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うちの息子はたぶんゲイ [Uchi no Musuko wa Tabun Gay] #4
My son is probably gay, Vol. 4
La vicina di casa Asumi sembra provare qualcosa per Hiroki, ma lui ha in testa solo Daigo, soprattutto ora che ha scoperto che si è messo con una ragazza. Quando Hiroki lo racconta alla madre, lei rimane scioccata. In un turbine di rapporti che cambiano, la signora Aoyama vorrebbe solo che i suoi figli e i loro amici potessero far tesoro dei propri sentimenti… Riuscirà ad aiutarli in qualche modo?
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First published November 22, 2021
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July 26, 2023
Lần này mình vẫn thích Vol.4, vẫn là một câu chuyện ấm áp và đầy ý nghĩa về gia đình, những điều về cộng LGBT+, và nhiẻu điều khác về sở thích, sự riêng tư và quan niệm của mỗi người trong cuộc sống. Xã hội này đầy phức tạp, có nhiều định kiến không chỉ với cộng đồng LGBT mà bất kì ai cũng có, chỉ cần khác biệt một chút thì nào là "không bình thường", "lập dị"... điều đó không có nghĩa những người thiểu số bị xem là không bình thường.
Mình thích đoạn liên quan tới "phim" và "đời thực", tình yêu của cộng đồng LGBT trên phim ảnh toàn những người được khắc họa "màu hồng", toàn những người đẹp các kiểu - dẫn đến quan niệm "người đồng tính cũng phải đẹp", nhưng không phải đẹp mới có quyền trở thành một ai đó.
Các mối quan hệ của người mẹ Tomoko từ người chồng, đứa con trai Yuri và cậu đồng nghiệp là gay (Tono) đều mở mang nhiều điều, tạo thêm nhiều hy vọng về cuộc sống sẽ tốt đẹp cho cậu con trai Hiroki (có lẽ là gay) của bà ấy.
Mình vẫn thích Asumi ฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ dù là Asumi hay Daigo có cách quan tâm và ủng hộ khác nhau với Hiroki, thì mỗi người đều có suy nghĩ của riêng mình. Asumi với Yuri hỗ trợ, động viên Hiroki nhiều lần í.
Lần này điểm đặc biệt ở Vol.4 chắc chắn là chuyện tình không suông sẻ của Hiroki, mình cũng bối rối về suy nghĩ của Daigo về Hiroki, nhưng có lẽ tất cả chỉ đơn giản là một kỷ niệm đẹp - mình thích cách câu chuyện diễn ra không phải theo cách buồn hay đau lòng, tất cả đều sẽ rời đi và chỉ có kỷ niệm là ở lại, nên cứ trân trọng những điều đẹp nhất trong cuộc sống.
Mình thích đoạn liên quan tới "phim" và "đời thực", tình yêu của cộng đồng LGBT trên phim ảnh toàn những người được khắc họa "màu hồng", toàn những người đẹp các kiểu - dẫn đến quan niệm "người đồng tính cũng phải đẹp", nhưng không phải đẹp mới có quyền trở thành một ai đó.
Các mối quan hệ của người mẹ Tomoko từ người chồng, đứa con trai Yuri và cậu đồng nghiệp là gay (Tono) đều mở mang nhiều điều, tạo thêm nhiều hy vọng về cuộc sống sẽ tốt đẹp cho cậu con trai Hiroki (có lẽ là gay) của bà ấy.
Mình vẫn thích Asumi ฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ dù là Asumi hay Daigo có cách quan tâm và ủng hộ khác nhau với Hiroki, thì mỗi người đều có suy nghĩ của riêng mình. Asumi với Yuri hỗ trợ, động viên Hiroki nhiều lần í.
Lần này điểm đặc biệt ở Vol.4 chắc chắn là chuyện tình không suông sẻ của Hiroki, mình cũng bối rối về suy nghĩ của Daigo về Hiroki, nhưng có lẽ tất cả chỉ đơn giản là một kỷ niệm đẹp - mình thích cách câu chuyện diễn ra không phải theo cách buồn hay đau lòng, tất cả đều sẽ rời đi và chỉ có kỷ niệm là ở lại, nên cứ trân trọng những điều đẹp nhất trong cuộc sống.
