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Wolverine: Origins (Collected Editions)
Wolverine: Origins, Volume 3: Swift and Terrible
Like father, like son?! Having finally seen his face, Wolverine sets out to rescue his son from the grasp of the shadow society that once enslaved him. But Logan's son doesn't want to be saved -- he wants revenge against Logan, the father who abandoned him!
Collecting: Wolverine Origins 11-15
Collecting: Wolverine Origins 11-15
120 pages, Hardcover
First published August 29, 2007
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September 19, 2018
Way brings back what I previously thought was a a dumb villain in Cypher and makes him interesting by tying him into Wolvie's untold history. Plus, Logan and Daken meet for the first time. Every time a writer tries to turn Daken into a good guy, I always think back to how much of a real bastard he was in this series. He was such an awful person, I don't know if Marvel can ever redeem him. I love Dillon's art in this series. The book is bloody and graphic with Wolvie really pissed off. In other words, how Wolverine should be.
January 10, 2016
Logan finally meets his adult son. His name is Daken. Daken knows all about his father. He wants to hurt Logan and he has the power to do it.
Swift and Terrible could be Daken's nickname. He has all of Logan's inherent strength, but none of his compassion or humanity. Daken likes hurting people. Logan's history unwinds a little bit more in this volume and it continues to be horrible. Logan's mutant power should be a gift, but instead it has turned into a curse as government project after government project have used his healing ability to mold him into a living weapon to unleash on their enemies.
This volume was just OK. So far Daken seems like a sociopath which makes him uninteresting. Logan was on his heels a lot in this volume and not much really caught my interest.
Swift and Terrible could be Daken's nickname. He has all of Logan's inherent strength, but none of his compassion or humanity. Daken likes hurting people. Logan's history unwinds a little bit more in this volume and it continues to be horrible. Logan's mutant power should be a gift, but instead it has turned into a curse as government project after government project have used his healing ability to mold him into a living weapon to unleash on their enemies.
This volume was just OK. So far Daken seems like a sociopath which makes him uninteresting. Logan was on his heels a lot in this volume and not much really caught my interest.
July 6, 2021
This was a fun one. It starts off with Cyber a former Wolverine teacher and villain takes over some kids body and he goes after Wolverine whose meanwhile battling his son and sort of loses but then enter this guy and complications arise. Wolverine manages to subdue him in one way and asks him for information on whats going on and we learn a bit about his past, his meeting with wolverine and how a guy called "Hudson" maybe behind his troubles and all that. Plus enter Winter Soldier.
Great volume and it has massive ramifications going forward. We learn of Daken and all that and see how SOB he really is and its fun seeing their fight and then Cyber. I like how Way is slowly revealing things and connecting them in some strange slow way and the art is great. Smooth and simple on the eyes. Also great focus on Wolverine being a spy and using it to escape.
Great volume and it has massive ramifications going forward. We learn of Daken and all that and see how SOB he really is and its fun seeing their fight and then Cyber. I like how Way is slowly revealing things and connecting them in some strange slow way and the art is great. Smooth and simple on the eyes. Also great focus on Wolverine being a spy and using it to escape.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
November 10, 2012
I would normally try and summarise the book but I don’t really have to with this one - look at the cover. That’s basically it. Daken is Logan’s son, they meet, Daken hates Logan, they fight. There is a sub-plot involving a Marvel villain called Cyber which wasn’t bad as Logan needed someone to give him info on Daken but given Cyber’s lack of presence in the series overall, all his backstory sequences felt a bit pointless. Still entertaining though.
And that’s what this book is - entertaining. Daniel Way writes Wolverine intelligently. Like the opening sequence where I saw the armed guards massing outside the door as Wolverine woke up wondering where he was, I rolled my eyes thinking “here we go again...” only to be pleasantly surprised with Way’s decision to give Wolverine more of an empathetic approach to his enemies and let them live. Way manages to extricate Wolverine from danger cleverly rather than the usual berserker approach where Wolverine snikts his way through walls of enemies.
Some people have a problem with Steve Dillon’s art but not me, I think he’s great and I loved his artwork in this. Nobody draws pissed off quite like Dillon. While the book is obviously part of a larger storyline, it’s still worth picking up for some great sequences and further character development of the ruthless Daken. It’s also a standout for being one of the few Wolverine books where Logan doesn’t kill anyone. While the book may be a swift read, it’s far from terrible, and well worth it if you’re a Wolverine fan.
