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Glass Thorns #3
Thornlost
Melanie Rawn returns to her rich high fantasy world in Thornlost, the sequel to Touchstone and Elsewhens.
Cayden is part Elf, part Fae, part human Wizard—and all rebel. His aristocratic mother would have him follow his father to the Royal Court, to make a high-society living off the scraps of kings. But Cade lives and breathes for the theater, and he's good, very good. He's a tregetour—a wizard who is both playwright and magicwielder. It is Cade's power that creates the magic, but a tregetour is useless without a glisker—an elf who can spin out the magic onto the stage, to enchant the audience. And Cade's glisker, Mieka, is something special too. So is their fettler, Rafe, who controls the magic and keeps them and the audience safe. And their masker, Jeska, who speaks all the lines, is every young girl's dream.
They are reaching for the highest reaches of society and power, but not the way Cade's mother thinks they should. They'll change their world, or die trying.
Cayden is part Elf, part Fae, part human Wizard—and all rebel. His aristocratic mother would have him follow his father to the Royal Court, to make a high-society living off the scraps of kings. But Cade lives and breathes for the theater, and he's good, very good. He's a tregetour—a wizard who is both playwright and magicwielder. It is Cade's power that creates the magic, but a tregetour is useless without a glisker—an elf who can spin out the magic onto the stage, to enchant the audience. And Cade's glisker, Mieka, is something special too. So is their fettler, Rafe, who controls the magic and keeps them and the audience safe. And their masker, Jeska, who speaks all the lines, is every young girl's dream.
They are reaching for the highest reaches of society and power, but not the way Cade's mother thinks they should. They'll change their world, or die trying.
528 pages, Mass Market Paperback
First published April 29, 2014
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About the author
Melanie Rawn
78 books1,240 followersMelanie Rawn received a BA in history from Scripps College and worked as a teacher and editor before becoming a writer.
She has been nominated for a Locus award on three separate occasions: in 1989 for Dragon Prince (in the first novel category), in 1994 for Skybowl (in the fantasy novel category), and again in 1995 for Ruins of Ambrai (in the fantasy novel category).
She has been nominated for a Locus award on three separate occasions: in 1989 for Dragon Prince (in the first novel category), in 1994 for Skybowl (in the fantasy novel category), and again in 1995 for Ruins of Ambrai (in the fantasy novel category).
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July 30, 2014
Exactly the same as the other two. I was hoping for SOMETHING new, but nope… There are even entire pages copied word for word from the second book. We understand that they are a theatre troupe, we understand he has visions of the future, yada yada. Once again, the only plot progression happens in the last 30 pages of the book, and are tacked on half-finished so that you will purchase the next book to find out what happens. This book was a serious disappointment.
February 15, 2017
Why did nothing happen in this book?
The only things of note, all of which could easily have gone in the second book and made it more interesting were meeting Megs and the subplot (although it was so minor I hesitate to call it that) about the rogue fettler; the hints at, for lack of a better word, racism held by the Archduke, Touchstone's nemesis; and gaining the knowledge about what Caitiffer actually means. (All we've had before is hints at something deep, dark, and evil.) Oh, and Mieka hits his wife when she lies to him about . And Cade dithers about divulging his Elsewhens and whether or not Mieka will finally listen to him about his wife. (You'd think Mieka would jave learned by now, but no...).
Nothing else happens. Cade and Mieka don't even have a big falling-out. Only a small one, and it's quickly resolved.
What is the point of this book and when is this so-called trilogy going to end? When are all of the loose ends (and believe me, there are lots) going to get tied up?
Despite that rant I gave this book 3 stars because I enjoyed reading it. You won't know until the end that nothing happens, because all the way through the book it seems that things will happen.
The only things of note, all of which could easily have gone in the second book and made it more interesting were meeting Megs and the subplot (although it was so minor I hesitate to call it that) about the rogue fettler; the hints at, for lack of a better word, racism held by the Archduke, Touchstone's nemesis; and gaining the knowledge about what Caitiffer actually means. (All we've had before is hints at something deep, dark, and evil.) Oh, and Mieka hits his wife when she lies to him about . And Cade dithers about divulging his Elsewhens and whether or not Mieka will finally listen to him about his wife. (You'd think Mieka would jave learned by now, but no...).
