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(Foreigner #2)

4.17  ·  Rating details ·  4,079 ratings  ·  144 reviews
The first book in C.J.Cherryh's eponymous series, Foreigner, begins an epic tale of the survivors of a lost spacecraft who crash-land on a planet inhabited by a hostile, sentient alien race. From its beginnings as a human-alien story of first contact, the Foreigner series has become a true science fiction odyssey, following a civilization from the age of steam through earl ...more
Paperback, 456 pages
Published February 1st 1996 by DAW
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Mar 26, 2013 rated it it was amazing
This SF series is continuing to prove itself one of the most enduring and fascinatingly social of all the hard SF's I've ever read. Book two seems to pick up very well with similar or perhaps improved pacing from the previous one, but instead of focusing so much on the linguistics issues, Bren finds himself with ever increasing responsibility and power within the Atevi world, much to the everlasting chagrin of his "people" on the island of humans.

Did he go native, selling out the other humans? H
Feb 21, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: sci-fi
This series has a way of involving me in the characters that I find immersive. It rarely has any action to speak of, and the action scenes it does have remind me of the ones that came before them. I find the main character Bren, engaging, however, and the highly detailed world of the alien Atevi keeps getting more fleshed out as the book progresses. I found myself wanting to continue the series in order to rejoin the world, and leave my own for awhile. That is mostly why I read anyway.
Bren is an
Mar 23, 2018 rated it really liked it
The second novel in Cherryh’s long running series picks up shortly after the first one ended, with the political situation in both Mospheira and Shejidan upended by the return of the Phoenix. Bren has to find a way to introduce the crew of the Phoenix to the cultural balancing act between human and atevi while contending with his upstart successor-in-waiting creating unrest in the atevi capital as his own government stonewalls him.
A good deal of the tension and mystery of its predecessor has be
Sep 14, 2016 rated it really liked it
Bren-paidhi has returned from hasty medical attention on the human island of Mospheira back into the political hotbed of the capital of the atevi Eastern Association Shejidan. The aiji of the Eastern Association, Tabini, desperately needs his linguistic and political skills because Bren's temporary replacement has charged into the delicate atevi politics and culture like a bull in a china shop.

This is not the proving ground and interrogation of Malguri. This is Shejidan, and Tabini implicitly tr
Cathy (cathepsut)
I like this much better than the first book. Bran Cameron, the annoyingly whiny navel-gazer from the first book, has grown. Oh, he is still somewhat preoccupied with his mail and wracked with self-doubt, but he has managed to become a more likeable person for me. There are still long stretches of the mentioned navel-gazing, or rather long stretches of introspection, philosophical quandaries over differing perceptions and cultural concepts of two very different species. But somehow all of this st ...more
Nov 04, 2016 rated it really liked it

Invader carries on from the events of Foreigner, dealing with the deep repercussions of the arrival of the Phoenix on both the Humans and the atevi.

This was a much better reading experience, and I found myself trying to snatch time to get back to the novel. Not sure if this was due to my being invested now in this world and its inhabitants or to the book itself and its structure and pacing. Probably both.

Cherryh's writing style is amazing but requires some getting used to. Indeed, she focuses
J L's Bibliomania
Sep 04, 2016 rated it liked it
Shelves: 2016-reads, adult, sf
I'd forgotten just how quickly time moves at the beginning of the Foreigner series. In the week or so covered by the second installment, Invader, we quickly move from injured paidhi Bren Cameron being summarily summoned back to the mainland to resume his position as the human speaker/translator to the native aliens to the excitement surrounding the landfall of the envoys from the returned colony ship.

I love how C.J Cherryh brings her linguistic background to this world and plays with the idea of
House Hesson
Nov 02, 2010 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: owned
This series benefits greatly from being read in order, so, soon-to-become-standard warning: We won't give spoilers for the specific book in its review, but we do assume you're up to date on the series to that point.

Bren's actions in Malguri have made him a hero by atevi standards, as well as a fool, but it does him little good. The book opens with him fresh out of surgery on Mospheira, headed back to Shejidan and pumped full of pain medications. His body will be fine but his life is, as he's abo
Melinda Snodgrass
Mar 22, 2011 rated it liked it
So I read the first book in this series, FOREIGNER, and I had problems with it because the protagonist was basically luggage through the entire book, and he whined a lot. Which given the protagonist of my EDGE books is an odd complaint from me because Richard can be a little uncertain and insecure. There was an awful lot of navel gazing too. Still the world building and the alien culture were fascinating.

