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John C. Cremony's first encounter with the Indians of the Southwest occurred in the early 1850s, when he accompanied John R. Bartlett’s boundary commission surveying the United States-Mexican border. Some ten years later, as an officer of the California Volunteers, he renewed his acquaintance, particularly with the Apaches, whom he came to know as few white Americans before him had. Cremony's account of his experiences, published in 1868, quickly became, and remains today, a basic source on Apache beliefs, tribal life, and fighting tactics. Although its original purpose was to induce more effective military suppression of the Apaches, it has all the fast-paced action and excitement of a novel and the authenticity of an ethnographic and historical document.

322 pages, Paperback

First published November 1, 1981

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395 reviews54 followers
July 12, 2021
Life Among the Apaches is a first person account of two expeditions made by John Cremony into the territory in and around what is now Arizona and New Mexico in the early 1850's with the U.S. Boundary Commission (U.S. - Mexican border), and in the early 1860's with the California Volunteers (Union Army). He did not live with Apaches but was the first white man to learn the Apache language and talked with them a great deal on matters both friendly and hostile. He claims to relate only what he saw and heard himself and occasionally from reliable witnesses. What he tells concerning the character and behavior of the Apaches and neighboring tribes appears truthful, although it is difficult to guess whether his part in some armed conflicts may be embellished.

For anyone who cannot understand why frontier settlers could not get along with Native Americans, at least ones similar to the Apaches, this account will stand in perfect explanation. Their ethos was uninformed by anything of our western tradition, and they were fully as resistant to change as are white men. Cremony did at last discover that the Apaches had a sense of right and wrong but were usually well satisfied (or forced by their extreme living circumstances and attendant habits and culture) to ignore the difference in favor of practical results. They never bragged about themselves but had to be enticed roundabout into describing their skills and exploits. They detected braggadocio immediately and forever disdained the white boaster. They shared freely any prize gained in company of their companions but were selfish with private acquisitions.

The Apaches, like many tribes in the region, were not a cohesive group as a whole but rather comprised several adjacent independent smaller bands with the same language and customs. The bands occasionally combined for large raids or defense. Adjacent tribes were as often at odds as at peace. The Apaches had no chiefs but were perfectly democratic.

This account affirms that these people were equally as smart as and often more resourceful than white men, attributes which Cremony greatly admired but to strangers made them cunning rascals. They were trained from infancy to regard other peoples as enemies and taught that the chief excellence, ahead even of bravery, is to outwit an enemy, and deceit was regarded with high admiration. They were indifferent to, or sometimes enjoyed, the suffering of others. Their women were treated little better than slaves, and as such likely contributed as much by their endless work in camp to the economic support of their group as did the hunting and raiding of the men. Except in preparation of weapons, the men were fiercely resistant to any work that could not contribute directly to their immediate purposes.

In the poor land they occupied, it was more sensible to steal and plunder than to produce value otherwise, so the men became expert thieves and robbers and were admired by their band in proportion to their success. They were amazingly expert in long-distance communication by sign and signal and at desert camouflage(!), hunting, and tracking. They always had an eye on visitors, who rarely were aware of their presence. They wore loincloths but appeared indifferent to freezing, even sub-zero (F), temperatures. It is quite remarkable that a relatively small number of Apaches was able to control such a huge area for such a long time.

Cremony criticized the actions of the government towards Native Americans as inept and wasteful but concluded that Native American depredations could be overcome only with sudden and overwhelming force in many parts of the country at the same time and occupying those places.

The writing is interesting, straightforward and clear but not expert.
Profile Image for Dan Walker.
320 reviews19 followers
June 25, 2016
This book combines the frontier adventures associated with living by your wits, your knife, and your six-shooter, with deep insights into the Indian character. I think it is an important book even today, because we look back with shame on the subjugation of the Indians, and we also frequently identify American Indians with the current back-to-nature/environmental movements.

I remember as a kid reading books about the Apaches and wanting them to "win." It's natural, I suppose, to want to freely roam the West, living off the land. But this book dispels that myth. Mr. Cremony shares that the Apaches did not even farm; they lived off of hunting and what they could steal from their neighbors (Comanches, Navajos, Americans, or poor peasant Mexicans - it didn't matter). In fact, that was the surest way to the top of Apache society: the bolder and more brazen a thief you were, the more respected you were and the more wives you could support. The point is that the Apache way of life was completely incompatible with modern society, and a "win" for the Apaches would mean the defeat of virtually everything we think is important today.

So the Apaches had to be subjugated, and the faster the better, for both them and civilization. We look back with horror today on the cruel violence practiced by both sides, but I think the thing to remember is that this was truly a fight to the death. From reading the book, I'm convinced that the Apaches, at least the adults, would never have been able to become productive members of society. From youth they were taught that they were superior to all other races. This belief was in some ways true: Mr. Cremony repeatedly stresses the importance of being constantly on guard when in Apache country, since they would appear out of nowhere to kill you and/or steal everything you owned.