Nothing else happens. Cade and Mieka don't even have a big falling-out. Only a small one, and it's quickly resolved.
What is the point of this book and when is this so-called trilogy going to end? When are all of the loose ends (and believe me, there are lots) going to get tied up?
Despite that rant I gave this book 3 stars because I enjoyed reading it. You won't know until the end that nothing happens, because all the way through the book it seems that things will happen.
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June 13, 2014Mon avis en Français
My English review
Firstly I must say that I did not know anything about the series and I usually avoid reading the last volumes of a fantasy series without knowing the story, but here I am! It is also the reason why I will not this time rate the novel since I was a little lost. I also admit that I was a bit scared when I saw the cover, because I immediately thought of battles and others things like that, but I was very surprised that this was not the case at all.
We discover in the novel an uncommon theater group as they present some unusual performances! We then follow Cade and his followers during their adventures. And while everyone has a special gift, the first character has the ability to foresee the future from time to time and so change it when necessary. But another person is very important to the story, and it is none other than Mieka the heart of the company who helps to stage each performance.
I admit that I was curious about the relationship between Cade and Mieka. The two seem very close and at the same time something always gets them away. They can easily switch from love to hate and we do not really understand why. But it was really interesting to see how they evolved together. The story is very well written and I enjoyed the pen of Melanie Rawn. But I think I would have been a little better if I had known the beginning of the story. It took me a while to understand that initially who the men and the women were and it is true that I needed more information to really understand the whole story. However, I enjoyed discovering each character and to understand the relationships that might exist between them. I do not suggest you to start with this novel, but if you want a slightly different fantasy, I recommend you the series. If I have the opportunity one day, I’ll try the other novels in the series to understand everything.
My English review
Firstly I must say that I did not know anything about the series and I usually avoid reading the last volumes of a fantasy series without knowing the story, but here I am! It is also the reason why I will not this time rate the novel since I was a little lost. I also admit that I was a bit scared when I saw the cover, because I immediately thought of battles and others things like that, but I was very surprised that this was not the case at all.
We discover in the novel an uncommon theater group as they present some unusual performances! We then follow Cade and his followers during their adventures. And while everyone has a special gift, the first character has the ability to foresee the future from time to time and so change it when necessary. But another person is very important to the story, and it is none other than Mieka the heart of the company who helps to stage each performance.
I admit that I was curious about the relationship between Cade and Mieka. The two seem very close and at the same time something always gets them away. They can easily switch from love to hate and we do not really understand why. But it was really interesting to see how they evolved together. The story is very well written and I enjoyed the pen of Melanie Rawn. But I think I would have been a little better if I had known the beginning of the story. It took me a while to understand that initially who the men and the women were and it is true that I needed more information to really understand the whole story. However, I enjoyed discovering each character and to understand the relationships that might exist between them. I do not suggest you to start with this novel, but if you want a slightly different fantasy, I recommend you the series. If I have the opportunity one day, I’ll try the other novels in the series to understand everything.
January 8, 2016
Melanie Rawn once again brings to us a world where magic and theater go hand in hand in Thornlost, book three of the Glass Thorn series. We return to the Kingdom of Albeyn, where Touchstone, our cleaver troupe of magic-wielding performers, is quickly rising to fame and prominence. Their roles are simple; Cade, leader and Tregetour, fills the glass withies with magic used in their plays. Jeska, the Masquer, acts out the roles of the various characters. Rafe, their Fettler, controls the force and flow of the active magic while Mieka, their delightfully mad Glisker, wields the withies and brings the play to life. From rough beginnings, they've come to be one of the most sought-after troupes in the kingdom. But below the surface, things aren't as peaceful as they appear. Cade, plagued by Elsewhens, visions of possible futures that are within his power to control, continues to see Mieka's rapid descent into darkness, either at the hands of his scheming wife or at his own. No matter what Cade does, it seems there is no way to avoid it, and now he is seeing something else, as stirring in the shadows as a long-forgotten race wakes from sleep, and the legendary Crown and Carkonet are at the center of it all. Will Cade be able to master his visions and save his friends? Found out in this intriguing tale of magic and mayhem. I was actually very surprised at how much this book drew me in. I had read the first two and, while I didn't think they were terrible, I also didn't think they were anything, well, magic. Thornlost, however, captured my attention immediately and held onto it right to the end, refusing to let go. I will be looking forward to reading the next installment.
