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Red Prophet (Tales of Alvin Maker #2)

3.78  ·  Rating details ·  17,629 Ratings  ·  447 Reviews
Come here to the magical America that might have been
and marvel as the tale of Alvin Maker unfolds. The seventh son of a seventh son is a boy of mysterious powers, and he is waking to the mysteries of the land and its own chosen people.
Mass Market Paperback, 311 pages
Published July 15th 1992 by Tor Fantasy (first published 1988)
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Lyn
Jan 19, 2013 rated it liked it
Red Prophet by Orson Scott Card is the sequel to Card’s 1987 novel Seventh Son.

Like Ender's Shadow, the changed perspective sequel to Card’s masterpiece Ender's Game, Card demonstrates his great ability to tell a story from more than one vantage and can even expand this re-telling into another book.

Red Prophet continues the alternate American history began in Seventh Son and this time largely from the viewpoint of Lalawasike, known to most readers of American history as The Prophet, brother to
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Aaron
Sep 11, 2007 rated it did not like it
Recommends it for: Lovers of "noble savage" cliches
It's a shame that there are so few good alternate history books that I have been able to find. This one, Red Prophet is a prime example. The second part in the popular Alvin Maker series, it explores an alternate early 19th century America in which Oliver Cromwell's Puritanical revolution succeeded in the long run and frontier folk magic works.
So far, so good. I really enjoy the historical details that went into this work, the stories that get slipped in about Benjamin Franklin, George Washing
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Stephen
4.0 to 4.5 stars. A very unique, original fantasy (or alterniative history SF if you prefer) by one of the best writers around. Set in an alternative United States of the 19th century, this is a truly American fantasy tale. Wildly inventive and beautifully written. Highly Recommended.

Nominee: Hugo Award for Best Science Fiction Novel (1989)
Nominee: Nebula Award for Best Science Fiction Novel (1989)
Winner: Locus Award for Best Fantasy Novel (1989)
Nominee: Mythopoeic Fantasy Award for Adult Litera
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Werner
Oct 20, 2008 rated it it was amazing
Recommends it for: Fantasy fans, and alternate-world fans
Card continues, in this second installment of his Alvin Maker series, to exhibit the same literary artistry that was evident in the first volume, Seventh Son (see my review of that title). There is no slackening of his excellent prose, credible characterization, and strong world- building. Where the first book revolved around Alvin and his family, however, this one finds him caught up in major events in his world.

In our world, the leaders of Native American resistance to White expansion in the O
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Michael
Feb 12, 2009 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fantasy, read-in-2009
In a lot of ways, this feels like the second half of a longer novel that should have been paired with "Seventh Son."

"Seventh Son" establishes the character of Alvin Miller, Jr. and the fact that he's the seventh son of a seventh son. "Red Prophet" expands the alternative history of the universe Card is creating, including a lot of time spent on the politics of the universe. Card also spends some time setting up the rules by which his fantasy will play during the rest of the series (or so I pres
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James
It's a strange thing, but I've owned a copy of this book since my university days, and I'd obviously assumed that I'd read the book having previously rated it. However, once I came to read it again I realised that I'd not read it before at all. Quite why I'd managed to own an entire trilogy for nearly twenty years without reading beyond the first one is a mystery.

Red Prophet is the second in the original Alvin Maker trilogy – like Piers Anthony it seems that Card struggles to put a lid on a go
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Megan
Sep 07, 2011 rated it did not like it
Awww...I was really excited to like this series since the 1st book was pretty great, but this book left me madder than hell. I think one star should reflect that I HATED IT.

