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Ve: Öyküler - Brezilya Şehir Öyküleri
Güngezgini adlı şaheserle gönüllerimizi titretip fethetmiş olan Fábio Moon ve Gabriel Bá, "Ve: Öyküler" adlı bir başka eserle daha karşımızda.
Ve: Öyküler
İkizler, bu hikâyelerde; yazar ve çizer rollerini bazen değiş tokuş ediyor, bazen ortaklaşa, bazen tek başlarına yaratıyorlar anlatılarını. Memleketleri Sao Paulo’nun şehir hayatının gerçeklerinden ve arka plandaki Latin Amerika büyüleyici gerçekçiliğinden beslenen, insan hayatına dair sayısız detayla dolu samimi öyküleri, ikilinin şimdiye dek basılmış en kişisel çalışmalarının toplandığı bu eşsiz külliyatta bir araya geliyor.
Ve: Öyküler
İkizler, bu hikâyelerde; yazar ve çizer rollerini bazen değiş tokuş ediyor, bazen ortaklaşa, bazen tek başlarına yaratıyorlar anlatılarını. Memleketleri Sao Paulo’nun şehir hayatının gerçeklerinden ve arka plandaki Latin Amerika büyüleyici gerçekçiliğinden beslenen, insan hayatına dair sayısız detayla dolu samimi öyküleri, ikilinin şimdiye dek basılmış en kişisel çalışmalarının toplandığı bu eşsiz külliyatta bir araya geliyor.
112 pages, Hardcover
First published June 14, 2006
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Fábio Moon
138 books448 followersFábio Moon is a Brazilian comic book artist, the twin brother of Gabriel Bá.
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May 14, 2021
Twin brothers Gabriel Ba and Fabio Moon excel at these slice of life stories, sometimes accompanied by some magical realism. These short stories really showcased how their styles differ, even going so far as to have each of them illustrate the same short story of a man going to pee in a bar and talking to each version of himself that travelled down a different path. My favorite story was of a man and woman meeting on a street randomly and deciding to spend the day together.
May 13, 2018
A very sweet and beautiful collection of short stories from the famous Brazilian twins. De:Tales didn’t hit me quite as hard as their masterful Daytripper, but nevertheless these stories are full of love and passion for life and art, just like Moon and Bá themselves.
February 28, 2017
Çok beğendim. Çizimleri hem sade hem hüzünlü. En çok "kahve için çok geç" öyküsünü beğendim.
January 14, 2023
Güngezgini ile kıyaslandığında beklenti altında kalıyor. Ama yine de siyah beyaz çizimlerle Bezilya’nın gündelik hayatını bambaşka öykülerle muazzam bir şekilde birleştirmişler. Sevdim.
March 23, 2021
Fantastic artists, mediocre writers.
May 25, 2018
Cenk Könül çevirisi "Ve: Öyküler - Brezilya Şehir Öyküleri" ikiz kardeşler Fábio Moon ve Gabriel Bá'nın harikası. Abartılı çizgiler, aksiyonlar, karakterler beklemeyin. O çizgi en sade nasıl çizilir, duygu, durum dolayısıyla öyküler en zarif nasıl anlatılır diye soruyorsanız bu kitaba bakın derim. Kısa olmasına rağmen doyurucu.
January 27, 2014
I really like Moon and Ba's artwork, but this isn't the best that I've seen from there. There's good reason for that. It looks like these are some of their earlier works. I'm sure Dark Horse published it because some of their later works have become popular, but I'm fine with that. Nothing here is bad, though a few of the short stories didn't really interest me. But the good ones are quite good, strange, often affecting slices of life. It isn't exactly Daytripper, I admit, but what is? Certainly worth a read if you already like the twins, but I doubt it would get you hooked on them and their art if you aren't.
October 30, 2012
These are comic book short stories by the incredible Brazilian artist/writer twins Gabriel Ba and Fabio Moon. While it doesn't measure up to their stunning graphic novel "Daytripper", this is still a brilliant book showcasing their talents of writing and drawing contemporary Brazilian society that comes to life as you read it and dances across your mind as you turn the pages.
The stories are a mixture of fact and fiction. In the opening dream sequence the two are young men standing before a door that leads to their future. A pixie and a talking bird stand before it urging them on despite neither man knowing what the future holds for them. The book takes this beautiful beginning and leads the reader through a series of vignettes that are purely marvellous.