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November 27, 2022I think this was my favorite volume so far. It dealt with the topic of liking someone that may never like you back, and how that can feel. The struggle of a heteronormative society/community that does not recognize the appearance of queerness, and when it does, it is seen as more of a fetishization of the queer body.
I think it's also nice to get a little bit more insight into Yuri's character, and the societal gendered view of friendship. In many ways I think I get Yuri the most out of the all the other characters. I only really had female friends, I still only really have female friends with a handful of male and nonbinary friends as well. Much like Yuri people thought that I was dating some of my friends, or thought that I needed to have a relationship with them. They sometimes did have feelings for me, but I never felt the same, and would have to tell them something like Yuri does.
It was just a really heartfelt volume that I think was done really well. I look forward to the future volumes and hope they come out soon!
I think it's also nice to get a little bit more insight into Yuri's character, and the societal gendered view of friendship. In many ways I think I get Yuri the most out of the all the other characters. I only really had female friends, I still only really have female friends with a handful of male and nonbinary friends as well. Much like Yuri people thought that I was dating some of my friends, or thought that I needed to have a relationship with them. They sometimes did have feelings for me, but I never felt the same, and would have to tell them something like Yuri does.
It was just a really heartfelt volume that I think was done really well. I look forward to the future volumes and hope they come out soon!
October 6, 2024
This series really nails the variety of feelings of gay teen Hiroki, his cool younger brother that is wiser than his years, his Dad that is a great guy but not realizing Hiroki's boy friend might be boyfriend. And don't forget Mom, who is in tune with everything. The awkwardness of boys showing their feelings as they grow up is handled extremely well.
Each of the 21 mini-chapters are about 6 pages long. They touch on advancing but different things that realistically come up in the life of a gay boy- at least I think he is gay ;). Hiroki never really ever overtly comes out, but all the signals are there. He has such a positive community of friends and family! The idealism here mixes perfectly with the realism making this whole series an exemplary and addictive experience for everyone (straight or lgbtq) to be reading.
Selecting some favorite mini-chapter-highlights...
64. Bathhouse
Even solid hetero Dad admits to not liking the bath house trips when young. To much ‘comparing’ going on.
65. Queer
We can easily over-think what is queer on TV.
66. I’m a Man
“Liking men doesn’t make you a woman inside”. Profound advice from a guy at Mom’s workplace who gets asked about what women are thinking, now that they know he is gay. Probably my favorite quote of this book.
67. Anyone Would
“Real life isn’t like television. It’s not always beautiful.”
68. A Girlfriend
What might you feel if your crush had a girlfriend? “That’s just how it goes.”
69. As a Friend
Not being a boyfriend, is still allowed to be a very solid Friend.
70. The Doll
Do we all have that cute keepsake that someone casually gave us?
71. The Right
Isn’t there a right to tell another person how you feel about them? Why do we feel we can’t tell them?
72. Capable
Just because you aren’t the BEST, doesn’t mean you aren’t capable.
73. Like OO
The innocence of younger kids let them give compliments that are from the heart, but are ones that given when older can get misconstrued. Such as positive comparison of how a girl looks to a cute boy.
74. Even if it Never works Out
Another favorite here…
Mom’s gay friend (Mr. Tono) from work: “So getting to be with him and have fun with him every day made life better. I think it was just really nice to have someone I liked back then. Sure, it wasn’t ever going to work out. But I definitely don’t regret falling for him in the first place.
”
75. How You really Feel
Younger brother Yuri has learned to just say he doesn’t like someone (if they ask), rather than be vague, since this state of ‘maybe’ has led to multiple confusing continuations of approaches he was not trying to encourage.
76. Best Friend
Mr. Tono with another gold nuggett…
When his crush/friend in high school was switching to a new school, he still signed his yearbook to “Best Friend”.
“That’s simply how it went for me. Don’t forget that my story is just one of manuy possibilities. You can’t assume that all gay men will think the same.”