Nevertheless, beliefs such as this meant that the Apaches were like zebras: untamable. There would be no surrender or assimilation into society like immigrants from Europe. They would have to be defeated by force.

Note that Mr. Cremony does not excuse the horrible cruelties committed against the Indians. He is even very critical of how they were managed on the reservations. We can certainly discuss what better methods could have been used, but, in the end, it had to be done.

I also appreciated the book because it illustrated how deep the chasm is between civilized man and the barbarian. I believe this chasm exists regardless of whether we are discussing American Indians or the Germanic tribesmen who fought Rome. It took generations, no, millennia, to civilize Europe. We should have some humility when we judge the actions of past generations, especially if they were moving along the line that has given us the wonders of our modern world.
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39 reviews2 followers
July 1, 2022
Fascinating first-hand accounts by John Ceremony of his interactions with the Apaches. I picked it up for my step-dad for Christmas and have been reading it after him. Knife fights, ambushes, marches through the desert in search of water, near-death experiences, heroic accomplishments, all here. It was an absolute thrill to read.
614 reviews5 followers
May 6, 2020
Pop Sugar Reading Challenge-A book written by or about a journalist.

This was a fairly interesting first person account of some Apache interaction. However, it was kind of written in a boring style with super long run on sentences. And while I don't want to judge a 19th century writer by my 21st Century PC lens, it was a little jarring to see them referred to as "savages" and "beasts."
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330 reviews25 followers
December 15, 2017
This book is surprisingly good, if you value the opinion of an indian fighter from before and during the Civil War period. The writer had a significant experience living with and sometimes fighting alongside or against the Apache in Arizona and New Mexico regions of the U.S. Southwest. He has great respect for some aspects of the Apache character and does not lump all "indians" together in his descriptions. He sees and explains the differences between the Apache and Navajo, the Pecos, Pima, Yuma and other tribes of the area. The Apache were a proud people who could never take advice from or learn from the white invaders. They would not be taught foolish Christian values like turning the other cheek. They always retaliated for any insult. Constant battles were normal between the Apache and other tribes as well as the Mexicans.

His complaint about the Apache was that they gave the highest honor and value to the tribe member who was the best thief. The one who could steal horses and humiliate the enemy was given accolades and had his choice of the women. The great and brave warrior was recognized when needed but not valued most of the time. (How different is our modern society that values honesty and bravery but gives the most money and recognition to rock stars, actors and athletes?) The Apache valued the ability to be stealthy and steal most effectively. That made them inherently not trustworthy and treacherous.

He always felt safer with 2 six shooters on his hips, a good repeating rifle and a big sharp knife on his person when among the indians, no matter what tribe. That was his recommendation to the Army when they asked his advice about equipping troops for a "clean up" operation in the area.

After Hanta Yo, this is the most believable description of American native life I have ever read. While the writer downplays his own experiences, this guy lived an amazing life. His survival gives legitimacy to his opinions. Those who did not understand the Apache character did not survive to come home and write a book about it.
79 reviews
May 8, 2023
A must read for anyone interested in learning the real history of the Apache

Most people have been fed a diet of lies regarding the history of the original inhabitants of America.

First, we were subjected to the old Westerns from Hollywood. Great tales of the bad “Injun” and the good “Cowboy” or cavalryman. Must young lads were enthralled, as was I.

Then later on we were told NO, this is not what happened; the “Indians” were forcibly removed from America and unjustly so.

However, the real truth is not so clear cut it seems.

The Apaches were indeed a ruthless, lying and corrupt tribe. Just like the old western movies that we loved as kids.

A stab in the back was always imminent. There was no way that this tribe could possibly have allowed to have been given free rein and just left alone. It would have resulted in a massacre of epic proportions to innocent people. This people needed to be shown the way of civilisation it would seem, by fair means and foul.

Many tribes were willing immediately to get along with the early settlers of the US. They wholly welcomed them with open arms. They coexisted with them, married them even and traded freely.

The Apache were a rather different breed.

