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Captain America (2004) (Collected Editions) #17

Captain America & Bucky: Old Wounds

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The original Human Torch guest-stars as Captain America teams up with Bucky in the present day... for the first time?! Who is this uncanny twin to Cap's first sidekick, and where did he come from? The deadly legacy of the original Human Torch and the mad android Adam II are revealed! Rising stars James Asmus and Francesco Francavilla join Eisner award winner Ed Brubaker for a rollicking adventure into the future of the star-spangled Avenger's past!

Collecting: Captain America & Bucky 625-628

112 pages, Hardcover

First published June 13, 2012

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James Asmus

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James began writing for live theater; creating sketch comedy, stand-up, plays and musicals. After a few years writing and performing in New Orleans and Chicago, a run of one his shows in New York garnered an offer to write for Marvel Comics' X-Men. A lifelong comics fan, James pounced on the opportunity and would go on to write Marvel titles like Uncanny X-Men, Captain America & Bucky, Gambit, Runaways, Generation Hope, Deadpool Team-Up and more.
His work for other comics publishers includes Thief of Thieves with Robert Kirkman (creator of the Walking Dead) and The End Times of Bram & Ben (which he co-created with Jim Festante) for Image Comics. In 2014 James signed a year-long exclusive deal with Valiant Entertainment where he wrote The Delinquents and Quantum & Woody - the latter of which received 6 nominations at the 2014 Harvey Awards; including Best Writer, Best New Talent, and Special Award for Humor noms for James.
He currently lives in Los Angeles with his wife Mara and son Devlin. There, James has written for film, television, and video games. But he plans to create comics as long as you'll have him.

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Profile Image for Scott.
2,269 reviews269 followers
March 15, 2019
Unexceptional Cap story - basically, a corrupt military officer is in control of killer androids - in which the bright spot was the character Fred Davis. Davis, an elderly man in a retirement home, was once a substitute Bucky after the original's 'death' in the waning days of WWII. The flashback / reminiscing scenes were good, but the modern-day angle -- with the exception of a disturbing (and sort of crass, given the present 'real world' parallels) scene showing a Bucky-imposter android engaged in a mass shooting spree on the streets of New York City, solely to attract Cap's response -- was mediocre.
Profile Image for Leo.
385 reviews52 followers
January 14, 2015
This book was a bit confusing. The story opens with this random (sorry) guy who fought as Bucky alongside Captain America (but not Steve Rogers, another rando) after the original Cap and Bucky were killed. But it took me a while to realize that, I'm not sure if because it wasn't well explained, I don't pay much attention when reading a Cap book (he's so boring...) or both. Anyway, the Human Torch is around too helping some of the randos give chase to an evil scientific (or something like that, but aren't they always?) and his army or robots that dress like humans. Run of the mil stuff, nothing much to get out of it, the art is decent, the end.
Profile Image for Drew Canole.
3,188 reviews44 followers
February 19, 2024
I really enjoyed Francesco Francavilla artwork here. I didn't really like the shift to modern times but it's an alright action orientated story.
Profile Image for Quentin Wallace.
Author 34 books178 followers
March 11, 2024
This wasn't bad, but it was more a traditional Cap story rather than the exceptional material that Brubaker had been doing on this run. We get a story focusing on the replacement Cap and Bucky that appeared after the original Cap and Bucky were presumed dead. There's androids and a secret plot, etc. I enjoyed the art, as this was the artist who went on to do some work on Archie's superb horror series.

This wasn't bad by any means, just not quite up to the standards of previous stories in this series.
Profile Image for Connie.
1,606 reviews25 followers
September 26, 2023
I keep meaning to go and read all the collected editions of Captain America, so of course I started with the Bucky ones. I really enjoyed this. Not much else to comment on.
Profile Image for Jaye Berry.
1,973 reviews134 followers
October 11, 2023
The drop in quality is actually insane. I loved loved the last volume so much but this one was so hard to get through or even care about.

This is about a man who was recruited to be Bucky and work with a new Captain America after the originals died. He's in a retirement home now telling his story from back in the day before he gets involved in current time baddies.

I'm sorry but I truly do not give a shit about some random dudes who were Cap / Bucky at some point. There were so many other random men who played Cap & Bucky throughout the time they were gone and I really don't care to hear about any of them?? I care about Bucky Barnes and Steve Rogers, not some other randoms they dug up.

And then I don't particularly give a shit about androids and Adam II like??? Androids are by far the most boring thing to fight. 🙄🙄 Army of robots that look like humans wow so exciting, very cool!!!