Later in conversation:
Mr Tono: “I actually saw my old crush for the first time in a while the other day.”
Mom: “Oh! How is he? Same as always. Just as cool as ever!”
Mr. Tono: “Oh, but he doesn’t hold a candle to my partner!”
77. Marriage
Mom: “I just hope our sons choose a life that will make them happy too.”
78. As a Guy
Interesting that Dad thinks lesbians are fine, but two men in love was gross.
Mom sees this as a bit of reality that needs to be worked on.
79. Stop It, Mom
Mom’s acceptance of Daigo as an awesome friend, has Mom pushing a bit too hard on her son to hang out with him.
80. Girlfriends
The pressure of simply hanging out with a girl automatically gets the rumor-mill going about “girlfriend”
81. A Nasty Person
“Whether you like or hate someone probably changes how you see them.”
82. Hiroki
Daigo to Hiroki: “You’re amazing, you know that?”
Hiroki: Uh, huh? Wh-What, now? What makes you say that?”
Daigo: “You just are. That’s what I like about you”
83. From Now On
Younger bro Yuri is thinking it was Hiroki that was the one pulling away from Daigo.
Hiroki’s crush on Daigo was weighing on Hiroki who felt the world could see through him. So Hiroki is just keeping Daigo as a friend.
84. The Doll 2
When Mom notices that Hiroki’s little doll is no longer on his backpack:
Mom: “Hiroki, did your doll come lose from your backpack again?”
Hiroki: “Nah. I just took him off! I still have him!’
What an understatement!
Another solid 5*
Each of the 21 mini-chapters are about 6 pages long. They touch on advancing but different things that realistically come up in the life of a gay boy- at least I think he is gay ;). Hiroki never really ever overtly comes out, but all the signals are there. He has such a positive community of friends and family! The idealism here mixes perfectly with the realism making this whole series an exemplary and addictive experience for everyone (straight or lgbtq) to be reading.
Selecting some favorite mini-chapter-highlights...
64. Bathhouse
Even solid hetero Dad admits to not liking the bath house trips when young. To much ‘comparing’ going on.
65. Queer
We can easily over-think what is queer on TV.
66. I’m a Man
“Liking men doesn’t make you a woman inside”. Profound advice from a guy at Mom’s workplace who gets asked about what women are thinking, now that they know he is gay. Probably my favorite quote of this book.
67. Anyone Would
“Real life isn’t like television. It’s not always beautiful.”
68. A Girlfriend
What might you feel if your crush had a girlfriend? “That’s just how it goes.”
69. As a Friend
Not being a boyfriend, is still allowed to be a very solid Friend.
70. The Doll
Do we all have that cute keepsake that someone casually gave us?
71. The Right
Isn’t there a right to tell another person how you feel about them? Why do we feel we can’t tell them?
72. Capable
Just because you aren’t the BEST, doesn’t mean you aren’t capable.
73. Like OO
The innocence of younger kids let them give compliments that are from the heart, but are ones that given when older can get misconstrued. Such as positive comparison of how a girl looks to a cute boy.
74. Even if it Never works Out
Another favorite here…
Mom’s gay friend (Mr. Tono) from work: “So getting to be with him and have fun with him every day made life better. I think it was just really nice to have someone I liked back then. Sure, it wasn’t ever going to work out. But I definitely don’t regret falling for him in the first place.
”
75. How You really Feel
Younger brother Yuri has learned to just say he doesn’t like someone (if they ask), rather than be vague, since this state of ‘maybe’ has led to multiple confusing continuations of approaches he was not trying to encourage.
76. Best Friend
Mr. Tono with another gold nuggett…
When his crush/friend in high school was switching to a new school, he still signed his yearbook to “Best Friend”.
“That’s simply how it went for me. Don’t forget that my story is just one of manuy possibilities. You can’t assume that all gay men will think the same.”
Later in conversation:
Mr Tono: “I actually saw my old crush for the first time in a while the other day.”
Mom: “Oh! How is he? Same as always. Just as cool as ever!”
Mr. Tono: “Oh, but he doesn’t hold a candle to my partner!”