I didn't intend to go on with the series, but I couldn't quit thinking about Bren and the at
I enjoyed both Foreigner #2 and #3, but not as much as book 1. A common complaint about these books is the amount of repetition (Our Hero, Bren Cameron, mulls thoughts over Again and Again and Again) -- and though I didn't mind it in the first book, that tendency did start to get old. Also, I started having more and more difficulty suspending my disbelief over story elements (like the claim that there's a billion or so Atevi and only ONE human interpreter for ALL of them), and by book 3 I was al ...more
Apr 01, 2016 rated it liked it
Shelves: scifi
So this was kind of complicated for me. There were some aspects of this book that I really liked, but there were some I was less than excited about. I also strangely liked the first third or so of the book the most, while the middle was less interesting, and the ending actually dragged for me. Usually when a sequel's events directly follows the end of the previous book the first part of said sequel is often a boring tying up of loose ends. Somehow, this book reversed that. Instead it felt as if ...more
Kaushik Iyer
Jan 10, 2015 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: read-in-2015
If Foreigner is about Alienness and loneliness, then Invader is a wonderful story about the start of connection and communication.

I'm starting to see why Jo Walton talks about this series as being similar to A Suitable Boy in its ability to describe rich, internally consistent characters who feel real. By the end of this book, Ilisidi feels like someone you know and understand. Jago and many of the other Atevi still feel foreign, but you start to feel like you can predict how they'll react and w
Oct 19, 2008 rated it it was amazing
I love the Foreigner series! This series is great Sci-Fi, alien culture, and political intrigue all rolled into one.
Aug 24, 2018 rated it did not like it
Life is too short to read boring books.
Jan 11, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Cherryh does really extraordinary stuff when it comes to both the big picture world building - imagining an entire people, culture, language and how it would interact in complex political and social ways with an isolated but thriving and independent group of humans who landed on that world. And then the contrast of the deep interiority of the one human whose point of view the reader is immersed in completely. It's amazing.

The first book in this series was kind of irritating to me because of tha
Jan 28, 2011 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: science, signed, fiction
Review: Invader (Foreigner 2) by C. J. Cherryh [return](ISBN 0886776384)[return][return]When Bren Cameron is rushed from surgery back to the high court of the alien Atevi, he knows there has to be something drastic going on. And he's right. The woman who replaced him, Deana Hanks, is not at all qualified to work in the position of Paidhi. Her interests are purely and politically human, and Bren can't decide if she's incompetent or malicious. Whatever the answer, she's stirred up a hornets' nest ...more
Aug 02, 2017 rated it liked it
Screwed over, screwed up, and now the great holy Ship was back, offering paradise in space and the sun.

The second book in Foreigner series furthers the plot concerning a turning point in human-alien relations on an alien world, where the humans are tolerated at best, and shoot at in other cases. There are now two human diplomats, and a returned human spaceship to complicate matters further. Also, our protagonist Bren faces some pretty important questions himself, about the nature of loyalty, att
Feb 19, 2010 rated it really liked it
Shelves: science-fiction
Well, the Goodreads description is about useless for book 2 of the Foreigner series.

The premise of the book is pandhi Bren Cameron is hastily called back to the Atevi government and politics when the starship Phoenix suddenly appears in the sky above the planet after a 200 year absence. Bren must now deal with an Atevi population who fears the ship is going to burst upon them with death rays, his predecessor Diana Hanks presence which is in violation of the Treaty established after Phoenix aban
Shawna Coronado
Dec 23, 2016 rated it liked it
Shelves: scifi
I am interested in the characters, but find the politics difficult and uninteresting.
Ted Cooper
Jul 26, 2017 rated it liked it
The burn is so slow. Glacial. It is strangely meditative to watch Bren freak out in paranoid circles for a while, decide he knows what's going on, and later realize he got it about half right, over and over and over again. Names and words and ideas gain surreal intensity as they are repeated over, and over, and over again. Banichi and Jago's even-keeled wit and consistent unwillingness to take the bait when Bren tries to make things interpersonally weird soothes us time after time, whispering to ...more
Minki Pool
Nov 23, 2015 rated it really liked it
I don't know what it is with these books. Again, very little happened. Bren obsesses about cultural differences. Bren writes letters and attends meetings. Bren obsesses more. Bren gets shot at a bit, which, again, wasn't the fascinating part of the book. There is some travelling. Some playing of darts. Some bro-crushing on Bren's part, followed by some more obsessing about the fact that his bros can't and won't crush back because they're not human. More obsessing about politics. There is awkward ...more
May 28, 2014 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: science-fiction
I thought this book was much faster paced than the first in the series. Bren still spends a lot of time inside his own hear, second guessing what he's done, but his backbone if firming!

