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July 26, 2011
Pastafarianism in the military
Here's a guest post by Justin Griffith. Justin is well known for his fight against the idea that "there are no Atheists in Foxholes". He was recently profiled in the New York Times for his activism.
A little while ago, news broke about a Pastafarian winning the right to wearing a pasta strainer on his head for his official driver's license photograph *edit: it seems that there was no legal battle*. Coincidentally, around the same time, I got a few emails from the contributors to a Wikipedia article on Religious Symbols in the US Military asking if I would contribute a photograph of my Atheist dog tags.
Shortly after I donated the photograph to Wikipedia, the photo was added to the Flying Spaghetti Monster entry as well. Awesome.
I actually have a few funny stories about FSM and the Army. *warning: quoting a Drill Sergeant is NSFW*
Why the Flying Spaghetti Monster was bigger than Jesus in boot camp.
There are strict rules about what non-military texts you can posses during boot camp. They only allow one book, and it must be a holy book from your religion. As you'd expect from this rule, there were a few Bibles, a Koran, and even a Book of Mormon in various wall-lockers in my company. Most people just didn't have a book at all.
I, however, brought my copy of The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
My book was incredibly popular, and people kept talking about it during the few short breaks you get during the typical boot camp day. Then other people would hear about it and ask me if they could borrow it. Everyone laughed like a bastard, and really enjoyed it.
Many people told me that the book really made some sense to them. I must have accidentally converted dozens of people, as the humorous parody religion's messages actually sank in.
Drill Sergeant VS Flying Spaghetti Monster
At one point my Drill Sergeant tried to take it away from me. He thought it was just some book that I smuggled in. Keep in mind that Drill Sergeants are professionally trained in the art of not laughing at anything (yelling and freaking out are more appropriate responses to most situations.)
Anyway, this is the gist of the conversation:
Drill Sergeant: "Private Griffith – is that some contraband?"
Me: "No, Drill Sergeant. It's my holy book."
Drill Sergeant: "Give that to me…" *Yoink!* "Flying Spaghetti Monster!? What the fuck?"
Me: "I'm a Pastafarian, Drill Sergeant."
[he shot me a look like he was t minus 5 seconds from throwing me into the Sun]
Drill Sergeant: "Are you fucking with me? Are you fucking with me at 0600, Private Griffith? Before I even get some goddamned breakfast?"
[I did my best to return the intensely humorless stone face.]
Me: "No, Drill Sergeant."
Drill Sergeant: "Flying Spaghetti Monster!? I don't fucking believe it!!!"
Me: "I believe it, Drill Sergeant."
Drill Sergeant: "What the hell is wrong with you, warrior?"
[I went for broke]
Me: "Drill Sergeant, I'm afraid I can't really talk to you about this any further unless I'm in my religious clothing. I need to be in full pirate regalia, or at the very least wearing an eye patch."
….Then he just looked at me for about 30 seconds. Crickets. Time stopped… The other soldiers that were around were extremely scared of the coming mass punishment they imagined that I had surely just earned them.
Then he flipped through the book. He read a few sentences out loud. And then it happened.
He smiled.
Then he handed me my book and told me to do some push ups – a slap on the wrist. And my punishment was really only for making him smile, not for anything else. He just couldn't bring himself to treat this situation like every other situation.
My recruiter put his own religion on my forms, instead of Atheist.
First off, I actually had quite an ordeal simply getting my ID tags to accurately reflect my atheism. When I was speaking to Army recruiters, the first one that I worked with was a very religious person. Normally, this isn't relevant. However, when asked what my religion was, I answered "Atheist". He entered a "Baptist" variation.
At one point he asked me to look over his computer screen for any errors, and I hastily fixed this. I only had a few seconds, so I scrolled through the list and found "NO-REL-PREF". A few days later, I had more issues with this recruiter and asked to be assigned to another one. He was great, but I guess he forgot to fix my religious preference on my forms as I requested. A similar set of circumstances prevented the mistake from being corrected when they were being issued at Basic Training.
YES-REL-PREF
Religious Preference – that's the Army's term. It's a little garish and awkward, but it does the job. I was pissed off that I was stuck with dog tags that said "NO-REL-PREF". I do have a religious preference – "none for me please… Atheist!" That's not the same as "I don't have a religious preference".
I've thought about religion quite seriously, and I most certainly have a preference. Atheist has been on the military's approved list of responses to this question for quite some time, so I was not breaking any barriers. I was finally told that I could (and did) change my religious preference to Atheist on my paperwork, but that I couldn't receive updated dog tags. I was told that soldiers change their last names and religious preferences frequently enough, but must get their updated dog tags made off post at their own expense.
I was a little bit angered that I now had to buy my own set of ID tags to fix this, but at least I had an answer and a way forward.
FLY-SPA-MON
Being a former creationist, I really identified with Flying Spaghetti Monster meme. Leaving creationist indoctrination was a long and painful journey for me. Absurd as FSM might be, it's as culturally significant to me as religion is to many others. I truly identify with it, appreciating both the humor and the reality underpinning the parody religion.