77. Marriage
Mom: “I just hope our sons choose a life that will make them happy too.”
78. As a Guy
Interesting that Dad thinks lesbians are fine, but two men in love was gross.
Mom sees this as a bit of reality that needs to be worked on.
79. Stop It, Mom
Mom’s acceptance of Daigo as an awesome friend, has Mom pushing a bit too hard on her son to hang out with him.
80. Girlfriends
The pressure of simply hanging out with a girl automatically gets the rumor-mill going about “girlfriend”
81. A Nasty Person
“Whether you like or hate someone probably changes how you see them.”
82. Hiroki
Daigo to Hiroki: “You’re amazing, you know that?”
Hiroki: Uh, huh? Wh-What, now? What makes you say that?”
Daigo: “You just are. That’s what I like about you”
83. From Now On
Younger bro Yuri is thinking it was Hiroki that was the one pulling away from Daigo.
Hiroki’s crush on Daigo was weighing on Hiroki who felt the world could see through him. So Hiroki is just keeping Daigo as a friend.
84. The Doll 2
When Mom notices that Hiroki’s little doll is no longer on his backpack:
Mom: “Hiroki, did your doll come lose from your backpack again?”
Hiroki: “Nah. I just took him off! I still have him!’
What an understatement!
Another solid 5*
March 16, 2025
Tomoko is such a wonderful and loving parent to her two probably queer sons. The elder son is dealing with the very normal high school rejection of his crush starting to date someone else, and the younger feels more and more aro-ace and maybe even agender. This is such a gentle, soft parenting story with a lot of sweetness and humor.
December 1, 2022
Takes up topics like body image and the public not being entitled to people's sexuality. And that's just in the first two chapters.
But honestly, growing up and figuring out a friendship is just as fulfilling as a romantic relationship, is a really good mindset to have. Glad to see it here.
But honestly, growing up and figuring out a friendship is just as fulfilling as a romantic relationship, is a really good mindset to have. Glad to see it here.
August 6, 2023
Ahhhh
He took the doll out of his backpack?!?!
This series is so great! I love how the mom is just trying to give her son space to figure himself out but still supports him
He took the doll out of his backpack?!?!
This series is so great! I love how the mom is just trying to give her son space to figure himself out but still supports him
December 20, 2022
This is the first volume where the chapters felt frustratingly short -- most are four or five pages, but there were a few of only two or three pages. Mom barely had time to form a coherent thought about her son, and several of them were sort of weak.
There was a weirdly meta moment where the mom questions the morality of a show that speculates whether a certain person might be gay . . . in a book where the mother spends every page wondering if her son is gay and effectively invites the audience to join in.
Throughout the volume an overarching story is told in tiny increments about a complication in the relationship between the woman's son and the boy she suspects is his crush.
Throw in dad's ongoing homophobia, and this volume is less cute and amusing than previous ones though still engaging enough for a thumbs up.
There was a weirdly meta moment where the mom questions the morality of a show that speculates whether a certain person might be gay . . . in a book where the mother spends every page wondering if her son is gay and effectively invites the audience to join in.
Throughout the volume an overarching story is told in tiny increments about a complication in the relationship between the woman's son and the boy she suspects is his crush.
Throw in dad's ongoing homophobia, and this volume is less cute and amusing than previous ones though still engaging enough for a thumbs up.
May 1, 2023
In many ways, this series is about learning to be a good ally. It can sometimes mean just quietly being there, rather than (as the protagonist learns) talking to trying to be overtly supportive. While the series frames it as being about LGBTQIA+ allyship, it's really true for life in general, and the gentle warmth of this volume in particular drives that home.
November 18, 2024
I find this series very adorable but its dragging on too much. I also don’t like the way the homophobic dad is handled.
AND CAN HE JUST COME OUT ALREADY OMG
AND CAN HE JUST COME OUT ALREADY OMG
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
August 22, 2025
Translated from the Japanese by Leighann Harvey.
The penultimate installment in this YA Manga felt stilted and odd. And preachy. Something about this one didn't sit as well for me as the rest of the series.
The penultimate installment in this YA Manga felt stilted and odd. And preachy. Something about this one didn't sit as well for me as the rest of the series.
