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Red Prophet (Tales of Alvin Maker #2)

3.77 of 5 stars 3.77  ·  rating details  ·  15,350 ratings  ·  377 reviews
Come here to the magical America that might have been
and marvel as the tale of Alvin Maker unfolds. The seventh son of a seventh son is a boy of mysterious powers, and he is waking to the mysteries of the land and its own chosen people.
Mass Market Paperback, 311 pages
Published July 15th 1992 by Tor Fantasy (first published 1988)
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Red Prophet by Orson Scott Card is the sequel to Card’s 1987 novel Seventh Son.

Like Ender's Shadow, the changed perspective sequel to Card’s masterpiece Ender's Game, Card demonstrates his great ability to tell a story from more than one vantage and can even expand this re-telling into another book.

Red Prophet continues the alternate American history began in Seventh Son and this time largely from the viewpoint of Lalawasike, known to most readers of American history as The Prophet, brother to
4.0 to 4.5 stars. A very unique, original fantasy (or alterniative history SF if you prefer) by one of the best writers around. Set in an alternative United States of the 19th century, this is a truly American fantasy tale. Wildly inventive and beautifully written. Highly Recommended.

Nominee: Hugo Award for Best Science Fiction Novel (1989)
Nominee: Nebula Award for Best Science Fiction Novel (1989)
Winner: Locus Award for Best Fantasy Novel (1989)
Nominee: Mythopoeic Fantasy Award for Adult Litera
Sep 11, 2007 Aaron rated it 1 of 5 stars
Recommends it for: Lovers of "noble savage" cliches
It's a shame that there are so few good alternate history books that I have been able to find. This one, Red Prophet is a prime example. The second part in the popular Alvin Maker series, it explores an alternate early 19th century America in which Oliver Cromwell's Puritanical revolution succeeded in the long run and frontier folk magic works.
So far, so good. I really enjoy the historical details that went into this work, the stories that get slipped in about Benjamin Franklin, George Washing
Jul 15, 2009 Werner rated it 5 of 5 stars
Recommends it for: Fantasy fans, and alternate-world fans
Card continues, in this second installment of his Alvin Maker series, to exhibit the same literary artistry that was evident in the first volume, Seventh Son (see my review of that title). There is no slackening of his excellent prose, credible characterization, and strong world- building. Where the first book revolved around Alvin and his family, however, this one finds him caught up in major events in his world.

In our world, the leaders of Native American resistance to White expansion in the O
In a lot of ways, this feels like the second half of a longer novel that should have been paired with "Seventh Son."

"Seventh Son" establishes the character of Alvin Miller, Jr. and the fact that he's the seventh son of a seventh son. "Red Prophet" expands the alternative history of the universe Card is creating, including a lot of time spent on the politics of the universe. Card also spends some time setting up the rules by which his fantasy will play during the rest of the series (or so I pres
It's a strange thing, but I've owned a copy of this book since my university days, and I'd obviously assumed that I'd read the book having previously rated it. However, once I came to read it again I realised that I'd not read it before at all. Quite why I'd managed to own an entire trilogy for nearly twenty years without reading beyond the first one is a mystery.

Red Prophet is the second in the original Alvin Maker trilogy – like Piers Anthony it seems that Card struggles to put a lid on a go
Althea Ann
The second in the Alvin Maker series.
Similar to what Card did in the 'Ender' series, this book starts off covering a lot of the same time period and events as the previous book, but taken from a different character's perspective. It also ventures further into 'alternate history' territory (and boy is it alternate!)
It's about the well-known Native American leader Tecumseh, and his brother Tenskwatawa, who was known as a prophet. (all true).
I have to say that I think the book would have worked bet
Awww...I was really excited to like this series since the 1st book was pretty great, but this book left me madder than hell. I think one star should reflect that I HATED IT.