May 3, 2014
The third installment of the Glass Thorns series is just as captivating and interesting as the first two. The characters live and breathe and jump from the pages, ready to mingle in our world (although theirs sounds much more fun to inhabit!) Mieka and Cade's relationship is just as complicated as ever; but what frontmen's hasn't been? Look at Robert Plant and Jimmy Page; Steven Tyler and Joe Perry; Mick Jagger and Keith Richards. The parallels between the great rock artists of our world and the tregetours and fettlers and gliskers and the [whatever the 4th one is] of Albeyn's make the story seem realistic even though it's high fantasy. The court intrigue and the mystery surrounding what the Archduke wants and how Mieka's wife fits into it make a you keep turning the pages.
My only complaint with this book (and it's held through the series as a whole) is that it feels like this book just ended abruptly. I feel like the first two books could have been combined to be one long book without losing anything, and it seems like this one and its upcoming continuation are headed down that path as well. I know the mystery will be wrapped up somehow (providing that Melanie finishes this series...), but right now we still aren't even sure what it is. That's a bit touched for the third book in the series, in my opinion. But I love the story overall, and Melanie is one of my favorite authors of all time, so 4 stars!
My only complaint with this book (and it's held through the series as a whole) is that it feels like this book just ended abruptly. I feel like the first two books could have been combined to be one long book without losing anything, and it seems like this one and its upcoming continuation are headed down that path as well. I know the mystery will be wrapped up somehow (providing that Melanie finishes this series...), but right now we still aren't even sure what it is. That's a bit touched for the third book in the series, in my opinion. But I love the story overall, and Melanie is one of my favorite authors of all time, so 4 stars!
May 1, 2014
Loved this. It's this kind of ending that makes me remember only to read completed series, though. I haven't yet read a Melanie Rawn book I haven't loved.
November 13, 2019
If you liked the previous two books in the series, you will probably like this one, since the complex fantasy world the series creates continues to be explored in detail. Unfortunately, since I found Elsewhere a little slow paced, the way that this book essentially repeats the structure and events of the second book (with only very minor deviations until the final quarter of the book) frustrated me. Rawn uses previews of the future to tease future plot points, which sadly often fail to materialise, and the somewhat unsympathetic main characters continue to focus on drinking, drugs, sex and theatre (in that order) without any obvious growth. This book and the previous in the series could easily have been a single book, which would have benefited from faster pacing and less pointless repetition of small details.
August 1, 2022
lots to say about this book.
I DIG IT SO HARD
again, just like elsewhens: why do i love it so much? it’s a relatively soft magic system, there’s very little rising action or central conflict, like literally there’s very little BIG BAD, but i LOVE IT.
this book deals with addiction, marital abuse, misogyny, sexism, relational conflicts, infertility, and miscarriage. and it’s all in a fantasy setting. it talks about choices a whole lot––if you knew someone’s potential future, would you try and change it? what if you knew they were going to make a terrible mistake, but that they’d want to make that choice for themself? cayden fights with affecting other people’s lives and eventually becomes cold.
golly i love it so much. it’s immersive. i feel like i understand the characters pretty well and they’re all complicated. i like the low stakes. more of the same. 10/10.
I DIG IT SO HARD
again, just like elsewhens: why do i love it so much? it’s a relatively soft magic system, there’s very little rising action or central conflict, like literally there’s very little BIG BAD, but i LOVE IT.
this book deals with addiction, marital abuse, misogyny, sexism, relational conflicts, infertility, and miscarriage. and it’s all in a fantasy setting. it talks about choices a whole lot––if you knew someone’s potential future, would you try and change it? what if you knew they were going to make a terrible mistake, but that they’d want to make that choice for themself? cayden fights with affecting other people’s lives and eventually becomes cold.
golly i love it so much. it’s immersive. i feel like i understand the characters pretty well and they’re all complicated. i like the low stakes. more of the same. 10/10.
November 24, 2018
There is something about these books that, while there is never anything horrendously thrilling or suspenseful, keeps me flipping the pages. I think some of it is most likely the characters. I do love the interactions between Cade and Meika. It always seems like there is more to read between the lines then in the lines themselves. In this installment, the ending was my favorite. It could mean all kinds of things. I guess I'll have to read the next book to find out!
