Hulking & Wiccan have found their happy ending at last…or have they? When a magical artifact shows them the paths not taken in life and love, will Billy and Teddy find their way back to each other? Will they even want to? The hit Infinity comic by Josh Trujillo (UNITED STATES OF CAPTAIN AMERICA) and Jodi Nishijima (SPIDER-GWEN: GWENVERSE) appears in print for the first time!
Really weak. Starts off with Wiccan and Hulkling having a gay dinner party in space with Northstar, his husband, and Iceman. As if all the gay men of the Marvel universe all hang out. I sincerely doubt these two young gay men would be hanging out with these old guys that I don't think had even met before. I have plenty of gay friends. It's not a club they all hang out in.
Then Wiccan and Hulking get sucked into separate realities where they are with other people. The writing is all very slight with little substance. The art isn't very good either. It's heavily manga influenced. They are drawn with the faces of children and outsized bodies. I didn't care for it at all.
in these last few days, I read everything I could find about Wiccan & Hulkling & I guess this is the last so far. when the next issue coming anyway???
I love them soooooooo much!
a little recap, the order you might want to read- almost the way I read, or figured I should have when I've read one in the wrong order:
I saw their first appearance in 2005 Young Avengers, seeing both their developments through the series, some Space stuff that helped Teddy's backstory forming into a different path than other Marvel characters & the world expanding. a little drama accompanying the thrills in 2013 Young Avengers (also loved that) I saw them growing up, become a part of different teams (Strikeforce- New Avengers) the troubles they dealt with the help of other Avengers in "Empyre".
it might have spoilers about earlier, & I mean their relationship development (though this was the first thing I figured when I was searching about them in the first place. but feel free to skip the paragraph)
we saw them in a relationship, they were engaged, had their place, & (finally!) had a wedding (yay!), hurried & private & on Earth, then a proper Space wedding (double yay!) -"Empyre Aftermath"-, a honeymoon mixed with superhero-ing stuff (of course!)- "King in Black"- & then in "the Last Annihilation", along the battle with Durmamo & another gathering of superheroes to save the universe, we saw a little past too. (the past I was waiting for!) soooooo love them!
& here was the drama I like to see happen for my favourite fictional couples, especially since it started with a panicked thought &... yeah, you know how Billy is. (though my theories were correct, but it didn't lower the level of enjoyment or surprise, reading that they were true. I was also whooping!) I loved it. & the art design was so cute!
So, we're supposed to think that in the back of their minds, Hulkling and Wiccan wondered if they should be paired with boyfriends whom are more like themselves rather than their partner. Teddy got a distressingly plus-sized alien brute (Is he secretly a chubby chaser?), and Billy got an ephemeral Grecian twink. Neither of these "love interests" got very much characterization. At least Billy's has the story element that he is cursed to be a phantom in this world, so that provided some measure of conflict and detail. Teddy's new boyfriend has nothing.
Hate this so much. If you're going to try to throw a wrench in the Hulkling and Wiccan romance, A) Don't. And, B) There are no stakes if the homewrecker has no personality or redeeming qualities to make you consider them a real choice.
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I don't care for the artwork. Neither of them are wearing costumes that I particularly like, and they're drawn in a distractingly bulky way. Hulkling and Wiccan both are drawn with baby faces but overly muscled, grown bodies.
Why did the writer show Hulkling and Wiccan hosting a dinner party with three older gay men, none of whom they even really know? Northstar, his husband Kyle, and then an awkward fifth wheel of Iceman. This all made no sense, and was vaguely offensive. Straight people think that gay men just naturally gather in groups? Even as strangers? You think we throw dinner parties for strangers JUST because they're gay?
Even setting aside that, this is a terrible group. Northstar used to have a monster crush on Iceman back when Iceman was closeted, so Northstar believed that it was a hopeless crush on a straight guy. Then Northstar married someone else and Iceman came out. So, Iceman was not just an awkward fifth wheel present without a date, but he was also potentially a sore point in Northstar and Kyle's relationship.
Terrible group to get together. Just, terrible.
Then we're supposed to think that Wiccan and Hulkling moved to outer space, claimed the Kree/Skrull Empire, and never once discussed when/whether they would return to Earth? Seriously? They're a couple that has been together since high school, but their communication skills are just that poor?