The story of a man and a woman who meet in a bar and fall in love, told in wordless panels. A man and woman meet in the street and spend the day together, getting to know one another - but things take a turn for the extraordinary in the end. In a surreal story of a man going to pee in a bar toilet, he meets his past and present self as parallel worlds converge at the urinal. The story is drawn by both artists showing the subtle differences of their art and approach to comics as the story replays twice.
The book feels very much like a young man's book with most of the stories revolving around burgeoning relationships and love. The brothers merge this theme with their more ethereal stories in the best story of the book "Happy Birthday My Friend", where a dead friend's ghost is resurrected on his birthday. Ba and Moon masterfully show the different relationships each character had with the dead friend while celebrating all that we take for granted, making the reader hyper-aware of life seen through the eyes of someone who no longer has it.
The stories pop with energy and the reader will feel their heart swell as they read the book, so overwhelming is the joy and beauty of life portrayed on these pages. Fabio Moon's art is amongst the finest in comics. While "Daytripper" was a revelation, especially when Dave Stewart coloured it, here in black and white Moon uses the light and shadows to create the colours in your mind. He is without doubt a true master of his art and the stories without words will burn themselves into your soul.
I can't recommend the work of these two artists more highly. "Daytripper" is their masterpiece (so far, they're still in their 30s!) but "De:Tales" is a fine book as well foreshadowing many of the themes and ideas found in their later work. “De:Tales” is a superb comic book that deserves as big an audience as possible, it is simply a must-read.
The stories are a mixture of fact and fiction. In the opening dream sequence the two are young men standing before a door that leads to their future. A pixie and a talking bird stand before it urging them on despite neither man knowing what the future holds for them. The book takes this beautiful beginning and leads the reader through a series of vignettes that are purely marvellous.
The story of a man and a woman who meet in a bar and fall in love, told in wordless panels. A man and woman meet in the street and spend the day together, getting to know one another - but things take a turn for the extraordinary in the end. In a surreal story of a man going to pee in a bar toilet, he meets his past and present self as parallel worlds converge at the urinal. The story is drawn by both artists showing the subtle differences of their art and approach to comics as the story replays twice.
The book feels very much like a young man's book with most of the stories revolving around burgeoning relationships and love. The brothers merge this theme with their more ethereal stories in the best story of the book "Happy Birthday My Friend", where a dead friend's ghost is resurrected on his birthday. Ba and Moon masterfully show the different relationships each character had with the dead friend while celebrating all that we take for granted, making the reader hyper-aware of life seen through the eyes of someone who no longer has it.
The stories pop with energy and the reader will feel their heart swell as they read the book, so overwhelming is the joy and beauty of life portrayed on these pages. Fabio Moon's art is amongst the finest in comics. While "Daytripper" was a revelation, especially when Dave Stewart coloured it, here in black and white Moon uses the light and shadows to create the colours in your mind. He is without doubt a true master of his art and the stories without words will burn themselves into your soul.
I can't recommend the work of these two artists more highly. "Daytripper" is their masterpiece (so far, they're still in their 30s!) but "De:Tales" is a fine book as well foreshadowing many of the themes and ideas found in their later work. “De:Tales” is a superb comic book that deserves as big an audience as possible, it is simply a must-read.
July 11, 2012
These twin creators are some talented men. I find these stories at the same time engaging and breezy, natural and surprisingly well thought out. I'm particularly impressed by "Saturday", an incredibly dense story for something so short - it makes me want to get out of the house and *be*, and stay in the house and make an impact on the world through my hands, my mind or my yap.
These two take a sharp look at the world they inhabit and help us see the moments of life unfold. I can't quite convey what I mean - this is a simple book of short stories but somehow I'm feeling this is an important example of what these two are capable of doing for us - which is to make us feel what they're telling us, really inhabit the scenes.
It's also a nice revelation to find out what life in Brazil is like, and that (at least for the twins) it's very much something I recognize.
I particularly enjoyed seeing how their artistic styles slightly differed, but in visually interesting ways. I've known they're distinguished from each other but hadn't taken the time to figure out how. Bá has a very graphic design style - heavy lines and shadows - and Moon is more fluid and wispy. I love both styles, and it's a trip to see each of them give us their take on a story ("Reflections") that goes pretty meta when you stop to think about it.