One reviewer noted that The Alvin Maker series is a thinly veiled version of Joseph Smith's journey in America. I had heard that Card was a Mormon, but not knowing enough about Mormonism, I had never detected any sort of particular religious connotation in his writing. I was also surprised that a supposedly Christian sect (I
Dave Seah
I liked the first book the Alvin Maker series, Seventh Son well enough for its folksy look at a young alternative America, filled with homespun magic knacks and big families dreaming even bigger of a better life. In Red Prophet, we get to see the flipside of the white man's knackery compared to those of the red man. It's a fascinating portrait of good versus evil, drawn along the fault lines of selfishness, ambition, misplaced good intentions, ignorance, and principle. The characters in the book ...more
Read RED PROPHET for Alvin, his growing up, his kindness, and his family. Don't read it for the division between Reds and Whites. In Card's fantasy America, Reds are connected with the land as part of one body. They feel it and it supports them. Whites poison the land wherever they spread. Alvin accompanies Red general Ta-Kumsaw in a war against the Whites, a war which the Red Prophet understands will lead to the best solution possible for all the people living in North America.

Two good elements
Kat  Hooper
Originally posted at FanLit:

Red Prophet is the second book in Orson Scott Card’s THE TALES OF ALVIN MAKER, an alternate history set in a frontier America in which folk magic is real. In the first book, Seventh Son, we were introduced to the main protagonist of the series, Alvin Miller who, because he’s the seventh son of a seventh son, is a gifted healer. We meet Alvin as a baby and follow him into boyhood. At the end of the story he has a vision of a shin
Renée Johnson
I adored Seventh Son, but so far, Red Prophet has yet to catch my attention. It's likely that the horrific stereotyping and bigotry oozing from every page has something to do with it.
Material Lives
This book is so terrible that I cannot fathom how anyone not only finishes it but gives it anything more than 1 star. I love OSC's Ender and Bean series, but this book is poorly written, poorly researched, and poorly edited. Card has admitted that he can't be bothered to keep track of his plots and characters, and so his other series are always overrun with errors and inconsistencies, and his lack of interest in research is apparent in this silly work of "historical"fiction. What historical fict ...more
Daniel Fox
A book review of "Red Prophet" - by Orson Scott Card

Being the generational bi-product of the white and the red peoples (my great great (maybe one more great) grandmother walked the trail of tears- a full blooded Cherokee), this book was particularly startling/heart breaking to me. To see, even if contrived, Cards artists impression as seen through the eyes of the first and birthright citizens of the Americas: "The Red Man", I feel as though I finally understand some of the most hidden longings/p
I was pretty disappointed with this book. The first book in the series was a decent enough book, with focus on some average frontier settlers and some interesting happenings among them. The second book tried to leap onto a much broader stage and failed. Focusing on major historical figures far more than on real people, turning them into loathsome creatures with nothing to recommend them. I find it difficult to relate to anybody in this book because no common sense is shown by any of them. Everyo ...more
Wow this story is just getting better! It is incredibly interesting to see the way the 'reds' did things, so different than the way that the 'whites' did... So much pain and suffering, all because of a few. I am very curious about the 'visitor', and the little hints that the book leaves behind. I absolutely adore Taleswapper more and more. Alvin is just adorable and I'm happy to see his evolution as a character. One more awesome thing is how it inserts historical characters and contexts, and mix ...more
I had a hard time at the beginning of this book. But once I really got into it a couple of chapters, I really liked it. It's very Fictional History, but has a great story to tell. And for all you LDS readers out there. It's got a lot of BOM stories going on. I thought some of that was funny (even though I don't think he intended it to be).

I'll probably go back and read Seventh Son again because it's been so long. If I'm going to read the series I want to make sure I'm clear on the story line.
Mukta Mohapatra
In this alternate version of America, the Red Man is living with the land and the White Man is working against the land.

Napoleon Bonaparte is using his knack to try and take over while corrupt governors like Harrison are using people for their own personal gain.

Alvin and his brother Measure are heading out of town when they are captured by a group of Chock-taws. They beat them and make it seem like Takum-saw did it so that the men of Alvin's town will go to war with the peaceful followers of th
If I hadn't read book #1 and wasn't already intrigued with the storyline of Alvin I would have stopped reading this book. It turned out to be good in the end but OSCard did we really need the first 40 pages to be the most BORING conversation ever between two evil men? I kept saying, what about Alvin? I need to know what's happening to Alvin!!