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So, in conclusion, this miniseries (?) was utterly pointless.
Trying to capitalize on the success of Agatha Harkness in Wandavision, Agatha Harkness shows up here looking slightly younger than usual and displaying a completely different, evil personality from what she usually has in the comics. This is an ongoing problem that I have been dealing with for the better part of 30 years as a comic book fan-- television or movie adaptations prompting the writers to retcon the actual comics to match.
Agatha Harkness has almost never been a villain (that distinction falls to her Satanic children and grandchildren), and she certainly has never had this coy trickster personality before. Just, no.
But there weren't even any real stakes. Wiccan and Hulkling briefly checked out an alternate reality in which they were dating other people. Wiccan undid it by simply speaking aloud what he wanted to happen. Just like always.
What, are we supposed to think it's so meaningful that now Wiccan and Hulkling wonder about guys outside their marriage? It's normal to look and wonder. My husband and I regularly talk about guys we think are cute (both celebrities and people in real life). Are we supposed to worry that their marriage is threatened by the retroactive addition of ex-boyfriends in their life?
Teddy and Billy are learning to acclimate to their new circumstances-- specifically that Teddy has assumed the throne of King of Space. Teddy, despite some natural reservations, is committing to the role and determined to give it his best go. Billy, meanwhile, misses their life on Earth and seems to be operating on the belief that their new circumstances are temporary.
I love this premise. As a big Billy and Teddy fan, it's important to me to see the two of them grow, and I like it when their relationship is tested by realistic problems. Well, realistic within context.
The problem is that this premise is much stronger than the execution. I don't think it's the writer who is the issue, but the extremely limited format. If each part had been as long as a normal comic, we might've had a better paced story with stronger resolution. What we get is Billy and Teddy seemingly implanted into an alternate world with a new dream partner, while both are unable to shake the feeling their missing something. A great idea, but we spend so little time with the new partners (Eidolon and Goebig) that we don't get a strong sense of these "ideal" partnerships. The story does end with a pretty sad end for both newcomers that I'd love to see get resolved, but it feels like we just from the set-up directly to the end of a second act realization.
The impetus behind the world-shifting is a little confusing as well.
Overall, I think this story has so much untapped potential. I'd love to see it get a full redo in a longer format. Oh well, I guess that's what fanfic is for.
I have... such mixed feelings on this. On one hand, I'll read anything that involves Billy, and especially anything with the two of them together, but I can't help but feel like Marvel doesn't ever flesh out their LGBTQ+ characters enough. They always feel like a cheap add-in or just there to check a box. Reducing these two characters who have had such massive arcs since their introduction with Young Avengers seems so lazy and super disappointing, especially following the effects of 'Empyre.' I just don't understand how a wizard who saw every single possible reality where he and his husband are always together has doubts about marrying him and wishes he'd ended up with someone else.
Like most of the Hulkling and Wiccan solo stories, this feels surprisingly small in scope. The shorter page count limits how grand a story can be told. It works fine in this case because the focus is put on exploring their relationship. But since the last story also did that, it feels like this is just treading water until Marvel greenlights a full series for them.
This is an interesting 4-issue story by Josh Trujillo. It's mostly a test for the lovers Teddy and Billy, a sort of what if, will we still find each other. It could've a solid storyline especially for the characters of Goebig and Eidolon. But towards the end it started to show the possibilities if the story was longer. There was real heartbreak in that last issue with those two new characters. There was also the mystery of what Agatha meant for the future of Billy and his powers. Funnily, I read Agatha's dialogue in the voice of Kathryn Hahn which I wonder if intentional.
Jodi Nishijima provided the manhwa art for Teddy and Billy. I like it but I wished Teddy was a bit rough because he's clearly the top here. Especially with how rough and sexy Goebig and Eidolon were. I appreciate the romance with all the kisses and shirtless moments; I want more passion for these two superheroes! Matt Milla gave beautfiul colors especially the backgrounds for this infinity comic.
This was such a short and sweet comic! Wiccan, Hulkling and Agatha are my favorite Marvel characters ever and this story showcased what true love is all about and that nothing can keep you apart. The romance is so sweet and gentle and healthy. It was very heartfelt and the artstyle is just gorgeous! I adored it. Definitely 5 stars through and through for me!
