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Kayla I think those things are just coincidence, in my opinion. Draco and Lucius talk the talk, but they're really sort of cowardly deep down. They're just followers of Voldemort, and even then they aren't really sure they want to be, but they feel like they have no choice. Valentine and Jonathon don't follow anyone. They're the ones creating evil. And their powers aren't really similar to each other at all. But I do see some similarities; I don't think Cassandra Clare copied Rowling or anything though.


Avani Except Draco turned out to be a sort-of decent person, unlike Jonathan, and Lucius did love his whole family.


Rachel Shes not a copycat! It just sort of turned out thT WAY


Gabby To be fair, Cassandra Clare origionally wrote this as a fanfiction of Harry Potter. That could explain it.


★ Mist ☆ Cassidy ★ Keshena wrote: "Any similarities between MI and HP are not coincedental at all! Cassandra Clare is a huge Potterphile. Her fanfiction work, namely the Draco Trilogy, three novel length fics in which a potions clas..."

First off, the Draco Triology, was fanfiction. That means she's allowed to use J.K. Rowling's ideas. Second of, TMI and HP are completley different.

A lot of people say Cassandra copied it, but if you really think of t, she didn't. Her ideas are different. Plus, the orginaly people that claimed she was a copycat, were all haters who were jealous that Cassandra was living her dream and they weren't.

If you've read the Draco Trilogy and TMI, you would realize that there is not simliarties there. Cassidy didn't 'rewrite' her fanfiction and make it into the Mortal Instruments. When I met her for the second time, I asked her about it, and she said that TMI was written from scratch and was not based on her fanfiction in the least.


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Mimi ❤ Kayla wrote: "I think those things are just coincidence, in my opinion. Draco and Lucius talk the talk, but they're really sort of cowardly deep down. They're just followers of Voldemort, and even then they aren..."

If that's the case then there are far to many coincidences:

Mundies: Muggles
Valentine and Voldemort have nearly the same goal
Everyone thought Valentine/Voldemort was dead at the beginning
Shadowhunters and wizards are WAY to alike
The Clave is a cheap knock off of the Ministry of Magic
Valentine has a circle, like Voldemort did
Jace is a carbon copy of Draco (and a bad one at that)

Not to mention, her rip offs from Star Wars and Lord of the Rings.


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the accusation that clare blatantly copied rowling is ridiculous. a lot of the mentioned coincidences occur in almost all literature because all literature follows a few basic story lines. also, all bad guys have essentially the same goal (world domination/ fill world with an improved race) and a lot of bad guys do the whole "i was dead once but now im back for VENGEANCE" thing. also, all baddies need henchmen so i don't think the circle/ death eaters compare. and to say that draco is like sebastian/johnathan or jace is a bit silly. all three are VERY different. the only similarity they have is their hair color. and lucius, voldemort and valentine are very different too. finally, i am not really sure what this talk of fanfic is about but from what i understand, the point of fanfic is to copy other writers work. to build on someone else's story for FUN. btw, i am a huge tmi AND harry potter fan.


★ Mist ☆ Cassidy ★ Keshena wrote: "I never said the Draco trilogy had anything to do with the storyline of MI, just pointed to it as a notable example of Clare's fanfiction. If you don't fully understand someone's comment, please do..."

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to offend you. Yes, I misunderstood what you were trying to say; I thought you were tying to say something completley different. Mistakes happen.

I think you misunderstood my comment as well. I was not trying to be rude to you, nor was I trying to offend you in anyway, shape, or form. I didn't appreciate the harshness of your reply. You might want to invest in your own advice.

Excuse me, for making a few grammar mistakes. My writing isn't perfect and I never claimed it was.


★ Mist ☆ Cassidy ★ Fran wrote: "the accusation that clare blatantly copied rowling is ridiculous. a lot of the mentioned coincidences occur in almost all literature because all literature follows a few basic story lines. also, al..."

Melina wrote: "Kayla wrote: "I think those things are just coincidence, in my opinion. Draco and Lucius talk the talk, but they're really sort of cowardly deep down. They're just followers of Voldemort, and even..."

I completley understand and agree that there are a very parallels in both the TMI and HP universes. I think the Mundie/Muggle one is probably the biggest. I'll admit, that the Deathly Hallows/Mortal Instruments thing is a bit simliar, but if you get over the fact that they're just three powerful weapons, their uses are really different. The Hallows can make you invisible, resurrect the dead, and can make sure you always win in a battle. The Mortal Instruments just makes new Shadowhunters.