Story was confusing beyond that but maybe because I was zooming to get this over with.

Art was good but the color palette kinda annoyed me idk.
Profile Image for Jacob.
1,722 reviews7 followers
December 10, 2012
After reading a few pages I knew something was wrong because I just wasn't feeling it. I wasn't hooked in the story so I had to double check the credits and then I discovered what was quite frankly obvious: the script was written by someone other than Ed Brubaker. Ed is credited for "Story" alone, which means he probably made a plot outline. This story lacks Brubaker's voice, panache, and realism he has brought to Captain America over the course of the last seven or so years. I can't fault the artist, as he always does fine work, it's rather a shame I didn't get to read the work by collaborators I expected and knowing what I know now I wish I never purchased this book as I doubt I'll ever re-read it or want to keep it next to the good Captain America books on the shelf. For fans of Ed Brubaker: buyer beware.
Profile Image for Brandt.
693 reviews17 followers
August 28, 2019
So in my recent reviews of Ed Brubaker's run on Captain America, I think I've made it abundantly clear that given how Brubaker kept dragging out making Steve Rogers Captain America had effectively made me sick of Bucky stories. This is a problem since both this collection and the previous collection are from when the book was called not Captain America but Captain America and Bucky. Since the title of a work is the thing that is likely to set our expectations of what the book is going to be about, I was prepared to be disappointed by this one, being as sick of Bucky as I was.

However, if I have learned one thing about reading Brubaker's Captain America, especially in the early days is that Brubaker does have the capability to throw a curve ball in there that you weren't expecting. In this case, the Bucky in question is not James Buchanan Barnes, but instead Fred Davis, a replacement for Bucky in the waning days of World War II when the president decided that there still needed to be a Captain America and Bucky to keep up American morale. However, while there are flashbacks to Davis' time as Bucky (along with a guy named William Naslund who replaced Cap) most of the action takes place in the present. Steve has finally re-assumed the mantle of Captain America and with Davis and the original Human Torch fights a threat not just to America, but to humanity itself.

The clever thing about this arc is that it is based off a What If? story written by Roy Thomas, which is included in this volume. However, unlike most What If? stories, the point of divergence from the canonical Marvel 616 universe is not as obvious as in most What If? yarns. As such Brubaker and co-writer James Asmus treat it as if it was something that actually happened (why not?) and it leads to an interesting spin on Captain America and Bucky--once I realized my expectations of what the word "Bucky" meant in the title didn't mean what I thought they did, I was completely on board with this arc, and I wasn't disappointed. Many of the upcoming trades follow that Captain America and... structure, with the next one being Hawkeye. While my expectation isn't of something as great as Matt Fraction's take on Clint Barton now that I know I can leave my assumptions at the door, I'm looking forward to these team ups.
Profile Image for Kris Shaw.
1,424 reviews
December 7, 2023
Ed Brubaker took his plot and passed it off baton style to new writer James Asmus. Asmus is no Brubaker. Francavilla's artwork left me cold, as did his coloring. There wasn't much of anything that made me want to turn the page here, and for the first time in a long time I actually put down a book of modern Captain America comics before finishing it.

The What If...? issue from 1977 was horrible. The artwork by Robbins and Springer was laughable at best. I've never been a fan of either artist, but together they manage to accentuate each others weaknesses. Couple that with Roy Thomas' continuity porn story and you have this issue which was the inspiration for the plot of this arc.
Profile Image for Jesse.
1,281 reviews11 followers
February 7, 2019
It was alright. The POV from Bucky's replacement was good. The art was predictably fantastic, from Francesco Francavilla. I don't have too much else to say. It will not be going where I thought it would in my binding.
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August 25, 2023
fuck off i dont care
kinda dumb kinda confusing at times mostly just i dont care abt fred davis at all
Profile Image for Jennifer.
264 reviews1 follower
September 22, 2019
This was a slow read. I think the graphic novel’s focus on the men that added and helped maintain Captain America’s and Bucky’s legacies is an interesting and worthy angle. However, the graphic novel fell flat in a lot of respects from the artwork to the storyline itself. The whole narrative reads as filler which is unfortunate because that’s not the feeling a reader wants for the men that stepped into these roles.
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2,891 reviews223 followers
May 8, 2015
2 - 2.5 stars

So, after Bucky and Cap go MIA during WWII, the U. S. government got Fred Davis and William Naslund to wear the costumes of Bucky and Captain America. They fought in their name to keep up morale.