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The story felt weak and very rushed. I wish it could have been developed more to create a bigger challenge and conflict for them, but for what it is, it isn't bad...the length and pace just really hurt the writing.
Noting that I read a print version, not the Kindle version.
I am a big fan of this couple, and the dinner party amused me. I wasn't particularly a fan of the deus ex machina that separated them, although I liked that particular character decades ago. And what was up with the legs? That was weirdly glamorized.
In some situations, I like to see bishonen characters, but when I have a certain picture in my head of what a character looks like, seeing them done in a manga/anime style is jarring to me. Young Avengers characters seem to get this treatment a good bit, but I prefer a more realistic style, or at least more of a traditional Marvel style of artwork. I didn't especially care for Billy rendered in bishonen style, although I could appreciate certain quirks of the style as applied to him. Although this isn't especially the quirk I was thinking of, sparkle is typically associated with him and his powers, so I considered that forgivable.
Iceman is really not supposed to have a bishonen appearance. He's usually -- since the 1960s -- been portrayed as sturdier than that. (Okay, my opinion.) Northstar was always intended to look fey, slim build, pointed ears and all. So kinda-sorta it works better for him. But for him, I have the way Byrne drew him in my head. Slender compared to other characters, elfin, but strong. (And of course I had to go back and read the first dozen issues of Alpha Flight to be sure I was remembering correctly. Pointed ears, pointed chin, broad shoulders, deep chest.) Anyway...
It took me a second reading to figure out the first set of Billy's run-together magic words, but that was priceless. Though I could have wished for a different plot, for me this was definitely worth reading.
I'd classify this as a "Your Mileage May Vary" comic book.
But I kinda like the new characters maybe they can stick around in other ways.
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Hulkling and Wiccan hosting a gay dinner party with Northstar, Kyle and Iceman? And Agatha as a villain? So here for it.
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Oh, that’s it already? Quite a short endeavor. But yay they are back together again. There are literally pages!! of the reunion kiss. 😍👌 So glad Marvel Comics is embracing their queer characters more and more and hope that Marvel Studios is following suite soon. I liked the introduction of Agatha in their world a lot as well as the exploration of Billy missing earth. Wish they would have united the fake partners though. Here on the last issue, I’m gonna praise the art as well. I really liked it. So many beautiful panels. And I am glad they got drawn more mature again not like in the King in Black one shot, where they looked more like high schoolers. They are not young avengers anymore, even though I would love to see them reunite with their old team.
Young Avengers was one of the first superhero comics I read, and I love Billy and Teddy. That’s largely why I’m reading this series, despite not having followed the recent events of Teddy becoming Emperor of the Kree-Skrull Alliance.
In this series, there’s a situation going on where Billy and Teddy are living alternate universe lives with different partners. But they each vaguely remember each other and feel that something is off.
I think the story is cute and I like the new characters that have been introduced (although obviously we know to expect that Billy and Teddy will be together again at the end).
One of my criticisms is that there’s very little happening in each chapter. Although I generally like the new scrolling reading experience in the Infinity Comics (and the artwork choices that are possible with it), several of the ones I’ve read so far seem to have very little story per installment.
I like the art, and some of the writing is clever in this series, but I don’t like the plot. When I picked up this book, I wanted Wiccan & Hulkling, not “William” and his AU boyfriend and Dorrek VIII and his boyfriend. Teddy’s AU boyfriend is so boring and Billy’s was annoying. They weren’t developed and were too much like the boys they were dating which was a little strange to me. Billy and Teddy have never needed to question if they belong together and that’s one of the things I love about them. So I didn’t like that the point of this series was to question that.
For all 4 issues. Bits I liked, other parts not so much. It probably needed more time apart and more focus on the relationships being formed with the others to have any real emotional impact. But honestly, who wants Billy and Teddy apart for any length of time. I had a problem with the lack of communication at the beginning. These two have been together forever, I refuse to believe their communication is that bad. Which meant the miscommunication felt like a plot device.
This is fine. It's cute enough without pushing boundaries and still pushing things like monogamy and one true love. I do miss dinner parties. The art was either great or just okay. I'm sad that Marvel seems to be moving all the ongoing series with queer characters by queer writers to the Marvel Unlimited platform.