But I did like the storyline about the Native Americans and reading about their magical powers, especially over the land. On to book #3!
Rebecca Workman
Enjoyable to imagine what a Native American experience might entail and to follow that thread and give flesh and bone to a people who have never truly been represented to me as anything other than stereotypes. It was good for me to shed immature thoughts and take on respect and endless possible explanations for who these Native American men and women might have been and why. Great storytelling with a strong control of pace balanced with detail/ philosophizing.
I generally enjoy the heck out of this author so this was a real disappointment. Two stars is generous. The racial dividers in this story are awful to the point of ridiculous. What's worse is that characters that I genuinely enjoyed in the first book are twisted so that they fit in to said racial divisions for story purposes. Not a very enjoyable read for me.
This one required more patience than the first book of the Alvin Maker series. "Harsher, bleaker and more mystical than Seventh Son," said one Amazon reviewer. Quite true.

I had to endure a great deal of Red Man talk about White Man bad, kill the land, go back on boat where come from. And I can't help but read a book as if were already a movie, which makes me puzzle over how the actor is going to say lines like "This is the oath of the land at peace" without wishing he'd been called up for a Peps
I read several of the Seventh Son (Alvin Maker series). I was looking for a book to go with the Seventh Son movie the was originally to be released in 2013, and ended up only finding this author's series online (I couldn't find the Spook's Apprentice series in digital form at the time) and this series is even worse than the Enders Game series. Again the author repeats descriptions or explanations of events, items or actions over and over and a story that just drags on and on for no reason. I lik ...more
Three and a half. More action and a native American perspective is added, but Alvin's character becomes a foil for the alternative history lesson. And sometimes it seemed like a history lesson.
Jun 28, 2008 June rated it 3 of 5 stars
Recommends it for: not sure
Recommended to June by: Elissa
Shelves: magic
Parts of this I really enjoyed, other times I put it down and left it for a while. I have a harder time with alternative history fiction. I also wonder how Native Americans would react to it.
(4 stars may be overly optimistic)

The first half deals with Lolla-Wossiky, and is good and entertaining.
The second half deals with everyone else, and isn't nearly as much.

The more I read of Alvin, the more annoying the boy becomes. The way Lolla first sees him (i.e. doesn't see him at all) is very apt - he's like an elemental force, and much like the Unmaker, but making him an actual person makes the story worse, in my opinion.

Might have been better to do it like Monty Python's Life of Brian ha
These books are amazing. Orson Scott Card, wow. To think I was disappointed at the beginning of the first book because it wasn't based in space or the future.
Me gusta la interpretación que hace de la cultura de los nativos americanos, pero lo considero casi un paréntesis en la saga de Alvin el Hacedor. No avanza prácticamente nada (*) y (posible spolier) en el siguiente libro parece haber olvidado mucho de lo aprendido con los pieles rojas. (me empecé a leer el 3 por error antes que el 2 y podría haber seguido sin problema)
Este Scott Card da la sensación de que quiere estirar la saga hasta el infinito y más allá XD

(*) suceden muchas cosas y muy inter
Miz Lizzie
On his way to be apprenticed as a blacksmith, Alvin and his brother Measure are captured by Reds. Only it's a little more complicated than that as the white governor is behind the plot. In the second book in the series, Alvin comes to know the Red way of life as the whites conspire to steal the land and the Reds look for a land of their own in the west.

I continue to enjoy the audiobook, well-read with a variety of voices for the characters, though I was as uninterested as I remember being the f
At first I didn't like it because of how racist the author seems to be against "The Reds." But that's because the characters are. The author is clearly on the side of the Native Americans in this story. And he doesn't portray them as bad or all good.

But it still isn't done very well. I particularly disliked the way that they think of themselves as "reds" even though that's a derogatory term and apparently think in the same choppy English they speak--even an Indian that is absolutely fluent in E
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Orson Scott Card is the author of the novels Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow, and Speaker for the Dead, which are widely read by adults and younger readers, and are increasingly used in schools.
Besides these and other science fiction novels, Card writes contemporary fantasy (Magic Street, Enchantment, Lost Boys), biblical novels (Stone Tables, Rachel and Leah), the American frontier fantasy series Th
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Tales of Alvin Maker (6 books)
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