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Fantastic Four (1961) #52-60
Fantastic Four: Doomsday
Фантастическая Четверка отправляется в загадочное африканское королевство Ваканда по приглашению Черной Пантеры. Но кто этот таинственный сверхчеловек? Враг или друг? Кроме того, вас ждет встреча с Нелюдями и Доктором Думом. Король Латверии захватывает в плен Серебряного Серфера и получает необыкновенную силу. Теперь только Фантастическая Четверка может остановить его, но удастся ли им справиться со злодеем, который обладает космической энергией?
196 pages, Hardcover
First published January 1, 1967
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Stan Lee
7,561 books2,350 followersStan Lee (born Stanley Martin Lieber) was an American writer, editor, creator of comic book superheroes, and the former president and chairman of Marvel Comics.
With several artist co-creators, most notably Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko, he co-created Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, Thor as a superhero, the X-Men, Iron Man, the Hulk, Daredevil, the Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Ant-Man and the Wasp, Scarlet Witch, The Inhumans, and many other characters, introducing complex, naturalistic characters and a thoroughly shared universe into superhero comic books. He subsequently led the expansion of Marvel Comics from a small division of a publishing house to a large multimedia corporation.
With several artist co-creators, most notably Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko, he co-created Spider-Man, the Fantastic Four, Thor as a superhero, the X-Men, Iron Man, the Hulk, Daredevil, the Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Ant-Man and the Wasp, Scarlet Witch, The Inhumans, and many other characters, introducing complex, naturalistic characters and a thoroughly shared universe into superhero comic books. He subsequently led the expansion of Marvel Comics from a small division of a publishing house to a large multimedia corporation.
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January 8, 2018
Bueno, al fin terminé este tomo, entre las fiestas y las visitas y lo largo se hizo un poco complicado.
Mientras más leo cosas de Stan Lee más me acostumbro a su forma de escribir y más lo disfruto, por más que se extienda con frases innecesarias, después de un tiempo hasta resulta divertido como se enrieda para decir algo muy simple (como detalle, al final de esta edición hay un prologo para un tomo que contiene estos números escrito por Stan Lee y el dice lo mismo, al punto que basó la forma enroscada de decir las cosas de Reed Richards en su propia personalidad).
Este tomo continúa directamente el de "La llegada de Galactus" y tiene los mismos personajes secundarios (los Inhumanos, Wyatt WIngfoot, Silver Surfer, etc.), a la vez que introduce a Pantera Negra. Muy entretenido de leer y con el arte de Kirby que como siempre es genial. No es para todos, supongo, pero a mi me encantó.
Mientras más leo cosas de Stan Lee más me acostumbro a su forma de escribir y más lo disfruto, por más que se extienda con frases innecesarias, después de un tiempo hasta resulta divertido como se enrieda para decir algo muy simple (como detalle, al final de esta edición hay un prologo para un tomo que contiene estos números escrito por Stan Lee y el dice lo mismo, al punto que basó la forma enroscada de decir las cosas de Reed Richards en su propia personalidad).
Este tomo continúa directamente el de "La llegada de Galactus" y tiene los mismos personajes secundarios (los Inhumanos, Wyatt WIngfoot, Silver Surfer, etc.), a la vez que introduce a Pantera Negra. Muy entretenido de leer y con el arte de Kirby que como siempre es genial. No es para todos, supongo, pero a mi me encantó.
April 11, 2016
If there’s one art form America’s developed better than any other nation it’s self-mythologising. The Greeks gave it a pretty good go with the likes of Homer but few nations have managed it on such an industrial scale. From carnival sideshows to Madison Avenue America can burnish anything with a golden tinge; any product, any actor, any sports star, hell they can even mythologise their dreams into an ideology. Whether the American Dream’s a healthy mythology’s another question entirely.
All of which leads back to Stan Lee. I grew up on Doctor Who and marvel, the simplicity of Terrance Dicks and the loquacity of Lee. I know it’s de rigeur to grant Kirby and Ditko more credit than they were given at the time (and rightly so) but for all the weird angularity of Ditko or the spectacle and energy of Kirby it was Lee’s words grabbed me. He was working with artistic genii, but dammit he sold their work. He was the salesman who got the punters rolling up and handing their nickels and dimes over. He sold each issue with apparent absolute, unbreakable self-belief, one arm around the shoulder and a fast tongue telling an exciting story you’d never see bettered. And he’d be sending you to the dictionary with his loquacity and fondness for grandiloquent language. The words were as much a thrill as the art for me, despite his cheap fondness for exclamation marks that surely caused a worldwide shortage of them in other literature. It was essentially a lesson that the lessons you were being taught about how to write were wrong; screw simplicity and using the shortest possible words, make the language exciting. And if the language matches the art, baby you’ve hit gold.