What Fran said was true - most Villians have the same goals, have a following, and are trying to infiltrate government-like groups. It's been redone and reused so many times that I don't think it's fair to say that Cassie coppied.

Personally, I don't see how Jace and Draco are like each other. They're biggest (and only) simliarty is that they're sarcastic. If that's the big problem there, then hundreds of authors should be called coppy-cats as well. I can't think of a single book where all the characters are completley and a 100% unique.

In the overall prespective, I think the Mortal Instruments is completley different from Harry Potter. Yes, they both have a Villian who is crazy and wants a pure-blooded country, but so does so many other Villians throughout history, before and after Voldemort. The plot line of Harry Potter and the Mortal Instruments, is completley different n the long run. They're opposites for the most part with the exception of a few parallels. The writing technique, the way the characters act and talk, and the World, are all different.

I am the biggest Potterhead. I love Harry Potter and J.K. Rowling more than any other series and author. However, I do like TMI a lot and I can't stand to see Cassandra belittled for doing something, I don't believe she really did.

Like I said, this is just my opinion. I'm not trying to offend you, I'm just trying to state my point. I don't want to get into any other mix-ups.


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Mimi ❤ ★ Mist ☆ Cassidy ★ wrote: "Fran wrote: "the accusation that clare blatantly copied rowling is ridiculous. a lot of the mentioned coincidences occur in almost all literature because all literature follows a few basic story li..."

I understand your argument, but that really doesn't change the fact that Clare had been accused of plagiarism plenty of times for it to really be a big deal. If Clare had never written Harry Potter fan fiction and had never plagiarized, then no one would be accusing her of a crime, but because she did those two things, it kind of opens up the real light of her "inspiration". The similarities between the Mortal Instruments and Harry Potter would be just a coincidence had it not been for her little record and obsession with writing Harry Potter Fan fiction. There is hardly a coincidence in that.

I hope you understand where I'm getting at, because I do not mean to offend you. I just think she's trying to eat some of JK Rowling's success.


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i totally understand where you are coming from! i dont want to pick a fight either. i agree that she made some questionable choices before TMI and those choices are getting her in hot water now with some of her fans/not-so-fans. i am just not a fan of sweeping generalizations and that was what i was trying to clear up before. no worries :)


Sparrowlicious Oh, okay, someone said "transitioning from fanfiction to original fiction". That hurts my feelings as a writer who is capable of creating their own characters. I can never understand why people look up to writers who are not able of creating their own characters right away but need the characters of another author as a 'base'. That's cheap and horrible.
Creating characters is actually pretty easy, developing them is the harder part. But you can do so WHILE writing.

That 'The Mortal Instruments' series is a mash-up of the author's fanfictions and all kinds of fandoms she likes is pretty much old news. That's kind of like Paolini, only that he plagiarized a scene of another book (The Ruby Knight) instead of fanfiction he actually wrote himself, lol.


Julianna It's not as if Rowling invented villains and weapons of power that come in threes. Plus, authors get inspired by other authors all the time, that's always a question in Q&A's with authors, "who were your inspirations for this book?"


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Mimi ❤ Julianna wrote: "It's not as if Rowling invented villains and weapons of power that come in threes. Plus, authors get inspired by other authors all the time, that's always a question in Q&A's with authors, "who wer..."

Yes, but Rowling did invent Voldemort, and Valentine is a carbon copy of him.


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Melina wrote: "Julianna wrote: "It's not as if Rowling invented villains and weapons of power that come in threes. Plus, authors get inspired by other authors all the time, that's always a question in Q&A's with ..."

they are anything but carbon copies. their goals, attitudes and relationships are very VERY different. voldemort wants to become immortal. he is so afraid of death he splits himself into seven pieces in the hopes that he will avoid it completely. he wants to collect the elder wand in order to protect himself. he wants to kill harry in order to save himself from the prophesy. he loves no one (aside from nagini) and he uses his followers as shields and warriors. he does not care for them. valentine cares about shadowhunters and his family in his own way. he genuinely loves jocelyn and jace and even jonathan. he is not trying to destroy the clave to protect himself (he doesn't care any more than normal if he dies). he is going after clave reform. he wants to purify the clave and perfect the shadowhunters. i suppose you could say voldemort wants to purify the wizarding race, but that is only a branch of his goals. he really only cares about himself, not the wizarding race. i realize that this is a lengthy answer, but i REALLY hate sweeping generalizations made without any real thought. thanks if you read this all the way through!