I'm listening to this series and enjoy the narrator. The world building has been great so far. This second in the series does end rather abruptly and is a real cliffhanger. I have purchased the next two installments, but will likely let a couple of months pass before moving to the next. I am enjoying the series.
Mar 27, 2009 rated it really liked it
Shelves: science-fiction
This review is probably best seen as a recap of my thoughts about the second and third books in this series. It will assume you’ve read Foreigner. It will actually mention some major plot points from Invader and Inheritor too. There will be spoilers. You have been warned. If you’re curious about and/or new to the series, go read my review of Foreigner instead, because most of what follows will a) be spoiler-y and b) probably not make a whole lot of sense to you.

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Krista D.
Dec 15, 2016 rated it really liked it
I listened to the entire audiobook yesterday; I couldn't wait to see what happened next. The pacing was very swift, though there was a weird lull towards the very end of the book just before the final conflict started. It went on longer than I would have suspected, but the pace picked up again very quickly. Ended on a cliffhanger, so now I need to get the next ASAP.
Snail in Danger (Sid) Nicolaides
Okay, this hooked me in a little more. And, of course, it has a gorgeous Michael Whelan cover, which certainly doesn't hurt. But it was still ... not quite right, with regard to the juggling of exposition, emotional plot elements, and political plot elements.
Jul 29, 2011 rated it really liked it
Really good. C.J. Cherryh just has a way of making a whole society and culture come to life. Very unique and original. I'm excited to read the next one.
Ian Suddreth
Jul 01, 2015 rated it really liked it
I love the characters and the characterization of the the different species. Very fun story. There was some inner monologue stuff that I skipped, but I think the series will be lots of fun.
Stopped at around 30%

I read the first book  not too long ago and thought it was okay, if a bit tedious and boring, but since I like long series and politics in space, I decided to push on with the second book. People kept saying the series gets better later on. So yeah, why not? Turns out, they're wrong. j/k. They're only sort of wrong. The writing is still tedious and boring, but less so than the first book, and a lot of plot elements set up in the first book are brewing with the promise of re
Cherryh has a way of weaving a tale and painting a picture, to mix my analogies, that leaves me, as a reader, entirely in awe and so lost in the patina of the experience that I take no notice whatsoever of her technique or style or voice, but only the resultant characters and world. There are admittedly moments when I'm not sure who's talking until after the words are spoken, but it's fascinating that the wall of unbroken prose isn't daunting to read in the least. Perhaps it's simply because I f ...more
Ken Richards
Aug 04, 2017 rated it really liked it
Cherryh leads the reader on a tense and exhilarating ride as diplomat Bren Cameron navigates the shoals of intrigue and treachery revealed by the reappearance after two centuries of the lost starship Phoenix in the heavens above the earth of the atevi.

Cherryh's skill is in keeping us inside the head of paidhi Bren Cameron as he thinks his way through the thicket of conflicting loyaties and cultural clashes and misunderstandings which litter the landscape. The reader learns the culture of the ate
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Currently resident in Spokane, Washington, C.J. Cherryh has won four Hugos and is one of the best-selling and most critically acclaimed authors in the science fiction and fantasy field. She is the author of more than forty novels. Her hobbies include travel, photography, reef culture, Mariners baseball, and, a late passion, figure skating: she intends to compete in the adult USFSA track. She began ...more

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“But his political sense kept up a persistent itch that said: A, Given ignorance in the mix, stupidity was at least as common in politics as astute maneuvering; B, Crisis always drew insects; and, C, Inevitably the party trying to resolve a matter had to contend with the party most willing to exploit it.” 12 likes
“Tabini was at least canny enough in the differences between atevi and human to know that, gut level, he might think he understood - but chances were very good that he wouldn't, couldn't, and never would, unaided by the paidhi, come up with the right forecast of human behavior because he didn't come with the right hardwiring. Average people didn't analyze what they thought: they thought they thought, and half of it was gut reaction.” 8 likes
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