Took me longer then normal to finish reading Hunting humans. This is a perfect example as to why I prefer to read books about a specific case rather then a book about multple subjects. Never really giving a clear picture into the killers. The book is nothing more then looking at a case file and placing it into the author's framework. I thought this was suppose to be a study? Instead it's basically a critic watching a movie and reviewing it all within a idealogical context. I wanted more.
Some cases are reviewed literally within a couple paragraphs. I could of learned and understood each case better if I had read books on these cases. So in that sense it is good advertising. I was never into the case of Albert Desalvo, but after reading Hunting humans....seems like a pretty interesting case to look into.
One of my problems is the fact that it seems to dismiss the psychological factors and at one point even compares the genetic factors to the pseudo science of phrenology and the XYY hypothesis.
Or at least it doesn't make it clear. Which might explain why I've seen other reviews with contradictory statements about this. Which means he didn't make it clear and confused the issue with his readers.
Several times he says "a lot of people are abused." or he looks at cases where the killer wasn't abused and pretty much incites that as an example. His argument is pretty much "A lot of people are abused and don't grow up to be killers." and "not all killers came from abusive childhoods."
Then at the very end of the book he says these killers have issues that play into it, so he doesn't deny it, but he downplays it, and it took until the last few pages for him to even say this and what about all the stuff he said before where it seemed to downplay it and imply it's largely cultural?
Yet he never looks at the opposite extreme of that where killer's came from incredibly privileged families and developed a narcissistic personality. A combination of nurture and nature. A narcissistic personality that allows them to feel as though they are better then others and therefor can use and abuse others who are "lower then them." Instead he once again states the social and economic pressures. Not the fact that they were raised by narcissistic parents and there might be a biological component.
I also noticed that when he talked about Ted Bundy he never talked about his grandfather [who pretended to be his father.] who would abuse cats in front of him, abuse his daughters [Ted's aunt and mother.] verbally and even physically where he would toss them down the stairs if they stayed up to late. This was a violent man who Ted admired and saw as a role model. A real life role model.
It also never focuses on why Ted Bundy or any of the others specifically saw these hierarchy issues at such a young age and were very much effected by it and why they became serial killers as opposed to others. At one point he brings up lack of families or other facts, but many serial killers have families, have stuff to loose. Serial killers like John Wayne Gacy, Israel Keyes, Robin Gecht, etc had successful businesses.
Also I felt like saying "A lot of people feel isolated and disenfranchised, and yet don't become a serial killer or go on a shooting spree." Instead they kill them selves, become a nazi or a social justice warrior, fundamentalist religious person, or something else less harmful as killing people.
Only really near the end does he implore other factors without ever really explaining it.
At one point it also seems to dismiss the idea that one part of insecurity is the killer's size. For instance, it states that Mark Essex was a small man and several psychologist and so forth pointed this out as a possible factor, In that he was insecure about his height. The author totally dismisses this. I don't know if Essex's small frame bothered him and played a role in him possibly having a flawed image of him self, which played into his fantasy of wanting to be a "revolutionary." going after Whites and "pigs." but with many serial killers and mass murderers stuff like this along with speech disabilities, weight, and so forth do play some role. This is more then just cultural economics, but also simply how you feel about your self. Which is innate.
The book near the end goes into the pre industrial age and Leyton is right in a lot of ways, but misses a lot of points.
He claims that the only serial killers were wealthy aristocrats [cites Bathory and Rais.] and the others killed for profit.
Yet Peter Stumpp was brutally killing young peasant girls and leaving their dismembered body parts around Germany. He was a simple farmer. He wasn't the only one either who was a simple peasant who committed atrocious crimes.
I also have a problem with this because they were the ones that were documented.
Murder would of been incredibly hard to link. It wouldn't be until the 18th century France that the first serial killer profile was made. So when I say "documented" I mean documented. I am willing to bet there were multiple serial killers around this time who were just never ever caught or had their murders linked.