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Mimi ❤ Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Julianna wrote: "It's not as if Rowling invented villains and weapons of power that come in threes. Plus, authors get inspired by other authors all the time, that's always a questio..."

Your still not understanding.
I'll reply with more detail once I have the energy. And once I care enough to

PS: Valentine DOES use his followers/people who work for him as shields and followers. And Valentine DOES want to protect himself. And Voldemort and Valentine DO have pretty much the general same goals.


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Actually, I think I understand perfectly. But feel free to write your opinion when you have the energy. Valentine and Voldemort have SIMILAR goals, which you admitted yourself by saying "pretty much the general same goals". their goals are similar in appearance but different underneath. also, valentine doesn't go out of his way to make himself immortal like voldemort would. this is key. valentine cares more about purifying the shadowhunters than becoming immortal (if he didn't, he would turn himself into a vampire). voldemort cares about purifying wizards too (his hatred of half bloods and muggle borns). that is because he hates his father so much. his main goal is to become immortal, though. finally, if we honestly have different opinions, i am glad to argue with you and disagree. if, however, you skimmed the book and/or are naturally a Clare hater and will see no reason if it is in favor of miss clare, please tell me now. i don't want to waste my energy or yours. I can see it is important to you.


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Mimi ❤ Fran…
You are misinterpreting my standings. You believe that I’ve went ahead and ventured into reading Clare’s books with a hostile impression of her. I have not. When I began reading TMI, I have not a clue of how bad of an author Clare really is. I never knew of her plagiarizing scandal. I haven’t a clue who this woman was, other than she has published a series called TMI.

I have, in no way, just skimmed the first two books, however, the third book, I have done quite some skimming’s, but in my defense, Clare is a terrible writer and this book was incredibly mind numbingly boring. I had read the two books with the impression that Clare had a couple of copies of Harry Potter on her desk while she typed up her lamely imagined story. (No offence) I could almost taste the similarities with her characters and the Harry Potter characters (even if HP had done it better) and her plot with the plot of HP. She even plagiarized a LOTR scene. And when I found out that she indeed write HP fanfic, I realized that my predictions were right. She copied.

Valentine was clearly sprouted from Voldemort—which I do not have a problem with—if she could actually write a good enough villain. Whether you want to believe my standings or not, these two have considerably a lot in common, enough to have hundreds of other readers notice it too. I’m not the only one. He’s a sorry excuse for a villain, and how do I know she got her villain from Voldemort? Well, aside from the glaringly obvious stolen characteristics and goals, she was a HP fanfic writer! There’s proof fresh under your nose.
The only difference between Valentine and Voldemort is that Clare sprinkled a dose of Gary-Stu on Valentine. Yeah. Big difference.

And lets not forget the rest of the book. If you honestly cannot see the similarities, then I will be lead to the unfortunate conclusion that you A) did not read HP or B) Are some sort of close relative to this woman and are just trying to back her up.

Please do not take my quite lengthy explanation too harshly—I mean no offence to you. I understand that you are in love with TMI. I in no means mean to insult you for this opinion.


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Gabby Melina wrote: "Fran…
You are misinterpreting my standings. You believe that I’ve went ahead and ventured into reading Clare’s books with a hostile impression of her. I have not. When I began reading TMI, I have n..."


She DID NOT Copy!


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Melina wrote: "Fran…
You are misinterpreting my standings. You believe that I’ve went ahead and ventured into reading Clare’s books with a hostile impression of her. I have not. When I began reading TMI, I have n..."