These two take a sharp look at the world they inhabit and help us see the moments of life unfold. I can't quite convey what I mean - this is a simple book of short stories but somehow I'm feeling this is an important example of what these two are capable of doing for us - which is to make us feel what they're telling us, really inhabit the scenes.
It's also a nice revelation to find out what life in Brazil is like, and that (at least for the twins) it's very much something I recognize.
I particularly enjoyed seeing how their artistic styles slightly differed, but in visually interesting ways. I've known they're distinguished from each other but hadn't taken the time to figure out how. Bá has a very graphic design style - heavy lines and shadows - and Moon is more fluid and wispy. I love both styles, and it's a trip to see each of them give us their take on a story ("Reflections") that goes pretty meta when you stop to think about it.
August 9, 2015
Hmmm. Fabio Moon and Gabriel Ba, twins who write stories separately and in collaboration. Apparently in this collection they often switch roles (one will write, the other draw) and some of these are written individually by one or the other. So far I have read two books by these guys and can't quite connect with their work. I tend to appreciate sequential art stories that don't have conventional narrative arcs and that are sort of dream-like and meditative. But these feel a bit undercooked even for me, or just maybe not quite mature, or maybe their concerns are simply not my concerns? Not sure. Somehow I find myself comparing them to Jonathan Ames' "The Alcoholic" and "Brooklyn Dreams" by JM DeMatteis, and I liked their books much better, thought they had more depth, humor, more vividly explored relationships with self, other, city.
August 24, 2017
4.5/5
"Kahve İçin Çok Geç" ve "Yansımalar I - II" hikayeleri özellikle okunmalı, üzerine düşünülmeli, sevilmeli.
Bu yazarlar ne yazsa okurum. ❤
EFSANE!
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"Kahve İçin Çok Geç" ve "Yansımalar I - II" hikayeleri özellikle okunmalı, üzerine düşünülmeli, sevilmeli.
Bu yazarlar ne yazsa okurum. ❤
EFSANE!
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August 5, 2016
Hoşuma giden yerler olsa Güngezgini'nin çok altında kalmış. Yine de eğlencelik, göz atmalık alınabilir, okunabilir. 2.5
February 24, 2012
Gabriel Bá and Fábio Moon are two of the most gifted comics artists of their generation. That they're still young and the majority of their work is yet to be drawn and written is a comfort to fans of the medium. Picking up their latest book will always feel like meeting with an old friend. Their strong black lines and exaggerated figure work are comforting, and the differences in their styles are like different verses of the same song.
So picking up De:Tales, a handsome newly reprinted collection of some of the twins' early work, is like learning about a friend's past. Most of the Bá and Moon books I've read are fantastical, featuring Lovecraftian creatures and futuristic cityscapes. I enjoyed reading about the little corner of Brazil that surrounds the brothers and defines so much of who they are.
I can't help hoping the boys will eventually have time to make more of these.
So picking up De:Tales, a handsome newly reprinted collection of some of the twins' early work, is like learning about a friend's past. Most of the Bá and Moon books I've read are fantastical, featuring Lovecraftian creatures and futuristic cityscapes. I enjoyed reading about the little corner of Brazil that surrounds the brothers and defines so much of who they are.
I can't help hoping the boys will eventually have time to make more of these.
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July 15, 2014Short pieces by the confusingly-named twins; some are pretty but inconsequential (though would probably go down well with people who have a greater tolerance than mine for US indie and/or subtitled films where people who clearly fancy each other fail to get together because bittersweet whimsy). The best of them, though, are wonderful, concentrating a complex mood into a handful of pages like poetry.
August 26, 2016
Beğendim. Favorim "kahve için çok geç". Sayfa 51.
Bu da kitaptan olmayan bir söylenti;
İşte böylelikle 23 Zilkade 1437 Cuma günü, onu geride bırakarak yeni ve çekmeye değer acılara doğru yelken açtık.. (Ve: Gerçekler: Ankara Öyküleri, Murat G.)
Bu da kitaptan olmayan bir söylenti;
İşte böylelikle 23 Zilkade 1437 Cuma günü, onu geride bırakarak yeni ve çekmeye değer acılara doğru yelken açtık.. (Ve: Gerçekler: Ankara Öyküleri, Murat G.)
December 23, 2018
Wonderful art. Just not my kind of thing.