Doomsday reminded me of all that. Now I’m older I can see all the holes in the storytelling, the penalty of making things up as you go along (including the conclusion to the Doctor Doom story that forms the bulk of the arc basically happening off-screen). You probably didn’t need all those words, the way the industry’s developed has proved that, but Lee could take all those words and thrill your young soul to the core. Kirby’s art could sell the story by itself, but with Lee’s words… well, what you’ve got is a beautifully wrapped present. What’s inside isn’t necessarily so great, with well-intentioned racial politics bordering on the patronising, casual sexism towards Susan and the aforementioned wonky narrative, but it’s a fine reminder of what made Lee and Kirby a dream team as well as the flaws the creative hothouse conditions imposed. Like a lot of mythology though the style is unimpeachable, the substance less so.
All of which leads back to Stan Lee. I grew up on Doctor Who and marvel, the simplicity of Terrance Dicks and the loquacity of Lee. I know it’s de rigeur to grant Kirby and Ditko more credit than they were given at the time (and rightly so) but for all the weird angularity of Ditko or the spectacle and energy of Kirby it was Lee’s words grabbed me. He was working with artistic genii, but dammit he sold their work. He was the salesman who got the punters rolling up and handing their nickels and dimes over. He sold each issue with apparent absolute, unbreakable self-belief, one arm around the shoulder and a fast tongue telling an exciting story you’d never see bettered. And he’d be sending you to the dictionary with his loquacity and fondness for grandiloquent language. The words were as much a thrill as the art for me, despite his cheap fondness for exclamation marks that surely caused a worldwide shortage of them in other literature. It was essentially a lesson that the lessons you were being taught about how to write were wrong; screw simplicity and using the shortest possible words, make the language exciting. And if the language matches the art, baby you’ve hit gold.
Doomsday reminded me of all that. Now I’m older I can see all the holes in the storytelling, the penalty of making things up as you go along (including the conclusion to the Doctor Doom story that forms the bulk of the arc basically happening off-screen). You probably didn’t need all those words, the way the industry’s developed has proved that, but Lee could take all those words and thrill your young soul to the core. Kirby’s art could sell the story by itself, but with Lee’s words… well, what you’ve got is a beautifully wrapped present. What’s inside isn’t necessarily so great, with well-intentioned racial politics bordering on the patronising, casual sexism towards Susan and the aforementioned wonky narrative, but it’s a fine reminder of what made Lee and Kirby a dream team as well as the flaws the creative hothouse conditions imposed. Like a lot of mythology though the style is unimpeachable, the substance less so.
December 31, 2023
Από τις καλύτερες περιπέτειες των Fantastic Four. Περιλαμβάνεται και η πρώτη εμφάνιση του Back Panther. Εξαιρετικό σε σύλληψη και εκτέλεση.
May 23, 2020
Review 5/135 - Quarteto Fantástico: O Dia do Juízo Final
Essa graphic novel é uma continuação direta da história do vol. 4 da coleção. Continuando, o que foi visto, temos uma sequência de histórias divertidas, mas sem o mesmo nível de profundidade que as do volume passado (ver review anterior do vol.4 da coleção).
Nas 9 edições temos alguns pontos altos como a apresentação do personagem Pantera Negra, o primeiro super-herói negro e uma narrativa ameaçadora para o Quarteto, com Doutor Destino como vilão principal.
Como disse anteriormente, as histórias se mantém em um plano de entretenimento muito mais do que de profundidade, porém trazem situações realmente bem construídas. Apesar de certo incômodo com o objetivo do principal vilão do Quarteto Fantástico, por funcionar muito como um McGuiver (a conquista mundial sem um motivo para isso), é interessante ver este alcançar seus objetivos, além de ver a equipe derrotada. A solução apresentada por Stan Lee para a derrota de Doutor Destino só foi perceptível na última página da revista, e foi engenhosamente surpreendente e simples na minha opinião.