You're not insulting me at all! I love these discussions! talking with someone who disagrees with me is very interesting. i do love TMI but i also love HP, both of which i have read over multiple times. i don't know much about LOTR so i don't really feel qualified to argue about that. sorry. :( and yes i am aware that other readers noticed the similarities as well. unfortunately, everyone who i have tried to talk to with this standing hasn't had much proof to back up their claims. people keep falling back on the whole "she wrote HP fanfic so she must have copied" thing. while i don't disagree that fanfic is a risky hobby for an aspiring author to have, i don't think it is proof that she copied. it just proves she's a fan. it might prove that she draws inspiration from HP which is not wrong at all. many authors draw inspiration from other authors and that is totally normal. i think the problem with people that assume she copied is that they omit that which contradicts them. for example, you are not really considering the glaringly obvious DIFFERENCES between valentine and voldemort which i have already pointed out. i am not saying valentine is better or worse than voldemort, i am just saying they are different. based on the similarities that you and others have provided, any villain could be a copy off of any other villain in history. many people say, for instance, that voldemort is a cheap copy off of hitler. while JKR has admitted to drawing inspiration from hitler, i think it is wrong to say that he is a carbon copy. they are clearly different, just like valentine and voldemort are different. it is my opinion that clare's characters contain no more similarities to JKR's than to any other character set.


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Mimi ❤ Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran…
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I'm very glad that you think that! I agree with that by the way, and thank you for not being one of those pathetic fans who start screaming and crying!

Yes, but when people say that she's written a HP fanfic, they're bluntly saying that this is the answer to people tagging this a a coincidence. The fanfic proves that the similarities are no different.

First I want to ask before we get into anything else: Do you agree that the plot and characters were derived from HP? Because I do. The characters, plot and just the world building have strings attached to them leading to HP. The whole story (not just the villain) were based off of HP.


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Mimi ❤ Gabby wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran…
You are misinterpreting my standings. You believe that I’ve went ahead and ventured into reading Clare’s books with a hostile impression of her. I have not. When I began readi..."


Do you actually think I'll listen to a crying fan? ^_^


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Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran…
You are misinterpreting my standings. You believe that I’ve went ahead and ventured into reading Clare’s books with a hostile impression of her. I have not. When ..."


no i don't think that TMI is derived from HP. i think that they both follow a similar literary plot line and that the characters have, on the surface, similar personalities. however i believe that ALL books (at least modern YA books, which, lets face it, is most of what i read) follow those plot lines and character archetypes. i don't think it is just TMI and HP. very loosely, every hero, every villain and every story are the same. i don't think it is fair to pin point clare for something that almost all writers do subconsciously. it is natural and normal. therefore i do not believe that clare stole or copied ideas from JKR any more than other writers do to other works. like i said before, there is nothing wrong with being influenced.


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Mimi ❤ Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran…
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That would be a valid argument, if I didn't believe that the rest of YA books are also carbon copies of each other.


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Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran…
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i totally agree that a lot of them are. i try my best to pick good ones but it can be hard. just waiting for something new right now. twilight ushered in a wave of vampire books, the hunger games lead to dystopia books. etc. its boring and dull.


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Mimi ❤ Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran…
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Absoulutly. The problem with those books is that they continue to follow the trend. They're recycling their plots and characters without a breath of fresh air! Authors these days are painfully lazy.


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Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran…
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i hear ya! is disgusting. btw, i creeped on your library (hehe) and you filed the HP books under "to read" have you read them?


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Mimi ❤ Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran…
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Oh yes, I've already read them. A lot of the books on my TO READ shelf I've already read but I'm rereading them all for research purposes (language wise. Because HP has fantastic language) Because I'm majoring in English in collage.


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Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran wrote: "Melina wrote: "Fran…
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very cool! and yeah it does have amazing language. good luck with the research! and this was fun. thank you so much for being a good debate partner


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Amber Morsicato Its totally obvious she's a HP fan. I got half way thru city of bones and felt she could have been a lot more original with some of her ideas... Vallentine--Voldemort, clary-harry, lucas-lucias, mad eye-magnus, clary was gifted n never knew from Being sheltered as was Harry Potter... in Hp there's 3. Magic items... same in MI. Simon turns into a rat and is compared to a weasel hence Ron Weasley. Harry lost both his parents as did Clary. Theeres even magic cups in both. I agree her story iis still a good read and I appreciate the story. I just wish the inspiration wasn't quite as obvious.


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CONSPIRACY THEORY ALL THE WAY PEOPLE!!! LOVE IT!


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Amber Morsicato And I'm only half way through c.o.b. so I suppose well see what other awesome original ideas she's come up with. Lol.


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Eva I love how people anymore jump to the conclusion that someone has copied someone else simply because the ideas are similar when the "original" work is similar to other works, which are similar to others, and so on.

Nothing under the sun is new.


