that 'We're all in this together - it's about cooperation, not competition.'
I emerged with a completely new attitude - I would self-publish with pride (and passion). That was six months ago and since then I've been lucky enough to meet with, amongst others; the former head of digital marketing at Harper Collins, a highly experienced publishing online editor, a book blogging expert, an Amazon algorithm whizz and a seasoned Twitter aficionado. All of whom were able to give me advice that I couldn't find anywhere else. So in this new spirit of cooperation, I am going to pass it on.
To lighten the tone, I'm also going to include some of the happy coincidences which happened along the way, together with some of the grub I ate whilst criss-crossing London to learn about self-publishing. Nothing fancy - just a cheese and pickle sarnie here, an orange flavoured flapjack there, - but definitely worth noting, in my book.
Next week: When is the best time to publish?
What I ate : a very nice moussaka at the Masterclass.
• If you haven't had your manuscript edited or proofread, it's well worth the investment. Cornerstones have a great reputation.
• For good proofreaders, check out the Society of Editors and Proofreaders
Hattie's debut novel Cinema Lumière due out 24th September available on Amazon.
For more info www.hattieholdenedmonds.com
Facebook: facebook.com/hattieholdenedmonds
March 16, 2012
Portobello Puff - Chapter 24 (Finale)
'Have you tried meditation before?' asks Sue from the pink chenille armchair opposite me.
'Yes,' I say from the mauve sofa, 'but it doesn't work. My mind's too busy.' I tap the side of my head. 'It's like a madhouse in there.'
Sue smiles. 'Isn't everyone's?'
Sue and I are sitting in her Shepherd's Bush flat and nice as she seems, I'm still pretty peeved with Dr Ling for sending me here. I may work for a holistic Heath and Well-being website but all I want is the pharmaceutical equivalent of a giant sledgehammer to knock the panic attacks into oblivion.
'Close your eyes and make sure your back is straight,' says Sue. I suppress an irritated sigh and decide to go along with it, mainly because I don't want to hurt Sue's feelings.
'Breathing deeply, work downwards from your head, relaxing each part of your body,' says Sue. 'Your forehead, your cheekbones, your jaw...' Sue reminds me of Ma Larkin from the Darling Buds of May, all floral and blowsy as if she's just gusted in from 1950's Kent and is about to bustle into the kitchen and bring out a massive pork pie with a side serving of Piccalilli.
'Your neck, your shoulders, your chest...let all the tension drain away,' says Sue.
What was the name of the actress who played Ma Larkin? Pam somebody. I fish around in my mind but the only Pams I can dredge up are Pam Ayres who was on Radio 4 yesterday, and Pam Anderson.
'Your knees, your calves, your ankles...,' says Sue.
Whatever happened to Pam Anderson? Must Google her when I get home.
'Now take several more deep breaths,' says Sue, 'consciously noticing the space between each one.'
I abandon the search for more Pams and do as Sue says, breathing deeply and trying to linger in the gap between each breath. In. Pause. Out. Pause. In. Pause. Out. Pause. It's actually quite soothing.
'Whenever you notice your mind wandering, come back to that space,' says Sue.
I take a few more breaths and feel a slight slowing in the incessant, inane mind chatter. Random facts, pointless fretting about flaking skin, my frankly quite strange fixation with Dede, the Indonesian fisherman - it all starts to fall away.
In. Pause. Out. Pause. In. Pause. Out. Pause. It's about now that I feel a sort of click, a shifting downs of gears and a sensation of...
'You can open your eyes now.' I can hear Sue's voice from far away, as if from end of a tunnel. But I don't want to open my eyes. I want to stay here.
'It stopped,' I say when I've finally dragged myself back to Sue's sitting room. 'My mind just stopped.' I shake my head, amazed. 'It was extraordinary...' I pause. There simply aren't any words to describe what I've just experienced.
'Thank you,' I say to Sue a little later, as we stand on her porch together.
'Just five minutes each day,' says Sue. 'Try it and see if it makes a difference.'