And that’s what this book is - entertaining. Daniel Way writes Wolverine intelligently. Like the opening sequence where I saw the armed guards massing outside the door as Wolverine woke up wondering where he was, I rolled my eyes thinking “here we go again...” only to be pleasantly surprised with Way’s decision to give Wolverine more of an empathetic approach to his enemies and let them live. Way manages to extricate Wolverine from danger cleverly rather than the usual berserker approach where Wolverine snikts his way through walls of enemies.
Some people have a problem with Steve Dillon’s art but not me, I think he’s great and I loved his artwork in this. Nobody draws pissed off quite like Dillon. While the book is obviously part of a larger storyline, it’s still worth picking up for some great sequences and further character development of the ruthless Daken. It’s also a standout for being one of the few Wolverine books where Logan doesn’t kill anyone. While the book may be a swift read, it’s far from terrible, and well worth it if you’re a Wolverine fan.
March 4, 2021
Wolverine: Origins continues to be a solid series with volume 3 - Swift & Terrible. A continuation of my Wolverine revisit.
As you’ll be able to tell from the cover, the mystery surrounding Logan’s son becomes clearer. Enter Daken. He seems an even darker and sinister character than what we have seen from Logan himself. He makes for a good counterpoint and villain character.
There is still plenty of mystery going on however. We don’t know who Daken is working for, and what their end goal is. We also see a more intelligent approach from Wolverine here, not his usual slice through everyone approach. It was refreshing to see that, rather than the use claws first, ask questions later.
We also have the character Cyber introduced into the story. Like previous volumes we get flashbacks and see how that character ties with Logan’s backstory and origin, as well as the present day plot.
The artwork continues to also be solid and consistent with the previous volumes.
So far Wolverine: Origins is an enjoyable run on the character, with plenty of mystery and questions to still be resolved. There is also a decent amount of action too.
As you’ll be able to tell from the cover, the mystery surrounding Logan’s son becomes clearer. Enter Daken. He seems an even darker and sinister character than what we have seen from Logan himself. He makes for a good counterpoint and villain character.
There is still plenty of mystery going on however. We don’t know who Daken is working for, and what their end goal is. We also see a more intelligent approach from Wolverine here, not his usual slice through everyone approach. It was refreshing to see that, rather than the use claws first, ask questions later.
We also have the character Cyber introduced into the story. Like previous volumes we get flashbacks and see how that character ties with Logan’s backstory and origin, as well as the present day plot.
The artwork continues to also be solid and consistent with the previous volumes.
So far Wolverine: Origins is an enjoyable run on the character, with plenty of mystery and questions to still be resolved. There is also a decent amount of action too.
May 18, 2018
So Daken, Wolvie's son, is revealed at last. Oh, he's swift and terrible, no doubt, but being a certified psychopath just doesn't make him that great a character. I knew next to nothing about him and can't say I was greatly impressed by this revelation.
Not the best volume so far though enjoyable enough. Half of it is Daken vs Wolvie, Daken vs Cyber- never heard of him- Wolvie vs Cyber. I think Steve Dillon's art is not suited and kind of undermines any attempt at violence and dramatic intensity.
The rest is more interesting, memories from a century ago hinting at the bigger picture that's blooming. Since I actually don't know what's going to happen, even though the book was released 10 years ago, my interest is quite up.
Not the best volume so far though enjoyable enough. Half of it is Daken vs Wolvie, Daken vs Cyber- never heard of him- Wolvie vs Cyber. I think Steve Dillon's art is not suited and kind of undermines any attempt at violence and dramatic intensity.
The rest is more interesting, memories from a century ago hinting at the bigger picture that's blooming. Since I actually don't know what's going to happen, even though the book was released 10 years ago, my interest is quite up.
March 3, 2010
Man has son. Son want kill father. The story of Daken and Wolverine is simple, but efficient.
August 21, 2022
3.5 Stars
In this volume, Wolverine and Daken finally meet up, and Cyber reappears. We also get some background information on Cyber, who also played a big part in Wolverine's past.