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Amber Morsicato Its not a conspiracy ... lol its an observation. Dia being more than an airport and harpa are conspiracies. Comparing mundanes and mudbloods is not.


Rachel DRACO IS BETTER THAN JOHNATHAN SO THATS IS DIFF


Kirstyn I don't think these books or characters are similar. Valentine actually cares for people in a way and Sebastian is trying to do something far different and separate from his father.


Marji I thought the issue wasn't so much "She took Harry Potter characters" and more "she stole dialogue and scenes from television shows and wrote them into her fanfic...which then was used as a basis for Mortal Instruments."

I think she didn't use the plagiarized bits once it became MI. I think? I couldn't be clear without reading both that AND the Draco Trilogy...but the fact that she keeps being accused of plagiarism by a lot of different people just leaves a bad taste in one's mouth.

Writing a paranormal novel, you're bound to come across the same ideas from book to book, among different authors. That's not really the issue for me. But when I hear about her more specific dialogue and lyrics theft it makes me think twice about giving her books a chance.


Jordan Honestly, I just think that this is a popular concept. I loved both series, but didn't see the similarities in the characters before this discussion. Honestly, I don't think Cassie took these characters. I mean, how many series out there have people who look similar? A lot of them do. Or who act similar? If you picked two characters, I'm sure you could find some similarities with them.

Both stories seemed original, and I really wouldn't bother about Cassie stealing anything.


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Gabby Ana wrote: "Dragon pox : Demon pox"

Never heard of Dragon pox


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Andre The thing is this, not only does Clare's books have so much in common with her HP fan fic, they have also so many elements in common with the popular titles of the last 13 years, and some before, that it is pretty hard to believe it is a coincidence, especially considered that they are so poorly handled in her books. Just because the characters are not all the same from the different titles doesn't mean they are totally different and when so many elements of her books have so much in common with others it is hard to believe that all of this was her own idea or just inspiration. You do get the feeling that she is copying, especially since in both CoB and CA the basic story is pretty much the same. In all her three series so far the main male characters are also very alike, so much alike that I started to ask myself whether she actually can write different characters.

To give a few examples (trust me there is more):
Let's start with Jace: His looks and character are not only very similar to Draco from the fanfic, his eye color and piano play, watching Clary in her sleep as well as supposedly having changed so much once Clary came along (not that we were ever told how he was before) is eerily reminiscent of Edward Cullen. His actions, abilities, characterization and looks are so stereotypical that you think she copied it from the Marty Stu entry of Tvtropes.org (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php...).

Her vampires not only become paler when they become vampires, their powers are also very stereotypical and their poreless skin, vulnerability to fire and good looks are reminiscent of both Twilight and the vampires of Anne Rice. Also the way they are created sounds as though she basically combined the ways they were created in Anne Rice's books as well as Buffy the Vampire Slayer.

And not only are both the Deathly Hallows three items, but also the Mortal Instruments but instead they are like some other items from the Potterverse: Mirror (Erised), Cup (Helga Huffelpuff's cup) and Sword (the sword of Griffindor).

The vampires and werewolves (I doubt I have to point out how unoriginal they are in both powers, temperament and reproduction) not only are enemies by instinct (which she totally ignores in CoLS) but they are also descended from two demons that supposedly were enemies, which sounds like Underworld where it were two brothers.

To get back to the Potterverse, both Valentine and Voldemort have things in common, as mentioned, but apart from that both create a large amount of fear, despite the fact that Voldemort had established a reign of terror while Valentine was barely more than a rebel, so it is difficult to see why Valentine caused all this fear of him. So I think there is some weight to it that Valentine is Voldemort.
Also the whole incest thing as well as the characters looks remind me of Angel Sanctuary, a comic/manga the author clearly referenced in CoG.

Then there is Luke's actual name. He is called Lucien Greymark a name very reminiscent of both Fenrir Greyback from Harry Potter as well as Lucien from the Underworld movies.

The inquisitor from CoA reminded me instantly of Barty Crouch from the 4th Harry Potter movie (not the book, that one was quite different), especially with how she reacted to Valentine and the story with her son.


L Jay Goodson Gabby wrote: "Ana wrote: "Dragon pox : Demon pox"

Never heard of Dragon pox"


Okay, so apparently you haven't read Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Dragon Pox is what Abraxas Malfoy died from, which is similar to chicken pox or small pox but turns the person green. http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Dra...