Obviously, a strictly serious answer to the question about my religious preference is "Atheist". But given the amount of hassle I went through to get my dog tags corrected – I decided it was time for some levity. Unfortunately, the limited writing space is a factor. I considered these:
FLY-SPA-MON
PASTAFARIAN
But I wanted to include ATHEIST too, so in the end I settled with
ATHEIST / FSM
And I'm happy with that. Yes, these are legitimate 'officially accepted' dog tags by the way. Interestingly, there are more than a few that legitimate sets that say "Jedi Knight".
You can check out Justin's excellent website Rock Beyond Belief here.
FSM Forever–Arizona license plate
Toni sent in this superb example of license plate evangelism. Excellent!
On the plate, is it just me or does it look like there's a smoke trail coming off the Saguaro cactus, up behind where the '4' is printed. It's as if the cactus has caught fire from the desert heat.
I lived there a few years ago and on one particularly scorching day the interior plastics in my car deformed from the heat. The rear view mirror became unaffixed to the window. I left it dangling by the wire for spite. I don't live there anymore.
July 24, 2011
Watch this uplifting FSM propaganda video
I love this video so much. Years ago I had the experience of watching an authentic over-the-top propaganda show and this video is spot on. Who can resist accepting information as Truth when it's set against delightful music and animation? I think all good propaganda straddles the boundary between happy and creepy. My question to you is: what emotions did this invoke?
July 22, 2011
What exactly do you think you are going to prove?
What exactly do you think you are going to prove? it's just disrespectful to other human beings faiths and beliefs, and im sure u of all people should know u can't put any sense into say a devout christian. Honestly, what your doing is the equivalant of making a rude, sarcastic joke to a child that doesn't understand humor. u cant tell a christian thats been raised from birth to believe that there's a magic man in the clouds that he's wrong. you'll just get what uve been getting, hate mail, and death threats. God is the equivalant of santa exept the child is never told he isn't real until it's to late. and u think your doing a good thing by making up this pastafarian crap to prove how absurd the idea of god is. what i don't think u understand is that u cant argue with idiots about this stuff as most christians are dont know a thing about science.(I apoligize to all respectable christian scientists). as an athiest, im disgusted what youre doing. like making fun of christians being killed by somali's, and u quoting, "apparently they thought there god could give them safe passage"(yes ive read ur website). really, did it ever, or does it ever occur to you that these people are actually human being's with family's and feeling's, and just because they think the world was created differantly than u, u have to mock them… that's kind of a dick move. your being no better than they are(religious people) by making fun of and disrespecting other people just 'cause they think differantly than u. oh wait u are religous, u worship a flying spaggetti monster. which means i have the right to ridicule u on how stupid your dumbfuck religion is(oh may the great pasta diety forgive me for my sin) and dont deny that u worship the all mighty pasta king, because your the leader of the church. with the true words of your religion written on a piece of paper. it's ironic that u, by trying to prove how bad religion is. go about it by u yourself inbodying everything that is wrong with human beliefs. u are everything that is wrong with athiesm. u go around acting all superior and pompus, like u know better than everyone else and tell them why there wrong mockingly. the world would be a better place if u took all your "followers" (butt pirates) got on a pirate ship and ate spaggetti until you all died of overeating.have u ever heard the term live and let live? and i love it how u post all the hate mail u get on a your page to be ridiculed by your cronies( who by the way need to get of the internet and do something productive)yes we all the the bible huggars are gonna say dumb stuff because they're uneducated. but that doesn't mean u have to be immature and make fun of there faults so just lay off. even though this message sounds hostile just know i agree with what your'e trying to do (i think) educating people, i just wholly disagree with how u are going about it.
-David
A short response from Bobby:
It's not our intention to mock or offend anyone. But I realize people sometimes feel mocked, or offended.
It might be fair to say that we're disrespectful. I would agree that most Pastafarians don't respect the notion that religion should sit on a pedestal. We don't think that because an action is explained in the context of religion it is exempt from the scrutiny it otherwise would have been subjected to. Religion is not a free pass for crazy ideas and crazy actions.
I agree, it's not our place to pass judgment on those who see the world through a lens of religion. But neither is it our place to ignore when personal belief becomes public action.
We can accept that some teach their kids the earth is 6000 years old and that dinosaurs are a myth. But if they push for those ideas to be taught in our schools, it's no longer a question of respecting personal belief.
The idea that rational minded people must be anti-religion is a wrong one, I think. If we're drawing lines to divide ourselves, I'd prefer the line be drawn between reasonable and unreasonable people, rather than religious and non-religious people.
It's one thing to see the world through a lens, and another thing to act as if it's the only lens that can exist.
I would suggest that there is no group more tolerant of other religious groups than Pastafarians. The death of the Christian sailors by pirates was a sad thing for everyone who heard of it, I'm sure. My hope is that it doesn't happen again.
July 20, 2011
Spaghetti Monster soap–clean living
July 18, 2011
Birthday present made of wires
July 16, 2011
Did eyes evolve from meatballs?
July 14, 2011
Jesus was a Pastafarian
July 13, 2011
Austrian Wins Right To Wear Pasta Strainer In Driver's License
July 12, 2011
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