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Vegans, vegetarians, and meat eaters can feel like they’re living in different worlds. Many vegans and vegetarians struggle to feel understood and respected in a meat-eating culture, where some of their most pressing concerns and cherished beliefs are invisible, and where they are often met with defensiveness when they try to talk about the issue. They can become frustrate ...more
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Published November 12th 2017 by Roundtree Press
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Peacegal
Aug 15, 2018 rated it really liked it
Are veg*ns and their meat-eating partners, family members, and friends destined for hurt feelings and clashes over mealtime, or is there a way for everyone to navigate this fork in the road? Melanie Joy writes with authority and compassion to both audiences in BEYOND BELIEFS.

Joy draws heavily from various approaches to relationship psychology and also the sociological ideas she presented in her earlier and better-known work, WHY WE LOVE DOGS, EAT PIGS, AND WEAR COWS.

The natural audience for BEYO
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Hailey
Feb 24, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I wish this book had been available many years ago while I was going through STS. I had no idea that was what I had until I read her book now. I drifted away from the animal rights circle after working as a full-time activist for 5 years because even though I saw my organization and I making progress and gaining victories, I wasn't happy with my state of being at the time and the way I saw many fellow vegans communicate the cause. To me, violence is violence and it doesn't matter if it's to anim ...more
Andrea
Dec 04, 2017 rated it it was amazing
This may be the greatest book on psychology, relationships and communication I ever read. It is not only a very important book for every vegan and vegetarian and those who are in relationships with them but for everyone who is interested in improving their relationships and their lives. It helped me a lot to understand and accept the people around me and my past-self and it encourages me to continue working on my interactions and arguments with others. Especially the appendix is so helpful and h ...more
Bobby
Apr 02, 2018 rated it really liked it
Unlike Dr. Melanie Joy's book Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows, I did not find Beyond Beliefs to be a fast read. It was a bit more work but well worth the effort. Beyond Beliefs is an insightful and constructive read geared especially for vegans who struggle to some degree in how to be in a relationship with a non-vegan. That said, it's also a book based on the doctor's thorough understanding of psychology and the principles found in this book could be helpful to nearly anyone.
Noelle
Feb 12, 2019 rated it it was amazing
I wish everyone would read this book about how to have better relationships and conversations with people they disagree with. Appendix 6, 7, & 8 are especially amazing: sample letters from a vegan to a non vegan, requesting to be a vegan ally, to be heard, and to be respected. Everything here would apply to differing political or religious beliefs, etc, as well.
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"Vegans, vegetarians, and meat eaters can feel like they’re living in different worlds. Many vegans and vegetarians struggle to feel understood and respected in a meat-eating culture, where some of their most pressing concerns and cherished beliefs are invisible, and where they are often met with defensiveness when they try to talk about the issue. They can become frustrated and struggle to feel connected with meat eaters. And meat eaters can feel disconnected fro
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Alyson Fortowsky
Feb 12, 2019 rated it it was amazing
Where was this book six years ago?

It is already completely reshaping how I approach the topics of veganism and trauma by so precisely defining why I find them so difficult. It makes sense that vegans are taken less seriously because this is a feature of every non-dominant group who goes against a dominant ideology. It makes sense that vegans are not only traumatized by what they witness, but also by the failure of those around them, who can't make the same connections, to take it seriously.

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Cora
Jan 21, 2018 rated it it was amazing
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Practical frameworks and concrete examples using real-life situations. Applicable to all types of relationships - from your partner, to coworkers, to parents or siblings, to a stranger in line or on the bus. Applicable to any value-based ethic or ideology, not just veganism, to promote respectful understanding as the goal in discussions and interactions with people unfamiliar with the values behind the outward choice or stance. Found multiple kernels of wisdom to take with me.
Callie
Feb 24, 2019 rated it really liked it
It took me a while to get into it. I bought this book expecting it to be an attack on carnism and helping me create dialogue in vegan favor. Once I realized it was an unbiased apporach to veg/non veg relationships I was able to apply it to real life situations I have encountered both in veg/non veg relationships as well as romantic, friend and family encounters.
Gill
Sep 10, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Thought provoking

I would recommend this book to everyone. Especially people that are in a relationship with only one person being vegan. I understand perspective from both sides now more clearly
Miriam
A great guide to compassionate communication, primarily aimed at vegans and their loved ones.
Kelsey S. Hock
Meh. Felt like any kind of relationship advice book and the specifically vegan parts could have been condensed a lot more. dnf. Her ted talk is 10/10 amazing though and worth seeing
Klaudia Roczeń
Learned a lot about how our differences when it comes to dietary choices affects our relationships, how to overcome it and feel even more connected. Awesome!
Agatha Glowacki
Feb 28, 2019 rated it liked it
Very in depth and analytic look at how to live with others in a world of carnism
Victor Alcazar Lopez
Aug 28, 2018 rated it it was amazing
Literally changed my life. Thank you, Mel!
Amy
I've been a vegan for 14 years and was vegetarian for a long time before that. I've never dated another vegan. I did date a vegetarian which make things easier. The last two guys I dated weren't all that respectful of my veganism. Yes, they ate the vegan meals I prepared and ate vegetarian when we we went out but they weren't at all interested in learning about veganism or in exploring anything. I'm not sure I have the capabilities to date someone so closed-minded in the future. I will likely no ...more
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Harvard-educated psychologist Dr. Melanie Joy is the world’s leading expert on the psychology of eating animals. Her work has been featured by national and international media outlets around the world, including the New York Times, the BBC, NPR, and ABC Australia. She is the author of the award-winning book Why We Love Dogs, Eat Pigs, and Wear Cows: An Introduction to Carnism, as well as Beyond B ...more
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