James Barnes and Steve Rogers, as themselves, did not matter. Only what they represented to the public and the government. There is plenty of precedent in the comics world of people just taking on other superhero personas and carrying on their legacy without regard for the individual.

When Naslund "dies," they have already passed on the uniform to someone new before the body is even cold.


"So just a few years after saving the world, Bill and I went from being everybody's heroes to being nothing. Bill sacrificed his life and it was like it never even happened. Because the world never knew about us. And they didn't want to. It was the part of my life I was most proud of and I just had to pretend like it was someone else."



At the end, Fred is still struggling with all the sacrifices he made - no family, no legacy to leave behind - when Steve and the others show him publicly how much he and Bill contributed by erecting a monument to them both for their service to their country as Captain America and Bucky.

Adam II and his villainous androids are tidily defeated (not a brilliant villain) , but it worked for the storyline and this was more about Fred and Bill's journey anyhow.


Randomly, there is mention of SHIELD being taken over and inventoried by Norman Osborn???
This entire review has been hidden because of spoilers.
Profile Image for Alan.
2,050 reviews16 followers
October 13, 2013
Marvel's insistence on trade collecting every issue hits another low point here. The story line is only three issues long, so a low price point TPB would have been fine. Instead, under the guise of helping readers they include a reprint of an issue from another series to "assist" in explaining the villain's history and motivation.

To top it off the story is Brubaker (plotted in my view) and written by Jame Asmus. Not a great combination here.
Profile Image for Writerlibrarian.
1,562 reviews4 followers
August 11, 2012
A look back to the time when Captain America was on iced and others took the mantle. This is a present day adventure with lots of flashbacks with one pair of the Captain America and Bucky replacements. Not of lot of new information. This is a look into ordinary men doing extraordinary work. Not my favourite for far as Captain America graphic novels go.
Profile Image for Kit.
800 reviews46 followers
November 17, 2015
Captain America vs a bunch of robots and Adam II. Kinda hard to care reading this one. What was entertaining was the story of what happens when two normal guys are picked to carry on Cap and Bucky's legacy for morale during the war effort, but the rest of the book was mostly disjointed and confusing.
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651 reviews1 follower
June 6, 2016
I never knew there was another Cap and Bucky after Steve Rogers and James Barnes 'sacrificed' there lives. When you think about how the loss of Cap and Bucky would have demoralized the troops it makes sense that they would pass on the monikers. William Nasland and Fred Davis' story was equally as heart breaking and compelling.
Profile Image for Brent.
2,251 reviews195 followers
August 27, 2025
Great art by Francavilla, scripting by Asmus. Good original Human Torch stuff, here. I really like that this addition includes the earlier Invaders story to which this refers, by Roy Thomas and Frank Robbins with Frank Springer inks, reprinted from What If #4. Reread, late August 2025, thanks to Fulton County Public Library.
Recommended.
Profile Image for PJ Ebbrell.
748 reviews
February 3, 2013
Some good and some bad. Felt too much that this retcon for future issues coming issues; but I liked the idea of other people taking over the Captain America mantle and struggling.

Back up feature that linked the whole story into Marvel's past and I have changed my opinion of Frank Robbins as well.
Profile Image for Shannon Appelcline.
Author 30 books167 followers
March 28, 2013
The plot has some pretty neat elements, with its focus on past Captain Americas and Buckys. Unfortunately the script is fairly dull with lots of fights and double-crossing, none of which is particularly exciting.
Profile Image for Scott.
638 reviews10 followers
January 8, 2014
This story had potential featuring Naslund and Davis as Cap and Bucky. However it quickly became a huge mess. The script fell apart, the dialog was, simply put, wrong for Cap. The art work that worked so well in the first collection just became as messy as the story here as well.
Profile Image for Hanka.
268 reviews49 followers
May 23, 2014
no škoda. Na jednu stranu chápem, čo sa Marvel týmto snažil dosiahnuť, na druhú stranu hovorím, že niekedy príbehy jednoducho nefungujú. Toto bol presne ten prípad, keď snaha zabŕdnuť do komiksovej histórie nevyjde a vzniknú štyri zošity, ktoré moderného čitateľa neoslovia.
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96 reviews13 followers
July 14, 2022
This was a very confusing read... Not well organized at all, it begins with random characters we know nothing about and the story is extremely dull and uninteresting, the art didn't speak to me either.
Profile Image for John Yelverton.
4,438 reviews38 followers
May 30, 2012
Bad artwork with an even worse story that is just barely better than the previous book in this book series.
Profile Image for Jackie.
82 reviews43 followers
July 13, 2012
Captain America doesn't say "holler".
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