April 3, 2019
Can't give this more than two stars because it is little more than a repeat of the first two books. Given the lack of plot movement, all of the angst and introspection could easily have been condensed into two books.
Anyone hoping for a resolution in book four is going to be disappointed - apparently there's a book five, which I doubt I'll bother reading.
Anyone hoping for a resolution in book four is going to be disappointed - apparently there's a book five, which I doubt I'll bother reading.
September 11, 2017
I found this one a bit slow. It is one of those middle of the series books where not a lot happens. Hopefully the next one will pick it up a bit.
March 26, 2018
Touchstone continues to innovate and the magic continues to flow.
June 8, 2018
The plots thicken
The pace improved in this volume. Dawn reveals tidbits and pulls us through a story with surprising turns. Here and there.
The pace improved in this volume. Dawn reveals tidbits and pulls us through a story with surprising turns. Here and there.
October 11, 2014
Thornlost by Melanie Rawn
Touchstone was the first book in this thought provoking series, Elsewhens is the second. I was under the erroneous assumption that this was a trilogy. Unless Ms. Rawn wants to leave us all hang as David Weber did with there will be at least another book. This is a behind the scenes look at theatrical production powered not by animation but magic. Touchstone, a group of four, has made a name for themselves as well as acquiring some serious enemies.
Precognition would be another description for one of Cayden Silversun's erratic magical abilities. The nature of this ability escapes both Cayden and often the reader. Mieka, his volatile elf like sidekick curbs some of his normal drug enhanced frivolity in this book. The use of thorn is akin to the abuse of a variety of drugs. Thorn seems to be more tailored for individuals and their genealogy which does not negate the fact that it appears to be an addiction.
Political intrigue continues in this book. Vampirism is introduced. Women's rights continue to be a major subtheme of the book. Black Lightning's performances include targeted magic that appears to promote racial discrimination off a type that is similar to the Hitler racial purity concepts. In this case racial isn't based on color but on whether goblin, elf, human, wizard, troll or giant rules your gemological background.
It seems that although Cayden postulates that theater can change society, he is shocked to discover it happening. The interpersonal relationships between a rather large cast of characters fuels a major chunk of the prose.
The book is more thought provoking than action prone.
I recommend the book.
Web Site: http://www.melanierawn.com/
Touchstone was the first book in this thought provoking series, Elsewhens is the second. I was under the erroneous assumption that this was a trilogy. Unless Ms. Rawn wants to leave us all hang as David Weber did with there will be at least another book. This is a behind the scenes look at theatrical production powered not by animation but magic. Touchstone, a group of four, has made a name for themselves as well as acquiring some serious enemies.
Precognition would be another description for one of Cayden Silversun's erratic magical abilities. The nature of this ability escapes both Cayden and often the reader. Mieka, his volatile elf like sidekick curbs some of his normal drug enhanced frivolity in this book. The use of thorn is akin to the abuse of a variety of drugs. Thorn seems to be more tailored for individuals and their genealogy which does not negate the fact that it appears to be an addiction.
Political intrigue continues in this book. Vampirism is introduced. Women's rights continue to be a major subtheme of the book. Black Lightning's performances include targeted magic that appears to promote racial discrimination off a type that is similar to the Hitler racial purity concepts. In this case racial isn't based on color but on whether goblin, elf, human, wizard, troll or giant rules your gemological background.
It seems that although Cayden postulates that theater can change society, he is shocked to discover it happening. The interpersonal relationships between a rather large cast of characters fuels a major chunk of the prose.
The book is more thought provoking than action prone.
I recommend the book.
Web Site: http://www.melanierawn.com/
June 14, 2014
I am trying VERY hard not to let my irritation at the author over an unrelated (unfinished) book series affect my review, but I can't.
Thornlost is book three in the Glass Thorns series. This "trilogy" was only supposed to have three books and has been extended (at writing) to five. Thornlost continues the story of Cayden, Mieka and Touchstone, their theatre group. It's an interesting world, but the characters are decidedly one dimensional. I was hoping that by the third book, I would have a better idea of WHY I'm not supposed to like certain characters and have sympathy for others. I would like to have some semblance of where the story is going. As it is written, I am following a group around AGAIN through their theater performances (same plays, same places) and getting unconnected series of Cayden likes Mieka. Mieka and Cayden have a fight. They are friends again. Cayden worries about his Elsewhens. In any case, I'm not entirely sure that this entire novel moved forward the story one bit. (We met Megs, who I delighted in as a plot twist until the reveal and then I rolled my eyes.)