Here's the interesting thing as I didn't remember demon Pox, as I never felt the need to write Mortal Instruments fan fiction. I do write Harry Potter fan fiction, but I would never try to have it published even after tweaking things. I went to the Shadowhunters' Wiki, which states that demon pox is a sexually transmitted disease one gets from demons. It has a dormant state like syphilis; however, after that stage one turns yellow and green and then swelling. It is defined as having a shield shaped rash on the infected's back before creating cracks and fissures in the skin. http://shadowhunters.wikia.com/wiki/D...

Hmm, so reading the similarities between the two, one may assume that our dearest Cassie took a something else from Harry Potter and tweaked it before calling it her own. Of course there are some differences because she would've been sued had there not been any; however, there is more similarity.


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Gabby Talis wrote: "Gabby wrote: "Ana wrote: "Dragon pox : Demon pox"

Never heard of Dragon pox"

Okay, so apparently you haven't read Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Dragon Pox is what Abraxas Malfoy died fr..."


I have read it. I just can't remember it. And I don't even remember the character that died.
And seriously, if it was so plagiarised how did she get it published? And how would it have become a movie?

It obviously isn't.


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L Jay Goodson Unfortunately, plagiarized work will slip through the cracks unless the owner of the source material presses charges. Of course after that is done and all the legal fees and time some may not see it as a big enough threat. Sorry, Abraxas is only mentioned in padding when Draco tries to use his grandfather's name to impress Slughorn. Plus the screenplay for the movie was written by someone else and likely not plagiarized.


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Gabby I find that very unlikely. There was a book on here a little while ago that was plagiarised by two books and the wuthors didn't know about it. Actually, it was the readers who found out and pressed charges.
And if what you said was true, obviously J.K. Rowling doesn't think it is plagiarised because she has not pressed any charges at all. And trust me, I think she knows about this book.


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Andre Maybe, but I would not count on it. If you are busy enough you miss this stuff, well that or if you simply don't care. I personally know people that missed the Twilight craze despite it being everywhere.
Also Clare has revealed herself not to be a very reasonable person once confronted with something, possible that this scares people away.


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Gabby I still think, despite Cassie "scaring" people away, that this doesn't faze J.K Rowling much. She's much richer and popular. I think if she truly saw something wrong, she'd do something about it.


message 47: by Andre (new)

Andre Nobody can say anything specific about that. However even without HP, there are more similarities with other titles. Far too many. So it is either close to plagiarism or simply a massive sign of lack of originality.
And speaking of that:
You cannot simply say "nothing is new" since that is a)not true and b)even a known concept can be given a fresh or less often used twist. E.g. when you use vampires go back to the original folkloric vampire or keep the bite out of the werewolves and go back to pelts. If you have Lilith in it, e.g. make her delusional since the myth of her being Adam's 1st wife is no older than the 8th century AD or you could make her be a sex-changer to bend the curse upon her. If you have faeries, make them more global, give them a different name and cultural subdivisions to explain the differences. Or maybe make it so that they are actually shapeshifting foxes or racoon dogs or make them the children of Coyote or Raven. Or don't use any of them. Use the Viscera suckers from the Phillipines, or the Gilikango of Africa, or use the smaller and more magical versions of trolls. Or maybe dragon birds, or Kirin's or the Benandanti (no they are not werewolves, that is a myth), or Tanuqs or whatnot. There is still so much that it is ridiculous to claim that there is nothing else that could have been used. It's not as though its difficult to find information on all these mythological beings, heck I could find them, and I only speak two languages.


message 48: by Amel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Amel Kayla wrote: "I think those things are just coincidence, in my opinion. Draco and Lucius talk the talk, but they're really sort of cowardly deep down. They're just followers of Voldemort, and even then they aren..."

I don't think Draco was weak at all. His father, sure, but if you read the entire series and came out thinking Draco was a coward than dare I say you may have missed the entire concept of his character.


message 49: by Sam (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sam Jewiss Mimi ❤ wrote: "Kayla wrote: "I think those things are just coincidence, in my opinion. Draco and Lucius talk the talk, but they're really sort of cowardly deep down. They're just followers of Voldemort, and even..."

When I was explaining TMI to my boyfriend he said to me that I had basically just given him the Star Wars plot :D


message 50: by Andre (new)

Andre Ouch XD


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