Porém, a revista apresenta pontos negativos também, todos relacionados a certos clichês das narrativas de herói: o vilão, ao alcançar seus objetivos parece se tornar tolo a ponto cometer diversos erros que não têm nada a ver com a sua personalidade. Esses tipos de situações são jogados na história para que os heróis tenham chance de se equiparar a um vilão muito poderoso, e acaba danificando a história.
Porém, visto que esse tipo de elemento no passado era algo recorrente, não atrapalhou tanto os pontos positivos da leitura. Talvez não seja uma leitura que agrade a todos, mas permitiu que me divertisse enquanto lia.
Essa graphic novel é uma continuação direta da história do vol. 4 da coleção. Continuando, o que foi visto, temos uma sequência de histórias divertidas, mas sem o mesmo nível de profundidade que as do volume passado (ver review anterior do vol.4 da coleção).
Nas 9 edições temos alguns pontos altos como a apresentação do personagem Pantera Negra, o primeiro super-herói negro e uma narrativa ameaçadora para o Quarteto, com Doutor Destino como vilão principal.
Como disse anteriormente, as histórias se mantém em um plano de entretenimento muito mais do que de profundidade, porém trazem situações realmente bem construídas. Apesar de certo incômodo com o objetivo do principal vilão do Quarteto Fantástico, por funcionar muito como um McGuiver (a conquista mundial sem um motivo para isso), é interessante ver este alcançar seus objetivos, além de ver a equipe derrotada. A solução apresentada por Stan Lee para a derrota de Doutor Destino só foi perceptível na última página da revista, e foi engenhosamente surpreendente e simples na minha opinião.
Porém, a revista apresenta pontos negativos também, todos relacionados a certos clichês das narrativas de herói: o vilão, ao alcançar seus objetivos parece se tornar tolo a ponto cometer diversos erros que não têm nada a ver com a sua personalidade. Esses tipos de situações são jogados na história para que os heróis tenham chance de se equiparar a um vilão muito poderoso, e acaba danificando a história.
Porém, visto que esse tipo de elemento no passado era algo recorrente, não atrapalhou tanto os pontos positivos da leitura. Talvez não seja uma leitura que agrade a todos, mas permitiu que me divertisse enquanto lia.
September 19, 2022
Não costumo ler HQ de super-herói, principalmente da década de 60. Não é bom, mas também não é ruim, só é cansativo. O maior problema pra mim é a constante narração de qualquer ação. É uma história repleta de imagens, mas que utiliza tão pouco delas. Dito isso, a arte é fantástica, gosto desse estilo quadrinho antigo. Sobre as histórias em si, a origem do Pantera Negra é um caso de "poderia ser pior, e ainda bem que não é". As histórias solo dos membros do quarteto serviram pra dar mais destaque para os membros, que são bem definidos. Um é sério e responsável, outro é bruto e com bom coração, tem o adolescente impulsivo e tem a mulher. As histórias são bastante pulp, no sentido de barato. Mas tem potencial e arte bonita, devem ficar melhor com o passar das décadas.
January 3, 2024
Peak Stan Lee/Jack Kirby - an absolute classic, stock full of classic characters. Not only The Fantastic Four, Doctor Doom & Silver Surfer, but The Inhumans, Sandman and the debuts of The Black Panther & Klaw. The writing seems a little clunky these days, but Kirby's artwork still pops. There was a reason this was published under the banner "The World's Greatest Comic Magazine!", at the time, it probably was.
November 17, 2021
Continuing the narrative from the Galactus epic, this maintains the story up to the conclusion of their encounter with Dr Doom.
This is pretty complex story telling for what would have been a young audience at the time. It's still pretty complex for this no longer young audience.
Still ambitious, still terrific.
This is pretty complex story telling for what would have been a young audience at the time. It's still pretty complex for this no longer young audience.
Still ambitious, still terrific.
February 5, 2025
My first time actually getting to know the Fantastic Four and Dr Doom. Amazing drawing and script as always by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby, the duo of Marvel. The collection of stories are geniusly written, so immersive feels like watching a movie of them. There are so many surprise marvel characters too that you don't see often. I love this!! Definitely a 10/10.
December 2, 2021
Bit dated, but still quite fun with good stories and characterisations.
Great to see Black Panther, sliver Surfer and even Sandman appear.
One gripe: it’s called Doomsday and has Doctor Doom on the cover – but he appears only after 5/8 through!
Great to see Black Panther, sliver Surfer and even Sandman appear.