In addition to the very jumpy storyline, I'm terrified of this author NOT finishing the series. As a result, I haven't let myself get caught up in the lives of the characters. There is reservation there because of the Exiles "Trilogy" (been waiting on book 3 for over 15 years). Rawn used to be one of my favorite authors. I'll eventually get around to reading book four (if and when it comes out), but in the meantime, I'm still not purchasing anything she's written.
Thornlost is book three in the Glass Thorns series. This "trilogy" was only supposed to have three books and has been extended (at writing) to five. Thornlost continues the story of Cayden, Mieka and Touchstone, their theatre group. It's an interesting world, but the characters are decidedly one dimensional. I was hoping that by the third book, I would have a better idea of WHY I'm not supposed to like certain characters and have sympathy for others. I would like to have some semblance of where the story is going. As it is written, I am following a group around AGAIN through their theater performances (same plays, same places) and getting unconnected series of Cayden likes Mieka. Mieka and Cayden have a fight. They are friends again. Cayden worries about his Elsewhens. In any case, I'm not entirely sure that this entire novel moved forward the story one bit. (We met Megs, who I delighted in as a plot twist until the reveal and then I rolled my eyes.)
In addition to the very jumpy storyline, I'm terrified of this author NOT finishing the series. As a result, I haven't let myself get caught up in the lives of the characters. There is reservation there because of the Exiles "Trilogy" (been waiting on book 3 for over 15 years). Rawn used to be one of my favorite authors. I'll eventually get around to reading book four (if and when it comes out), but in the meantime, I'm still not purchasing anything she's written.
November 15, 2014
Apparently, just like James S.A. Corey's Expanse novels, I mistakenly believed this to be a trilogy. After the end of "Thornlost", though, we still have as many unanswered questions as we did at the end of "Elsewhens". Sooo...spoilers ahead!
****spoiler warning****
"Touchstone" was replete with homoerotic tension. I don't say this in a bad way, but rather as a lead-in to my theory, which is that Cayden and Mieke wind up together. Cade's vision of his 45th Naming Day, Mieke's daughter coming in to the house where he and Cade live, etc. all point at this as a distinct probability. While it's cool that Rawn is placing this plot with her main characters, it's old hat for her to feature same-sex couples in her work (particularly the Exiles books).
Her writing with this series continues to improve. I'm more invested now than I have been with either of the two previous books, and was quite surprised to realize that there will be more to come. The mystery of the Rights, the move to include women in Guild and Theater work, and the developing plot of Why does the Archduke want Cade all have yet to even pose half-baked answers and is seriously piquing my interest.
Four stars this time, Ms. Rawn. Keep it up, I'm ready for book 4.
****spoiler warning****
"Touchstone" was replete with homoerotic tension. I don't say this in a bad way, but rather as a lead-in to my theory, which is that Cayden and Mieke wind up together. Cade's vision of his 45th Naming Day, Mieke's daughter coming in to the house where he and Cade live, etc. all point at this as a distinct probability. While it's cool that Rawn is placing this plot with her main characters, it's old hat for her to feature same-sex couples in her work (particularly the Exiles books).
Her writing with this series continues to improve. I'm more invested now than I have been with either of the two previous books, and was quite surprised to realize that there will be more to come. The mystery of the Rights, the move to include women in Guild and Theater work, and the developing plot of Why does the Archduke want Cade all have yet to even pose half-baked answers and is seriously piquing my interest.
Four stars this time, Ms. Rawn. Keep it up, I'm ready for book 4.
May 16, 2016
they tour the country. There are pranks. Cade slowly comes to realize how he can control his future seeing. There are miniscule advancements to the overarching plot. If I were to say this book had as much plot as meringue has substance that would be far too much credit. And yet, it's completely enjoyable. A slice of life kind of book. There is some kind of evil lurking in the background and I'm sure at some point there will be a confrontation, but mostly it's just following our four characters through their lives. They talk about the plays, and art. They get married, they have arguments amongst themselves. They get political influence by being awesome, certainly not because they want it (these are the good guys see, good guys don't want political influence with the king).