February 17, 2024
Okay this was the best one because something actually HAPPENS and I feel very sad for Hiroki ☹️☹️ and I actively want to read the next one now!
August 10, 2023
Nothing but endless praise for this series <3
June 2, 2023
Cliffhanger 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭??????
May 4, 2023
Đọc tập này vừa vui vừa buồn. Trải nghiệm crush có bồ chắc không chỉ Hiroki phải trải qua mà nhiều người (LGBT+ hay không) cũng đã từng gặp phải. Chắc bạn nam này cũng phải trải qua nhiều giây phút suy nghĩ về mối quan hệ cũng như cách đối xử sao cho phù hợp với Daigo. Cố lên.
Yuri cũng thể hiện sự sâu sắc đáng khen trong tập này. Phần lớn mối quan hệ nam-nữ không phải tình bạn, nhưng không nhất tất cả đều phải vậy. Mình tin Yuri cũng sẽ sớm tìm được người bạn mà em ấy có thể sẻ chia nhiều điều.
Người mẹ cũng đã trưởng thành hơn và thấu hiểu tâm trạng của những đứa con trai của mình, qua những cuộc trò chuyện với bố hay anh chàng đồng nghiệp. Cả nhà này ai cũng dễ thương :)).
Yuri cũng thể hiện sự sâu sắc đáng khen trong tập này. Phần lớn mối quan hệ nam-nữ không phải tình bạn, nhưng không nhất tất cả đều phải vậy. Mình tin Yuri cũng sẽ sớm tìm được người bạn mà em ấy có thể sẻ chia nhiều điều.
Người mẹ cũng đã trưởng thành hơn và thấu hiểu tâm trạng của những đứa con trai của mình, qua những cuộc trò chuyện với bố hay anh chàng đồng nghiệp. Cả nhà này ai cũng dễ thương :)).
August 9, 2023
This series continues to hit. Such a wholesome slice-of-life manga about a mother and her love for her sons.
April 4, 2024
This series is so wholesome.
December 9, 2023
This series is starting to get a bit...boring? Also, I would have done something DRASTIC if my mother had spent half as much time as this lady does contemplating the sexuality of her teenage son I'm just saying.
July 6, 2024
4.5⭐️
June 23, 2023
healing my inner queer self
August 5, 2025
3.75 Read in french. I think this was the best volume yet. We really get to see the inner worlds of the characters. The son's relationship with Daigonreminds me of those intense friendships of my youth/young adulthood
May 19, 2023
I don't think this is for me.
I've said this in every review: it's extremely cute but it's so slow and repetitive, and my general cynicism means I suspect it'll be another five or ten books before something changes.
And as much as I like the titular son, because it's told from the point of view of the mother there's so much speculation on what he's going through, she tends to assume the best but it's all clearly taking its toll on the little gay boy.
I might come back to this at some point but the glacial progression isn't working for me.
I've said this in every review: it's extremely cute but it's so slow and repetitive, and my general cynicism means I suspect it'll be another five or ten books before something changes.
And as much as I like the titular son, because it's told from the point of view of the mother there's so much speculation on what he's going through, she tends to assume the best but it's all clearly taking its toll on the little gay boy.
I might come back to this at some point but the glacial progression isn't working for me.
November 22, 2022
4 - 4.5 stars.
I think this is my favorite volume of the series so far. I really felt that Hiroki had grown up a little, which was so interesting to see. Daigo getting a girlfriend and Hiroki dealing with that in his own way was very relatable. I also liked that we got a chapter in Daigo's perspective and saw how he viewed Hiroki and their friendship. I still really love all the characters of this story and seeing them grow as people (the dad wasn't so annoying in this volume but still irked that he thought lesbians were hot but is grossed out by gay men)
I hope that there are more volumes of this series in the future.
I think this is my favorite volume of the series so far. I really felt that Hiroki had grown up a little, which was so interesting to see. Daigo getting a girlfriend and Hiroki dealing with that in his own way was very relatable. I also liked that we got a chapter in Daigo's perspective and saw how he viewed Hiroki and their friendship. I still really love all the characters of this story and seeing them grow as people (the dad wasn't so annoying in this volume but still irked that he thought lesbians were hot but is grossed out by gay men)
I hope that there are more volumes of this series in the future.