One reviewer noted that The Alvin Maker series is a thinly veiled version of Joseph Smith's journey in America. I had heard that Card was a Mormon, but not knowing enough about Mormonism, I had never detected any sort of particular religious connotation in his writing. I was also surprised that a supposedly Christian sect (I
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Kat  Hooper
May 03, 2012 rated it really liked it
Shelves: audiobook
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Red Prophet is the second book in Orson Scott Card’s THE TALES OF ALVIN MAKER, an alternate history set in a frontier America in which folk magic is real. In the first book, Seventh Son, we were introduced to the main protagonist of the series, Alvin Miller who, because he’s the seventh son of a seventh son, is a gifted healer. We meet Alvin as a baby and follow him into boyhood. At the end of the story he has a vision of a shin
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Althea Ann
Jun 09, 2010 rated it it was ok
The second in the Alvin Maker series.
Similar to what Card did in the 'Ender' series, this book starts off covering a lot of the same time period and events as the previous book, but taken from a different character's perspective. It also ventures further into 'alternate history' territory (and boy is it alternate!)
It's about the well-known Native American leader Tecumseh, and his brother Tenskwatawa, who was known as a prophet. (all true).
I have to say that I think the book would have worked bet
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Joy
Aug 08, 2009 rated it it was ok
Read RED PROPHET for Alvin, his growing up, his kindness, and his family. Don't read it for the division between Reds and Whites. In Card's fantasy America, Reds are connected with the land as part of one body. They feel it and it supports them. Whites poison the land wherever they spread. Alvin accompanies Red general Ta-Kumsaw in a war against the Whites, a war which the Red Prophet understands will lead to the best solution possible for all the people living in North America.

Two good elements
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Dave Seah
Aug 17, 2007 rated it it was amazing
I liked the first book the Alvin Maker series, Seventh Son well enough for its folksy look at a young alternative America, filled with homespun magic knacks and big families dreaming even bigger of a better life. In Red Prophet, we get to see the flipside of the white man's knackery compared to those of the red man. It's a fascinating portrait of good versus evil, drawn along the fault lines of selfishness, ambition, misplaced good intentions, ignorance, and principle. The characters in the book ...more
Renée Johnson
Nov 28, 2010 rated it it was ok
I adored Seventh Son, but so far, Red Prophet has yet to catch my attention. It's likely that the horrific stereotyping and bigotry oozing from every page has something to do with it.
Greg
Jun 26, 2017 rated it really liked it
Shelves: fiction
The complexity and depth of the story was taken to a deeper level in book 2 and now I feel more interest in learning about the real history of what happened at Tippecanoe. I love the world Card has created and how it helps me think about history, religion, and "the other" in a new ways. Excited for the next book!
Daniel Fox
Mar 10, 2013 rated it it was amazing
A book review of "Red Prophet" - by Orson Scott Card

Being the generational bi-product of the white and the red peoples (my great great (maybe one more great) grandmother walked the trail of tears- a full blooded Cherokee), this book was particularly startling/heart breaking to me. To see, even if contrived, Cards artists impression as seen through the eyes of the first and birthright citizens of the Americas: "The Red Man", I feel as though I finally understand some of the most hidden longings/p
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prcardi
Storyline: 4/5
Characters: 4/5
Writing Style: 4/5
World: 4/5

I admit it; I was spellbound through the first in this series and for half of this second. The writing is lyrical, the magic enchanting, the characters ever-so-human. It's not an America I ever knew, yet it is an America I can recognize and relate to. The story itself is powerful and full of meaning.

The spell was never fully broken, but it surely ebbed when the placing of Mormon allegories superseded the telling of this folktale, the buil
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Material Lives
Jan 19, 2010 rated it did not like it
This book is so terrible that I cannot fathom how anyone not only finishes it but gives it anything more than 1 star. I love OSC's Ender and Bean series, but this book is poorly written, poorly researched, and poorly edited. Card has admitted that he can't be bothered to keep track of his plots and characters, and so his other series are always overrun with errors and inconsistencies, and his lack of interest in research is apparent in this silly work of "historical"fiction. What historical fict ...more
Peter
I was pretty disappointed with this book. The first book in the series was a decent enough book, with focus on some average frontier settlers and some interesting happenings among them. The second book tried to leap onto a much broader stage and failed. Focusing on major historical figures far more than on real people, turning them into loathsome creatures with nothing to recommend them. I find it difficult to relate to anybody in this book because no common sense is shown by any of them. Everyo ...more
Luisa
Feb 19, 2014 rated it really liked it
Wow this story is just getting better! It is incredibly interesting to see the way the 'reds' did things, so different than the way that the 'whites' did... So much pain and suffering, all because of a few. I am very curious about the 'visitor', and the little hints that the book leaves behind. I absolutely adore Taleswapper more and more. Alvin is just adorable and I'm happy to see his evolution as a character. One more awesome thing is how it inserts historical characters and contexts, and mix ...more
Lia
Jan 09, 2008 rated it really liked it
I had a hard time at the beginning of this book. But once I really got into it a couple of chapters, I really liked it. It's very Fictional History, but has a great story to tell. And for all you LDS readers out there. It's got a lot of BOM stories going on. I thought some of that was funny (even though I don't think he intended it to be).