I've said in prior reviews I'm not a fan of retconning, but I suppose if the idea is Wolverine just never remembered any of this, is it really retconning? Instead maybe this is just the story finally being told, or at least that's one way to look at it. I just think it's odd how it seems like almost every event in Wolverine's life has been orchestrated by...well, we don't know who yet.
Still, at its core this is a cool story with nice art from Steve Dillon, so the best thing to do is not to overthink things and just enjoy the ride.
In this volume, Wolverine and Daken finally meet up, and Cyber reappears. We also get some background information on Cyber, who also played a big part in Wolverine's past.
I've said in prior reviews I'm not a fan of retconning, but I suppose if the idea is Wolverine just never remembered any of this, is it really retconning? Instead maybe this is just the story finally being told, or at least that's one way to look at it. I just think it's odd how it seems like almost every event in Wolverine's life has been orchestrated by...well, we don't know who yet.
Still, at its core this is a cool story with nice art from Steve Dillon, so the best thing to do is not to overthink things and just enjoy the ride.
February 15, 2012
I really want to give this book like a 3.5--there are a lot of things I like about it. I like the overall mystery and, as I've said in previous reviews, the flashback-heavy styling. I definitely appreciate that Way is actually trying to make some sense out of Wolverine's backstory--no easy task. But a couple of things in this one bothered me. The art is as -meh- as it has been in the previous books, always distracting. But my real problem is with the run-in between Daken and Wolverine. For some reason, it just doesn't make sense to me that Wolverine gets beat so badly. Isn't he sort of the baddest on the block? It just seemed forced, like a poorly-thought-out plot device. Now, if it was a little more explicit that Wolverine was holding back, then maybe...
Anyway, Cyber is reintroduced briefly and dealt with. I was never really intrigued by the character, but dealing with old enemies does seem to be central to the series, and it was done well enough here. (But what exactly are Cyber's powers? He makes others do bad stuff? He is a tracker of some sort? No, a telepath...?) Anyway, other than those minor complaints, still an ambitious Wolverine story, if not quite a great one.
Anyway, Cyber is reintroduced briefly and dealt with. I was never really intrigued by the character, but dealing with old enemies does seem to be central to the series, and it was done well enough here. (But what exactly are Cyber's powers? He makes others do bad stuff? He is a tracker of some sort? No, a telepath...?) Anyway, other than those minor complaints, still an ambitious Wolverine story, if not quite a great one.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
June 17, 2018
Swift & Terrible (#11-15). The integrated backstory of the third Wolverine: Origins arc is a bit too obscure. It all comes from "Blood Hungry", a Wolverine arc that ran in Marvel Comics Presents #85-92, a story that's been out-of-print for about 20 years. It introduced Cyber, an example of the worst excesses of the '90s: he's a simplistic, violent killer that is drawn with lots of lines. As was so common in the '80s and '90s, the story apparently suggested that Cyber knew Logan in the past. But, I can say no more about what might have been in that original arc as the story is largely impossible to read at the moment.
"Swift & Terrible" gives us some nice background about Cyber and Logan in WWI and follows that up with an intriguing Department H tie-in that's mostly opaque, and also touches up an important woman named Janet who also originated in that MCP story ... and none of it makes much sense, not helped by the fact that Cyber is a dull foe. The only real greatness in this story is getting to actually meet Daken, though he mostly takes the role of remorseless killer [3/5].
"Swift & Terrible" gives us some nice background about Cyber and Logan in WWI and follows that up with an intriguing Department H tie-in that's mostly opaque, and also touches up an important woman named Janet who also originated in that MCP story ... and none of it makes much sense, not helped by the fact that Cyber is a dull foe. The only real greatness in this story is getting to actually meet Daken, though he mostly takes the role of remorseless killer [3/5].
October 19, 2013
Daken! The son of Wolverine is coming after his father, and it's going to be a nasty fight...
Just look at the cover, there's not much else I need to tell anyone that this cover doesn't illustrate.
We see that Daken is just as big a user as Logan was in his flashback days, and I love that they make him this deadly.
There's a link to another Weapon X/Team-X past, who will be involved in the story and show up in a later volume, and his presence helps the story move along, but this is almost entirely just the Dad/Son with claws show.
There's a very exciting last page reveal of someone else who's tied in with this all, and the potential for his involvement is very cool.