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
August 4, 2023
I'd say this is the best volume of the series so far. I can't wait until the release of volume five. I hope we get to hear directly from Hiroki himself there. Plus, I really have to mention how much I appreciate his brother, mother, and Mr. Tono as well.
October 25, 2024
I really love this one! And love that it gets a bit more deep with each volume. Acceptance, being gay, and more. I am curious to see how it ends~ Especially now with Daigo having a girlfriend. Plus, I hope that dad is able to accept his son should he come out.
December 23, 2025
The story continues with the mom trying to find out more about LGBT and how to support her possibly gay son.
The story is about usually everyday scenario that would make it uneasy for the young man who hasn't really come out yet.
The first one is the bathhouse. It is common for Japanese to go to the bathhouse together. Her son is a bit self-conscious about being naked in front of other people. That's common for people who are self-aware of their body and worry about body image. The mom helps by giving her son some weight so he is working out and improving his own sense of self.
The crush that he has has a girlfriend now. She worries about him as his best friend hasn't come to the house as often now. It turns out that it is his son who is doing the distancing. Her son is being considerate and wants his best friend to have more time to spend with his new girlfriend.
Being young and being considerate is the best part of growing up. It is the best time because usually it is the most innocent time period. The girl next door, who is crushing on her son, is complaining about her best friend because he is too honest. His son is quite self-aware when it comes to his ability to sing in public.
There is a show on TV that makes fun of people who are suspected of being gay. It shows through her comment that it is not a good show, and it is not good for the TV show producer to laugh at people like that. The father learned more about being gay through a coworker who is getting married. He is slowly changing, but still influenced negatively by the social opinions around him.
It is a good manga to show the issue with parents who suspect that they might have a gay son. The social stigma is real enough, as the cultural conformity is there. Like most parents, Mom wants to be as supportive to her children.
Her son is growing up fine, and it is good to have such a supportive mom.
5 stars.
The story is about usually everyday scenario that would make it uneasy for the young man who hasn't really come out yet.
The first one is the bathhouse. It is common for Japanese to go to the bathhouse together. Her son is a bit self-conscious about being naked in front of other people. That's common for people who are self-aware of their body and worry about body image. The mom helps by giving her son some weight so he is working out and improving his own sense of self.
The crush that he has has a girlfriend now. She worries about him as his best friend hasn't come to the house as often now. It turns out that it is his son who is doing the distancing. Her son is being considerate and wants his best friend to have more time to spend with his new girlfriend.
Being young and being considerate is the best part of growing up. It is the best time because usually it is the most innocent time period. The girl next door, who is crushing on her son, is complaining about her best friend because he is too honest. His son is quite self-aware when it comes to his ability to sing in public.
There is a show on TV that makes fun of people who are suspected of being gay. It shows through her comment that it is not a good show, and it is not good for the TV show producer to laugh at people like that. The father learned more about being gay through a coworker who is getting married. He is slowly changing, but still influenced negatively by the social opinions around him.
It is a good manga to show the issue with parents who suspect that they might have a gay son. The social stigma is real enough, as the cultural conformity is there. Like most parents, Mom wants to be as supportive to her children.
Her son is growing up fine, and it is good to have such a supportive mom.
5 stars.
May 11, 2025
A brilliant cosy read. This manga explored a couple of the characters emotions and how they handled them. I twas interesting to see some of the story from Daigo's view as well as how teenagers handle judgement. I was suprised with this volume. It had an interesting angle.
December 30, 2022
i forgot that it was in a several story format,
i just really like how thoughtful the mom is
i just really like how thoughtful the mom is
August 18, 2024
I didn't like that one as much as the previous ones. I am interested to see when the story finally takes some forms otherwise it will be repetitive at some point.
September 20, 2024
I love the way this tackles the complicated emotions of having a first crush. It’s so achingly true and realistic. So adorable and wholesome.
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