One gripe: it’s called Doomsday and has Doctor Doom on the cover – but he appears only after 5/8 through!
February 27, 2023
If you enjoy Dr. Doom, this one has him. This one has a history of him, which I did find interesting. Other than that, it was pretty standard fair for a comic.
December 19, 2024
Lots of unexpected maybe even unneeded fluff but overall quite entertaining, despite of the dumbass group of Marvel characters called the Inhumans.
May 26, 2016
Há por aqui Black Panther, The Inhumans (com aquele romance imbecilóide entre o Johnny Storm e a moça com nome de stripper), Silver Surfer e Dr. Doom (o qual, agora que se conhece a respectiva origin story, se sabe tão Dr. como Crato desconfiou que fosse Miguel Relvas).
Povoado de múltiplas e suculentas tiradas da já (por mim) anteriormente classificada como «húbris reinadia» de Stan the Man, tem o seu ponto alto na suprema arte de Jack the King, com a sua maquinaria pujantemente improvável e assoberbada e painéis que, sendo óleo sobre tela de 2 x 3 m, exporiam o usurpador Lichtenstein na sua real escala kirbyana: inexoravelmente aquém the Jack the King.
Porém, e não obstante os vários momentos de hilaridade, o elo mais fraco é a escrita hiper-explicativa e pouco obediente às mais basilares lógicas, e que macula o restante q.b. para não arrecadar o pleno classificativo.
Povoado de múltiplas e suculentas tiradas da já (por mim) anteriormente classificada como «húbris reinadia» de Stan the Man, tem o seu ponto alto na suprema arte de Jack the King, com a sua maquinaria pujantemente improvável e assoberbada e painéis que, sendo óleo sobre tela de 2 x 3 m, exporiam o usurpador Lichtenstein na sua real escala kirbyana: inexoravelmente aquém the Jack the King.
Porém, e não obstante os vários momentos de hilaridade, o elo mais fraco é a escrita hiper-explicativa e pouco obediente às mais basilares lógicas, e que macula o restante q.b. para não arrecadar o pleno classificativo.
December 4, 2015
It is amazing how well Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's works still stand up today. Yes parts are dated especially the portrayal of women but at least here Sue Richards is a little more modern and not just the damsel in distress. The stories in this volume are inventive and here we first see the Black Panther, who instantly impresses and creates a new super villain, Klaw is a villain of a lot of potential but never gets used as well as when he was first introduced. The Doom storyline is well wrote and drawn and is certainly a basis for the second Fantastic Four film. Much of what is in this book is still relevant today as it was when first written, the very building blocks Marvel has been built upon.
December 10, 2015
Pretty good early comics from the Marvel family, Fantastic Four, granted I skipped the two issues with Black Panther as I had previously just read them. So we're at the build up of Doomsday we have some important roles from the Silver Surfer, The InHumans and of course Black Panther.
Along the way the FF have trouble with Klaw, The Sandman and The Wizard but then Doctor Doom steals the Surfer's cosmic powers and becomes near on unbeatable and sets out to conquer the world and destroy the Fantastic Four.
Some good but dated dialogue, excellent pieces of action and suspense keep this book going along.
Along the way the FF have trouble with Klaw, The Sandman and The Wizard but then Doctor Doom steals the Surfer's cosmic powers and becomes near on unbeatable and sets out to conquer the world and destroy the Fantastic Four.
Some good but dated dialogue, excellent pieces of action and suspense keep this book going along.
July 1, 2016
Pretty average.
The Black Panther origin was interesting after seeing the Captain America Civil War movie and I can definitely see how it was very progressive for its time.
The main thing I didn't like was the lack of timing continuity between the different storylines with the Human Torch being able to fly huge distances while is partners engaged in short scenes.
Your mileage may differ.
The Black Panther origin was interesting after seeing the Captain America Civil War movie and I can definitely see how it was very progressive for its time.
The main thing I didn't like was the lack of timing continuity between the different storylines with the Human Torch being able to fly huge distances while is partners engaged in short scenes.
Your mileage may differ.
September 24, 2015
I used to read the Fantastic Four in the 70's and really enjoyed the comics. Here's a blast from the mid-60's! The language and behaviour would probably not appeal to today's first-time readers but it was a good read. Enough so that I'll be looking for more Mighty Marvel Pocket Books in the future.
October 15, 2011
Also includes some surprisingly unoffensive stories about the Black Panther.
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