Great book, and as someone pointed out, this may have the lowest body count ever for a Wolverine book...he spares quite a few lives here, to show his character's growth and distancing from what he used to be/what Daken still is...
Just look at the cover, there's not much else I need to tell anyone that this cover doesn't illustrate.
We see that Daken is just as big a user as Logan was in his flashback days, and I love that they make him this deadly.
There's a link to another Weapon X/Team-X past, who will be involved in the story and show up in a later volume, and his presence helps the story move along, but this is almost entirely just the Dad/Son with claws show.
There's a very exciting last page reveal of someone else who's tied in with this all, and the potential for his involvement is very cool.
Great book, and as someone pointed out, this may have the lowest body count ever for a Wolverine book...he spares quite a few lives here, to show his character's growth and distancing from what he used to be/what Daken still is...
November 10, 2016
Worth reading. Features Silas Burr (Cyber) and the Tinkerer. Wolverine finds out more information about the agency that runs the Weapon X program. Daken is also a member of this program, and we see the organization pull Daken back from chasing his father because it has plans for him? Interesting.
March 12, 2009
Okay, I'm starting to have violent nightmares now.
February 24, 2022
I'm not quite sure why four stars is the common rating for this installment of Logan's history, but I'm here to try and bring the rating up a little bit. Honestly? This is great. The artwork is bloody, vicious, and startling which reflects most of the characters in this volume. Wolverine/Logan has discovered his past and his revenge seeking he discovers, also, that his son lives. We learn his name is Daken and he's a jerk, big time.
We still don't know who is pulling all the strings, but Logan's history takes a bit of a backseat to develop the tenuous relationship of Daken and his father. Additionally, I commend the writers for taking a previously lame villain in Cypher and actually make him useful and even a bit of a badass, though the bar is kind of high when it comes to the wrecking balls that are Logan and Daken.
I am continuously intrigued and entrenched in this story, which, in the end emerges this with five stars since I have very little to complain about. Maybe long-term Wolverine fans are a bit grossed out by Logan's less-than-aggressive feelings towards people, but it's always just bubbling at the surface, waiting to be released.
We still don't know who is pulling all the strings, but Logan's history takes a bit of a backseat to develop the tenuous relationship of Daken and his father. Additionally, I commend the writers for taking a previously lame villain in Cypher and actually make him useful and even a bit of a badass, though the bar is kind of high when it comes to the wrecking balls that are Logan and Daken.
I am continuously intrigued and entrenched in this story, which, in the end emerges this with five stars since I have very little to complain about. Maybe long-term Wolverine fans are a bit grossed out by Logan's less-than-aggressive feelings towards people, but it's always just bubbling at the surface, waiting to be released.
March 6, 2023
I picked up this volume from my local used bookstore. So, I’m not reading it in order. This affected my ability to understand the storyline, specifically, which entity is entering the body of another person. It was clear that Wolverine and his son are fighting. Daken believes he is superior to his father, Wolverine. The artwork is excellent. The color choices provide the atmosphere for doom and despair. I think the storyline would benefit from more writing to accompany the graphic fighting pictures. Wolverine has been one of my favorite characters due to his complexities, but there was not that depth in this publication. I wouldn’t reread this issue, but I will see if I can find the next issue. My hope is that the complexity will be back.
January 13, 2024
I mean. The story itself is interesting enough and I know time and place of when a story was written is important context to keep in mind— but Jfc how the intellectually disabled mutant was depicted and used was disgraceful. The fridging in this book was also at a PEEK. Like holy shit. I liked the last volume so much more
October 8, 2017
The better-ness continues....
This a fantastic introduction to Wolverine's son. The art continues to improve by looking Less stiff in the fight scenes. Writing continues to impress but it is still a little cardboard like.
This a fantastic introduction to Wolverine's son. The art continues to improve by looking Less stiff in the fight scenes. Writing continues to impress but it is still a little cardboard like.
February 13, 2018
Continuing the x-read of 2017/18...
Meh. Not a huge fan of Cyber and this introduction to Daken certainly doesn't wow me about him as a character, either.
This is a pretty boring volume overall. None of the stories really go much of anywhere and characterization is pretty flat.
Meh. Not a huge fan of Cyber and this introduction to Daken certainly doesn't wow me about him as a character, either.