Of course the elite who did atrocious acts and were caught would be heavily documented while peasants weren't.
Also, this was a time during a lot of cruelty. Knights would invade villages after a war. They would kill, they would rape, steal, etc. So those who would of probably become serial killers would of found a legalized form in the army.
Also they had other problems to worry about. Constant bloody war and the plague which killed a large portion of them. War is another reason for my case of "documented." because in some of these wars documents were lost to history. So theres no telling how many cases of serial murder were in fact discovered but lost to history due to war.
The best part of the book is when he talks near the end about the industrialization but never really goes into detail and doesn't look at it fully.
Many serial killers in California during the 70s loved to use the freeway. Same in the 80s and the reason was because it made it easier to pick up strangers and to get away. The invention of the car and the highway as well. So while it mentions the expansion of the US and so forth he doesn't really go into it.
In the beginning the author dismisses serial killer's intelligence. He absurdly compares the absolutely laughable Hannibal Lector to other serial killers to make his point. Very much like a movie critic criticizing a gory and violent 80s movie with a 1930s movie. Using an extreme example.
He then states the truth is that the ONLY reason why serial killers are able to get away with it for so long and kill so many because they attack strangers. This is one reason, but another reason is because they attack what are referred to as the "less dead." Meaning they are less valued by society. Albert Fish said he liked to target black children to torture and abuse because of racist cops who wouldn't dedicate any time to try and catch him. Another serial killer referred to poor children as "throw away kids." Prostitutes are a popular target for this reason. Instead Leyton describes this as simply the middle class killers going after the lower class. Serial killers are normally described as "in the bright range." typically. The only people who see serial killers as all brilliant masterminds who are larger then life are people in hollywood and people who believe in an absurd exaggeration portrayed in fiction. It's unfair to compare real life serial killers to a gross exaggeration as Hannibal Lector. No serious person is saying they are as accomplished and larger then life as Lector. James Fox who Leyton cites in this very book says serial killers tend to be "cunning" others would say "street smart." and of course that doesn't mean highly intelligent. So I would argue that this is a straw man or he's speaking to the poorly misinformed who think they know everything about serial killers because they watched too much CSI.
The biggest problem I have is the fact that it contradicts our state right now.
It was first published in the 80s and the revised version was 2003. Since 1994 the crime rate in the U.S. has gone down and the serial murder rate has also gone down. Mass murder/shootings are the same, although it really got worse during the 80s due to Reagan economics and all that came with it.
I highly recommend Steven Pinker who wrote The Better Angels of Our Nature: Why Violence Has Declined.
If everything Leyton said was correct. Wouldn't the opposite be true? Wouldn't it be worse or just about the same as before?
A lot of what he says is correct, but doesn't go deep enough, too dismissive, and or doesn't explain all of it. He also doesn't really qualify his statements. Now because I am a true crime fanatic who studies several cases like Leyton does....I know what he is referring to when he talks about "freedom" gave way to multiple murder rising. So you could argue that for a layman who hasn't thought this through, it's not as insightful as it could be.
It mentions that a few of the killers were "paranoid" and he mentions the word "psychopath." but never goes into it. He says that they kill for "trivial reasons." He never mentions schizotypal personality disorder, he never talks about paranoid personality disorder. Instead he blames the paranoia on pure cultural factors. Both of them have shown to have to be probably linked to relatives who had schizophrenia. Which suggests that theres a biological factor.
I must also point out a problem I have with a case he mentions a few times but never actually goes into it. He mentions James Huberty who shot and killed 21 people at a Mcdonald's in 1984. He claims several times it was a racist attack because -
1.He was racist against mexicans.
2.The majority killed were mexicans.
It's one of my all time favorite cases and I've researched it extensively.
It deserves a lot more then "he hated mexicans, he killed mexicans. It was a racist attack. Lost his job. That's all you need to know." which is all Leyton really explains.