'I will,' I say. You'd have to be crackers to get a taste of that feeling and not want to try it again.
I give Sue a hug, which she returns with just the type of hug Ma Larkin would have given - a big, warm, Kentish embrace, which feels like haystacks, apple orchards and homemade sponge pudding all rolled into one. As we pull apart it comes to me. Pam Ferris.
I head off, smiling into the spring sunshine. At the corner I pass beneath a cherry tree and a froth of pink blossom flutters down like confetti around me while above, the sky stretches out like a freshly painted canvas, big and blue and beautiful.
Watch out next Friday for our new fiction series: 'Diary of Shakti Ananda, yoga teacher and Light worker from West London.'
'Yes,' I say from the mauve sofa, 'but it doesn't work. My mind's too busy.' I tap the side of my head. 'It's like a madhouse in there.'
Sue smiles. 'Isn't everyone's?'
Sue and I are sitting in her Shepherd's Bush flat and nice as she seems, I'm still pretty peeved with Dr Ling for sending me here. I may work for a holistic Heath and Well-being website but all I want is the pharmaceutical equivalent of a giant sledgehammer to knock the panic attacks into oblivion.
'Close your eyes and make sure your back is straight,' says Sue. I suppress an irritated sigh and decide to go along with it, mainly because I don't want to hurt Sue's feelings.
'Breathing deeply, work downwards from your head, relaxing each part of your body,' says Sue. 'Your forehead, your cheekbones, your jaw...' Sue reminds me of Ma Larkin from the Darling Buds of May, all floral and blowsy as if she's just gusted in from 1950's Kent and is about to bustle into the kitchen and bring out a massive pork pie with a side serving of Piccalilli.
'Your neck, your shoulders, your chest...let all the tension drain away,' says Sue.
What was the name of the actress who played Ma Larkin? Pam somebody. I fish around in my mind but the only Pams I can dredge up are Pam Ayres who was on Radio 4 yesterday, and Pam Anderson.
'Your knees, your calves, your ankles...,' says Sue.
Whatever happened to Pam Anderson? Must Google her when I get home.
'Now take several more deep breaths,' says Sue, 'consciously noticing the space between each one.'
I abandon the search for more Pams and do as Sue says, breathing deeply and trying to linger in the gap between each breath. In. Pause. Out. Pause. In. Pause. Out. Pause. It's actually quite soothing.
'Whenever you notice your mind wandering, come back to that space,' says Sue.
I take a few more breaths and feel a slight slowing in the incessant, inane mind chatter. Random facts, pointless fretting about flaking skin, my frankly quite strange fixation with Dede, the Indonesian fisherman - it all starts to fall away.
In. Pause. Out. Pause. In. Pause. Out. Pause. It's about now that I feel a sort of click, a shifting downs of gears and a sensation of...
'You can open your eyes now.' I can hear Sue's voice from far away, as if from end of a tunnel. But I don't want to open my eyes. I want to stay here.
'It stopped,' I say when I've finally dragged myself back to Sue's sitting room. 'My mind just stopped.' I shake my head, amazed. 'It was extraordinary...' I pause. There simply aren't any words to describe what I've just experienced.
'Thank you,' I say to Sue a little later, as we stand on her porch together.
'Just five minutes each day,' says Sue. 'Try it and see if it makes a difference.'
'I will,' I say. You'd have to be crackers to get a taste of that feeling and not want to try it again.
I give Sue a hug, which she returns with just the type of hug Ma Larkin would have given - a big, warm, Kentish embrace, which feels like haystacks, apple orchards and homemade sponge pudding all rolled into one. As we pull apart it comes to me. Pam Ferris.
I head off, smiling into the spring sunshine. At the corner I pass beneath a cherry tree and a froth of pink blossom flutters down like confetti around me while above, the sky stretches out like a freshly painted canvas, big and blue and beautiful.
Watch out next Friday for our new fiction series: 'Diary of Shakti Ananda, yoga teacher and Light worker from West London.'