December 4, 2017
Fabio ve Gabriel ikiz kardeşler çizimleri ve hayattan ilham aldıkları hikayeleri ile duygusal ve fantastik öğelerle bizlere zevkli bir grafik roman sunmuşlar. / The twin brothers Fabio and Gabriel with their drawings and stories inspired from ordinary life convey us emotional and fantastic elements giving us an amazing graphic novel to read.
June 7, 2020
Güngezgini'ni okuduğumdan beri bu ikiliyi daha çok okumak, çizgilerini daha çok görmek istiyordum. El Camino adlı giriş öyküsüyle bu ikili bize ne vermek istediğini çok net anlatmış ve sonrasında her öyküyle bunu pekiştirmiş. Kısa, buruk ve tekrar tekrar okunası öyküler. Çok keyifliydi.
July 3, 2017
This was interesting? The art was really gritty and there was a lot of circular stories about how people are interconnected and how time is weird. The majority of the stories are little love stories, though, and they're very... obviously written by guys? They're about cool, mysterious girls who make the first move, get into taxi's with guys they don't know, approach men on the street and immediately hit on them. Every single one of them, the whole time, I was just like "wow that's so unsafe, no woman would do that???" Those were a bit eye-rolly. There were some interesting things in here, though.
January 20, 2008
fraternal twin comic book duo's first collection in the USA is a bunch of short sequences in the lives of twenty characters that look like them (young,Euro, handsome and artsy) the artwork reminds me of Paul Pope in bits and Eduardo Risso in others - these are love comics - the characters are forever in lip lock or pining for it
February 1, 2019
I liked some of the artwork and dreaminess of these stories set in Brazil, mostly of younger men and their interest in women, but I never found myself emotionally engaged with the characters, the stories, or particularly exciting in any way. Not like the marvelous Daytripper.
October 11, 2017
Yine çok güzel, bu ikiliden sıradan öyküler okumak, rastgele anları onların gözünden görmek... Ama bir eksiklik, bir kopuk kopukluk var bu kitapta. Belki de fazla rastgele olmuşlardır.
April 26, 2018
Bu dünyada küresel olan tek şey yalnızlık.
January 31, 2021
İkizlerin bu okuduğum üçüncü eseri. Her ne kadar şehir hikayeleri fikri ve formatı çok hoşuma gitse de bu kitap Güngezgini ve İki Kardeş'in yanında oldukça zayıf kalmış. Umarım bu formatta daha fazla ısrar ederler.
January 31, 2022
Geçmişe özlem, duyguları yaşama çabaları ve arkadaşlık ilişkileri hikayelerin bel kemiğini oluşturuyor. İçlerinde en çok " Kahve için çok Geç", " Cumartesi" ve " Başka Kelimeler"i sevdim ama genel olarak hikayeler yavandı.
February 27, 2021
Either it's So Meta or it tried to be one 😐
March 3, 2022
Eserdeki hikayeler sanatçıların en başarılı yapıtı Güngezgini ile kıyaslanamaz ancak Moon ve Ba çizgi roman dünyasında başkalarında rastlanılması pek mümkün olmayan tarzlarını bu eserde de ortaya koymuş. Hatta hikayelerin konu olarak basitliği konunun değil sanatçıların çizimlerinin öne geçmesini sağlamış. Gündelik yaşamda basit görünen onca şey sanatçıların eserlerinde o basitliklerini yitirmeden görsellik sayesinde derin anlamlar yüklenmiş. Direksiyonu tutan eller, elektrik direkleri, yanan mumlar; el, direk ve mum kalarak estetik bir dünyanın parçası olmuşlar. Kısaca hikayelerin sıradanlığı ve eylemsizliğini çizimler gidermiş ve bir modern masanın kapılarını biz okurlara açmış.
September 27, 2017
These short stories ( in graphic novel form) tend to be about male-female relationships, including of the "could-have-been" and "now-I-will-never-know-for-sure" type. The drawings by these two Brazilian twins are fine, but thematically I didn't find the stories depicted very deep or intriguing. There is not much, to my mind, that is particularly Brazilian here. The subtitle could easily have been Stories from Urban Ukraine, or Stories from Urban Canada.
April 11, 2010
Overall I was not really into this collection of graphic short stories, except for one really lovely story about a group of guys who bring their friend back from the dead for one night, just to hang out. Otherwise I found the stories dull and lacking in the Brazilian flavor so trumped by the description on the back and the foreword.
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