Read it and see if your mind gets changed, like mine.
Profile Image for Roger DeBlanck.
Author 7 books143 followers
October 12, 2016
When Cremony published this book in 1868, it must have been eye-opening for both the wonder and fear it produced in readers as they attempted to understand Native American cultures. Reading his views over 150 years later, it’s still eye-opening for the way it shows how the outside world of the white settlers perceived the native tribes. Moreover, Cremony provides extraordinary insight into the intelligence, resilience, and resourcefulness of the Apaches. He praises their brilliance, but then turns his logic to argue how their savagery forever prevents them from acting “civilized” like whites. This book serves as an important historical document. Its views allow us to assess how far we’ve come in efforts to eliminate bigotry, yet it also reminds us how far we still must go in order to achieve a higher degree of tolerance.
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112 reviews3 followers
December 15, 2017
Since I was very young Indian culture has fascinated me. As I grew older I became more and more convinced that the United States and its' representatives had and has treated "Indians" in a manner which can only be described as deplorable. This book covers events that occurred around the 1850's and the author having experienced a wide variety of circumstances arrived at the same conclusion. It is a first person account. The circumstances as presented were quite unlike anything which I have personally read and I enjoyed it. If you enjoy fact based stories about life in the west and Indian culture I highly recommend it.
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124 reviews6 followers
June 23, 2018
This is truly a remarkable book. An autobiographical account of the years the author spent running from, dealing with and getting to know the Apache people. It was written in 1868 (reprinted in 2015) and the writing reflects the style of that period. The book was intended to inform official and lay Americans about the perils of ongoing relations with the Apache Nation. The exploits of the author, the Apaches, other Indian tribes, American soldiers and the 'California brigade' are so incredible at times, you would think they're fictional, but they're not.
The book comes to a surprising and unexpected conclusion too.
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815 reviews6 followers
August 30, 2020
From 1989 to 1991 I worked at NAVAIR and our community had a det in Waco (home of the Texas Ranger Museum) and we were moving both squadrons to Oklahoma City. Started reading a lot about the west, mostly memoirs and non fiction. This is a remarkable work. A first hand account of a civilization that was about to come to an end. Personally, I think this should be required reading in our schools. Like parts of Marquis James The Raven, it's an attempt to give an accurate portrayal of native American life.
222 reviews5 followers
May 17, 2016
Great historical read

I thought this account very interesting. Cremony described his actions and intent very clearly at all times. He certainly knew how to deal with a very complicated people. From our vantage point in time, it is amazing that he lived to tell the story, and that the west was ever settled. I believe that I found out how Camp Roberts California got it's name from this account. Its
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3 reviews1 follower
December 26, 2017
A must read for anyone wanting to know more about the Indian Wars and Arizona before statehood. He writes with the military saavy of special forces with the passion of a peace corps volunteer. He does not write of an "enemy" but of a highly adapted foe to the strategic reality of the geography and an interest in the local culture.
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3 reviews1 follower
December 26, 2017
A must read for anyone wanting to know more about the Indian Wars and Arizona before statehood. He writes with the military saavy of special forces with the passion of a peace corps volunteer. He does not write of an "enemy" but of a highly adapted foe to the strategic reality of the geography and an interest in the local culture.
5 reviews
December 15, 2017
A true story written in 1868 that is a first hand account of a mythical part of American history. I'm really glad I found it. Straight forward, factual, and well written, it's also now among my favorite 'Westerns'. An incredible adventure.
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267 reviews2 followers
August 26, 2025
This book didn’t come about from a Dances With Wolves sort of immersion within a tribe who loved and trusted the author. Rather, it came from his 9 years of fighting and subduing the Apache from 1861 to 1872. On the one hand he seemed to respect their expertise, patience, and bravery. On the other, he considered them cruel reprobates with few morals.

”You are and must ever remain, to him, an object of suspicion and distrust. You are understood to be his natural enemy, and all his faculties are awakened against your advances. Treasuring up his own vengeful purposes for months and years, he imputes to you the same, or kindred intention of doing him ultimate harm. No effort, no kindness on your part, can induce him to disabuse his mind of this idea, because he is not capable of such magnanimity, and regards it as the finest stroke of duplicity. Trained to treachery, he is ever on his guard against it in others”.


It seems unarguable that the Apache left a great deal of destruction and mayhem on those within, or just outside its borders, though this seems hardly unique to any group who feels they’ve been invaded.

Cremony seemed to think that relations between the Americans and Apaches was only resolvable through cataclysm. Part of that analysis was that both parties felt superior to the other, and thus intransigent. Moreover, Judeo-Christian sensibilities seemed absolutely crazy to the Apache. Turning the other cheek when smitten? That’s what a fool would do. Likewise, ”to instruct him that it is criminal to deprive other people of their property, is to inform him that it is his duty to starve in order that his enemy may prosper”.

The Apache particularly seemed to despise the Mexicans. If their described brutality was true however, their subjugation probably made life better for countless women, both non-Apache and Apache. The author’s observations made him believe that most women were treated terribly (despite doing all the work!)

”One day an Apache woman died in camp, and I asked Gian-nah-tah if there would be much lamentation. He simply smiled at the idea, and replied: "It was a woman; her death is of no account."