I read the first two books of this series two years ago, enjoyed them and thought, "oh I should get the next ones when they come out" and then completely and totally forgot about it. It's non stressful, light fantasy reading.
I read the first two books of this series two years ago, enjoyed them and thought, "oh I should get the next ones when they come out" and then completely and totally forgot about it. It's non stressful, light fantasy reading.
May 7, 2020
Cayden is part Elf, part Fae, part human Wizard - and all rebel. His aristocratic mother would have him follow his father to the Royal Court, to make a high-society living off the scraps of kings. But Cade lives and breathes for the theater, and he's good, very good. He's a tregetour, a wizard who is both playwright and magicwielder. It is Cade's power that creates the magic, but a tregetour is useless without a glisker, an elf who can spin out the magic onto the stage, to enchant the audience. And Cade's glisker, Mieka, is something special too. So is their fettler, Rafe, who controls the magic and keeps them and the audience safe. And their masker, Jeska, who speaks all the lines, is every young girl's dream. They are reaching for the highest reaches of society and power, but not the way Cade's mother thinks they should. They'll change their world, or die trying.
July 5, 2014
The slowly expanding world of the acting troupe Touchstone is now starting to include larger events and machinations. I've been pleasantly surprised at how well it's stayed focused on the day to day workings of a small group on tour; here, it keeps the fantastic twists of life on the road, with drugs, women, and rivalry-friendships with others in the life constantly complicating life.
But, Rawn manages to show hints of larger events that Touchstone will be involved in, and the themes that will fuel the conflict; in this book, it seems much more visible, as the plots of the powerful that want to use dramaturges to shape public opinion are hinted at, and Cade becomes more adept at weaving and understanding his unusual gift of prophecy.
But, Rawn manages to show hints of larger events that Touchstone will be involved in, and the themes that will fuel the conflict; in this book, it seems much more visible, as the plots of the powerful that want to use dramaturges to shape public opinion are hinted at, and Cade becomes more adept at weaving and understanding his unusual gift of prophecy.
September 22, 2014
For whatever reason I was never able to get into a flow with this book. the other two in this series were marvelous. This one was a hard go. Stop start no flow. the writing is still excellent. I started to get into it in the last 20 or so pages when the book suddenly ended. I had thought the Glass Thorns series was to be a trilogy now it is more open ended. I hope the next installment works better.
July 10, 2015
Again, I'm not sure much happened in this book, but the detail and the almost slow motion story telling is actually making me savour the author's writing. I've been guilty of skim reading books when they've been too slow, but the almost hypnotic quality of the writing makes you slow down and go back and make sure you've read properly. Lots of questions that I'm waiting for answers to, particularly about Mieka's wife and mother in law!
August 14, 2014
I'm giving it 4 stars because I like the premise and the world. The plot is dragging a bit. It was better than book 2 which felt like a filler. But I want things to progress a little faster. There are big things hinted at that need to unfold.
All the same I am looking forward to the next book!
All the same I am looking forward to the next book!
July 31, 2014
Suffered from typical middle child syndrome. As the middle book of the series not much happened. Good thing Rawn can write well or it would have been really boring.
August 17, 2014
Good book but the plot is definitely being slowrolled
November 5, 2014
Oh I am loving this series!
Brilliant writing, bringing to life vibrant characters!
Lots of unanswered questions for the next book!!
Bring it on!
Brilliant writing, bringing to life vibrant characters!
Lots of unanswered questions for the next book!!
Bring it on!
October 23, 2014
Another chapter in the tale of Touchstone, the magical theatre company. Great stuff. Looking forward to the next one.....
May 22, 2015
The only drawback to this book is that it's a continued story"," and now I have to wait for the next installment!
June 7, 2021
5 star - Perfect
4 star - i would recommend
3 star - good
2 star - struggled to complete
1 star - could not finish
4 star - i would recommend
3 star - good
2 star - struggled to complete
1 star - could not finish
September 15, 2016
Ms. Rawn is fabulous, as usual.
September 22, 2016
I love Melanie Rawn's rich fantasy worlds.
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