James Huberty's attack was not racist. I base this on several reasons.
1.He hated everyone. His neighbor said the Huberty's "seemed to be against the world a lot of the time and against people."
2.He moved with his family to Mexico because he hated the United states.
3.Mexicans just became another segment of society to be put on his "hate list." for rejecting him.
4.He told his wife "Society had it's chance" and "I'm going hunting for humans." If he was gonna target specifically mexicans, then he would of said mexicans.
5.He went to the Mcdonald's several times and knew when it would be packed, and it was in full view of his apartment he shared with his family.
6.He shot anyone, including white people.
7.It was a largely hispanic neighborhood. Which would explain why the majority of the victims were mexicans. In fact it's one of the top cities in the U.S with the largest hispanic population. Reminds me of psychics saying "oh he was polish" or he was "cuban" and when you look at the area it has a very large cuban or polish population. So the psychic is obviously just betting more then 50/50 it's gonna be a cuban or polish person.
8.He had a lot of trouble with his neighbors and many of them were white. Made threats towards his neighbors.
9.He had been and felt alienated all of his life. Since childhood.
10.He wanted to do it before moving to San Ysidro. Before he was fired he told a coworker "if this is the end of me making a living with my family, I'm going to take everyone down with me." this was in Ohio. He later attempted suicide. Then once in California surrounded by hispanics he falsely confessed to a made up crime to get him self thrown into prison and then called a mental help hotline. All last attempts to stop him self. He was fired a week before the massacre. The final straw.
Huberty hated everyone and his attack was a statement and revenge against a society that alienated him since childhood and destroyed any happiness he did and could achieve and this included Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. Both white men. In fact Huberty believed Ronald Reagan was in a conspiracy against him along with the rest of American society. This is why he left the U.S and moved to Mexico for a short time. Huberty also saw no future because it was 1984 at the height of the cold war. It's clear he had added anxiety about the nuclear threat. He was obsessed with survivalism. His wife gave him one last chance to try and build a future again [told him their money came back from selling their home and maybe they could buy their own business to bounce back up.] and he rejected it. He most probably saw it as just another probable disappointment and was sick of it all. He had enough.
Huberty's attack was not like Marc Lepine who went into a college and killed 14 women. He divided the men and women in one room and said "I hate feminist" before shooting and executing them. He blamed women for him failing to get a degree at that school. As another expert said condescendingly "they were taking man's jobs away." Lepine blamed women for his failures. Leyton largely blamed Lepine's abusive misogynistic father. Never brings up the psychological issues Lepine was dealing with. Once again....too simplistic. Not the full story.
Huberty blamed society and over all white politicians who "controlled your government." as his wife said in an interview. Politicians who made economic decisions which resulted in Huberty losing a job he had for 14 years.
I must also point out that Huberty was paranoid and had a history of aggression since childhood. Where he would get into rages and attack people.
Leyton also at one point sounds like he is blaming movies and in fact does. Particularly action movies that portray strong "manly" men shooting people. He also mentions what is known as the Mean world syndrome but like everything else barely goes into it. That is my biggest problem....he mentions it but doesn't qualify what he is saying.
As Marilyn Manson said "The president was shooting bombs over seas, yet...I'm a bad guy because I sing a couple rock and roll songs and who is the bigger influence? The president or Marilyn Manson? I'd like to say me, but I'm gonna go with the president." same goes with the Mean world syndrome. Which was made into a movie where the researchers explain how this works. It isn't fantasy violence, it's the blurring of the lines between fiction and reality. Particularly the news and TV shows that show victimization.