This is a pretty boring volume overall. None of the stories really go much of anywhere and characterization is pretty flat.
October 31, 2020
Wolverine: Origin Vol. 3
Third book of this series is better than the first two. I didn't even know that Logan had a son. So the series so far interest me. So I can't wait to read the next book.
Third book of this series is better than the first two. I didn't even know that Logan had a son. So the series so far interest me. So I can't wait to read the next book.
March 6, 2022
Read for background during The X Lives & Deaths of Wolverine & Live of Wolverine event of 2020.
May 14, 2020
I loved this volume, it was fast paced and we learned about Daken more. The artwork is very good and suits the story. Can't wait to read more :)
December 16, 2021
Getting into Daken and really enjoying it so far.
February 20, 2025
High octane action since the first chapter. Good stuff. I don't really like the art though, it's one of those styles where everyone has basically the same face.
August 4, 2025
Wolverine used to be a jerk. Wolverine's son is a jerk. Wolverine did bad, nebulous things in the past for bad, nebulous people with bad, nebulous reasons.
In this book the story and the flashbacks are focused mostly on Cyber, but we also get to see Dakken for the first time since his cameo at the end of the last volume.
Shrug.
This series started with the moderately tacky, over-the-top story of Nuke, a villain whose life was ruined by Wolverine when he was a child. The person Cyber possesses in this volume has the mind of a child (written in the absolutely most trite way possible), and has his life destroyed. It's a cheap trick that we've basically already read in this series.
It's hard to care about any of the characters in this run, as Way is showing that they're all basically awful people who don't care for the innocent bystanders they slaughter to get their revenge. It's more like a story for Garth Ennis's The Boys than an X-Men spin-off. The longer it goes on, the more I wish it would end.
In this book the story and the flashbacks are focused mostly on Cyber, but we also get to see Dakken for the first time since his cameo at the end of the last volume.
Shrug.
This series started with the moderately tacky, over-the-top story of Nuke, a villain whose life was ruined by Wolverine when he was a child. The person Cyber possesses in this volume has the mind of a child (written in the absolutely most trite way possible), and has his life destroyed. It's a cheap trick that we've basically already read in this series.
It's hard to care about any of the characters in this run, as Way is showing that they're all basically awful people who don't care for the innocent bystanders they slaughter to get their revenge. It's more like a story for Garth Ennis's The Boys than an X-Men spin-off. The longer it goes on, the more I wish it would end.
May 26, 2015
Another solid volume of this series. How can someone as cool as Wolverine have so annoying of a son? Daken is one of my least favorite Marvel characters I've come across thus far. Fortunately, him being annoying does not harm this story too much. I am enjoying how Wolverine's past slowly gets filled in over the course of each story arc and I'm looking forward to Captain America next volume as well.
February 29, 2016
Apart from the disappointing art, this was an interesting introduction to Daken as a character, along with the return of Cyber, a character which I knew about, but didn't have much experience with. I appreciated the time spent detailing his past, and setting up his new incarnation. The story was dark and violent, like you would expect in a Wolverine story, and the story moved forward, while still retaining a good deal of mystery.
August 9, 2016
I was never a big Cyber fan, so that subplot of how he was involved in training Wolvie during his mysterious past really didn't go anything for me. The mistake he make when choosing a body to take over was a pretty good, I just don't care enough about him for it to matter all that much.
The more important part of this volume was Wolvie's first fight with his son, Dakken. And really, that's the majority of the book. I really like the dynamic here.
The more important part of this volume was Wolvie's first fight with his son, Dakken. And really, that's the majority of the book. I really like the dynamic here.
November 5, 2014
How would it be if a son hates his father for abandoning him and the father wants to set things right? The only difference from any other similar father - son issue is that the father happens to be a living weapon called Wolverine and the son has been cursed with similar prowess to kill.
Enthralling plot that just keeps getting better.
Enthralling plot that just keeps getting better.
August 9, 2022
This volume collects Wolverine: Origins #11-15. The intensity has hit a peak. I've only really watched the X-Men and Wolverine movies so I had no idea he had a son. This is all new to me and thus exciting. The artwork is pretty consistent throughout these volumes. I have to say that the actor who plays Logan in the wolverine movies fits the artwork very well. As always, looking forward to more.
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