I'll probably go back and read Seventh Son again because it's been so long. If I'm going to read the series I want to make sure I'm clear on the story line.
Jeff
Feb 16, 2015 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
True rating: 2.5 stars - It's was ok, an average book.

This book was a bit of a let down from the first book in this series Seventh Son, as I didn't like the plot in this book nearly as much, with it's Red man vs. White man story line alternate history, which the alternate history thing in these books so far had been interesting, but in this story it feel like Card took the least interesting part of that alternate history and bludgeon me the reader to death with it, and thus my rating suffered ac
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Cynthia
Jul 21, 2010 rated it liked it
If I hadn't read book #1 and wasn't already intrigued with the storyline of Alvin I would have stopped reading this book. It turned out to be good in the end but OSCard did we really need the first 40 pages to be the most BORING conversation ever between two evil men? I kept saying, what about Alvin? I need to know what's happening to Alvin!!

But I did like the storyline about the Native Americans and reading about their magical powers, especially over the land. On to book #3!
Rebecca Workman
Jan 28, 2014 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: 2015
Enjoyable to imagine what a Native American experience might entail and to follow that thread and give flesh and bone to a people who have never truly been represented to me as anything other than stereotypes. It was good for me to shed immature thoughts and take on respect and endless possible explanations for who these Native American men and women might have been and why. Great storytelling with a strong control of pace balanced with detail/ philosophizing.
Christina
May 26, 2012 rated it it was ok
I generally enjoy the heck out of this author so this was a real disappointment. Two stars is generous. The racial dividers in this story are awful to the point of ridiculous. What's worse is that characters that I genuinely enjoyed in the first book are twisted so that they fit in to said racial divisions for story purposes. Not a very enjoyable read for me.
John Devlin
Mar 21, 2007 rated it liked it
A rich and fascinating take on a re-invented American history steeped in Indian lore and filled w/magic.
James Ross
Dec 13, 2016 rated it it was amazing
A pretty good, but somewhat bittersweet read.
June
Jun 28, 2008 rated it liked it
Recommends it for: not sure
Recommended to June by: Elissa
Shelves: magic
Parts of this I really enjoyed, other times I put it down and left it for a while. I have a harder time with alternative history fiction. I also wonder how Native Americans would react to it.
Ron
Jul 13, 2009 rated it liked it
Shelves: fantasy, maps
Three and a half. More action and a native American perspective is added, but Alvin's character becomes a foil for the alternative history lesson. And sometimes it seemed like a history lesson.
Tom
Jun 03, 2013 rated it it was amazing
These books are amazing. Orson Scott Card, wow. To think I was disappointed at the beginning of the first book because it wasn't based in space or the future.
Michael
Jan 04, 2016 rated it really liked it
Shelves: lds, fantasy
Very creative incorporation of Lehi's dream and the Anti-Nephi-Lehies into the story!
Katie
Jan 07, 2017 rated it really liked it
Best book I've read all year, as good if not better than the first. Had me looking up American history I hadn't studied since grade school.

Story: This is the second book in the Alvin Maker series, and I recommend that you read the first book before this one. Alvin doesn't even show up until about 90 pages in and those first 90 pages introduce our other leading characters, Ta-Kumsaw and Lolla-Wossiky. There's a lot of trouble going on in America involving William Henry Harrison, the whites and th
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Orson Scott Card is the author of the novels Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow, and Speaker for the Dead, which are widely read by adults and younger readers, and are increasingly used in schools.
Besides these and other science fiction novels, Card writes contemporary fantasy (Magic Street, Enchantment, Lost Boys), biblical novels (Stone Tables, Rachel and Leah), the American frontier fantasy series Th
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Other Books in the Series

Tales of Alvin Maker (6 books)
  • Seventh Son (Tales of Alvin Maker, #1)
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