Of course, it’s hard to discern what’s exaggerated, and to what extent, from an author’s clearly skewed perspective more than 150 years ago. For example, the author knew a troublesome chief known as Mangas Colorado, who was killed after riding under a flag of truce into a U.S. army camp and arrested. The author matter-of-fact restates the official report that the chief was killed after trying to “escape”. Many historians now consider that simple explanation to be blatantly implausible.
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139 reviews1 follower
November 27, 2016
Being an Apache who is always interested in learning the history of my people and the land while also living in modern day Arizona, this account breathes life into my existing knowledge of the earth surrounding me and its peoples from long ago. When I look to the east mountains, I can envision the battles and marches that took place in the Dragoons. When I look to the northeast, I feel the pains of those Apaches pushed into the region by the powerful Comanche. Each direction I turn I can feel the past come to life.
I truly appreciate the effort the author has put into this account of the Apaches. I appreciate his effort to perceive them as intelligent and clever humans and not merely savages. And with the latter good hearted tone of the author throughout the book, I am both surprised and confused as to his final assertion that the Apache should be eradicated...?
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6 reviews2 followers
January 23, 2020
This book is as revealing about late 19th century Frontier European-Americans as about the Apache. The author transitions from undisguised disgust of the Apache, to obsequious admiration, and back to advocating for their total destruction as unrepentant scoundrels. If you can get beyond the author's interpretations of what motivates the Apaches' way of life (e.g. Cremony's assertion that every seemingly altruistic act by an Apache is performed with the cycnical expectation of future gain from that act - which is probably true of most every people and culture), to focus on his actual descriptions of that way of life, a lot can be learned about the Apache in that time period.
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Author 6 books51 followers
July 25, 2024
Not quite what I expected. Given the title, I expected John Cremony to be living among the Apaches and learning from them and adopting their ways. However, John wrote it from his military perspective while being assigned to the Arizona and New Mexico territories and encountering the Apaches on a regular basis.

John provides a great amount of detail about the life of the Apaches that should have been taken to heart by more of the American government. Alas, that didn't happen. Still, it's a great look into the life of the Apache.

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Profile Image for Richard Croner.
112 reviews3 followers
December 15, 2017
This is an excellent book if you have more than a passing interest in the Apaches as a nation and individual characteristics. The way this country treated them was and is deplorable. The similarities between our actions as a country then and more recently in Viet Nam, Afghanistan, and Iraq (to name just a few) is stunning. The observations of the U.S. Calvary officer, author of the book, were true to life and to this reader, spot on. I believe in fairness and it is about time that the United States applies that concept.
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226 reviews1 follower
December 9, 2016
A very enlightening read about the western US during the time of the Apaches.

This book was written in the late 1800's and tells of the war with the various tribes of the Apache. The author was an officer in the CA army and was very active in his duties. I found the book a much more authentic description of the government's ineffective handling of the countries native people. the author ended his book with his take on how it needed change and why we were so long.
7 reviews1 follower
December 17, 2016
Excellent

Will give you insights you will not get in school! First hand experience , until you have it you will never learn.
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267 reviews
April 2, 2024
Picked this book up after Louis recommended it in his book, Education of a Wandering Man. John Cremony lived an exciting life!
10 reviews
May 29, 2024
Dated, of course, but still relevant as to US treatment with the tribes. I represented the White Mountain Apache Tribe for a number of years. Great people.
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73 reviews
November 2, 2016
Absolutely fascinating to read after lifetime of predjudice

As a 79 yr old born and raised close by, I learned so much from this document that resides in the Smithsonian. As a child my sister was not allowed to go alone down the streets of Stafford, arizona for fear 'the apache would get her.' Have come appreciate many aspects of their character like never before.
2 reviews1 follower
October 1, 2007
This is a great book written by a cavalry officer in the 1870's. He writes first hand accounts of his interactions with the Apache indians both in battle and later on as he talks with them on the reservations.
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35 reviews6 followers
May 3, 2016
Some scholars believe Captain John Cremony exaggerated many of his stories, especially his narrow escapes with the Apaches; nevertheless, he writes some riveting stories. Too, his overview of the Apache warrior's way of life is fascinating.
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5 reviews3 followers
August 6, 2012
One of the best practical guides to the tactical aspects of counter-guerrilla warfare I've ever read. Probably saved us from some tough situations. Also a well-written and interesting book about the earliest stages of US imperialism in the SW.
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Author 6 books3 followers
March 25, 2014
Excellent personal narrative and fairly timely recollections of officer in Ariz. & New Mexico. Striking stories of hardship; detailed, first-hand accounts of personalities and behavior of leading Apaches and of Apaches as a tribe. My copy is Time-Life Books reprint of 1868 ed.
13 reviews
July 1, 2016
Interesting history of some of our first peoples.

I had heard that the Apaches were wiley and clever and this first person narrative demonstrates how true that rumor is. An interesting, intelligent people.
35 reviews
November 2, 2016
Wonderful journal

This book started as a novelty with its formal dated language., but only serves to highlight the erudite words we are missing. The story's are exciting and instructive. A real insight to the way the American Indian was treated.
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