The narrator who is also a researcher and best friends with Dr.George Gerbner who coined the term "mean world syndrom" explained that "it isn't enough to analyze individual TV programs or films, or video games. The entire media context is what matters. How one story or another blends into another." to enforce a specific worldview. They mention how in movies you have hispanic criminals. Which is all well and fine as far as I am concerned. but then you look at TV and as the narrator says "In the real world they don't fair any better." where hispanics are brought up obsessively over and over again within "the context of a single issue" and that is immigration. In the documentary they show America's most wanted's episode on the border patrol. I remember watching that episode when it first aired and it was obvious why. It was aired during the time where illegal immigration was a big issue and there was debate about wasting taxpayer's money to build a wall. I was in high school at the time and we had to do a report on our views on immigration. That is how serious of an issue it was. The documentary mentions that Hispanics are mentioned only 2% of the time in the news and yet are mentioned 70% in the Lou Dobb's news reports all within the context of illegal immigration.
We saw the same thing with the satanic panic. The exorcist just came out along with Rosemary's baby. You had metal and rock and roll bands using satanism to scare people as a gimmick....all of which is fine in my book, but then you had in the real world preachers trying to scare people claiming these things possessed evil spirits and were "witch craft" trying to enter your soul and bring you down to hell. You had posers who killed and mutilated animals because of the made up stories by preachers and this blended into fiction as well. You had the satanic child day care ritual abuse scare where day care workers were accused of raping children within a satanic cult all of which was found to be totally made up. Then you had isolated incidents like Richard Rimarez. You had talk shows talking about how 'satanism is on the rise." you had preachers looking at innocent toys and games and calling them 'satanic", you had fraudulent books like Michelle remembers and The satan seller, books about former "members of the satanic cult." The claims about Michelle were absurd and false, and the author of The satan seller was exposed as a fundamentalist christian fraud. All of this mixed together to form a narrative. The narrative being that there is a world wide satanic conspiracy where masses of children are being raped and sacrificed to satan. Scaring the hell out of America.
Is this really fiction's fault? No. I blame the mass media and all those preachers and pastors.
Does Elliot Leyton agree with me? I can't tell.....that's a problem.
I'm a child of the 90s and I saw the same thing with aliens and so forth.
Richard Dawkins back in the 90s blamed the awesome TV fictional show The X files for spreading pseudo science and conspiracy theory nonsense and so forth. Which is once again wrong and misses the big picture.
As I said I was a child of the 90s when The X files came out. You also had shows like Unsolved mysteries and In search of. All shows that reported to be factual and reinforcing the belief without any skepticism. In fact a famous skeptic investigator almost made it on the show but was quickly kicked off the show being told "our show is called UNSOLVED. We don't need anyone solving mysteries." He pretty much showed that the moth man was likely a Barn owl, not an alien creature. Instead the show dismissed his research and suggested it was an alien. Doing the whole "I'm just asking questions." pathetic excuse making. I also remember the news supporting this nonsense. They had a two hour news report about UFOs with barely ANY skeptic view. I forget which news station. Might of been MSNBC or Fox. You had the infamous alien autopsy being payed on national TV. All of this made me believe aliens and El Chupacabra existed. Not the X files. Even as a child I knew it was pure fiction clearly inspired and playing off those beliefs with their own spin on it, X files never pretended to be factual.
That is what the Mean world syndrome is describing and I don't blame fiction. I blame real life role models such as the U.S. army, our presidents, our citizens, etc. At the same time there is such a thing as fiction being made for propaganda purposes. I would suggest Rambo is not U.S. military propaganda. The exact opposite actually. Rambo gave him self up early in the film, the police shoot at him and make it escalate. At the end of the film his army commander tells him "it's over." Rambo begins crying because of PTSD from the war and an indifferent society. Not a pro war or "might makes right." movie. Stallone even compared Rambo to Frankenstein in interviews. I mention Rambo because Leyton cites Rambo in his blaming fictional media glorifying war and justifying violent retaliation.
Could of been written far better. A big disappointment. I wanted an in depth look into the matter.
I give it a 3 instead of a 2 because I think it's valuable for those who have never heard the sociological economical aspect of "multiple murder" before.