In his preface to Ecce Homo, Friedrich Nietzsche says “With [ Thus Spoke Zarathustra ] I have given mankind the greatest present that has ever been made to it so far. This book, with a voice bridging centuries, is not only the highest book there is, the book that is truly characterized by the air of the heights—the whole fact of man lies beneath it at a tremendous distance—it is also the deepest, born out of the innermost wealth of truth, an inexhaustible well to which no pail descends without coming up again filled with gold and goodness.”
Perhaps only a contemporary mystic like Osho could truly understand what Nietzsche meant by this statement. In Love with Life shares Osho’s understanding of both Nietzsche the man and of his seminal work, with extraordinary clarity and relevance to readers in the 21st century. Ten chapters have been selected from a series of 43 talks given by Osho, first published as two A God that Can Dance, and The Laughing Prophet. Here, Nietzsche is rescued from any remaining taint brought on by the Nazi misunderstanding and appropriation of his work, and we also learn much about the mysterious and revolutionary Persian mystic Zarathustra (Zoroaster), whom Nietzsche chose as a spokesperson.
The result is an enchanting journey through a world where life is celebrated, not renounced, and where timeless truths prevail over the lies and distortions that continue to cripple our efforts to become healthy and whole.
Rajneesh (born Chandra Mohan Jain, 11 December 1931 – 19 January 1990) and latter rebranded as Osho was leader of the Rajneesh movement. During his lifetime he was viewed as a controversial new religious movement leader and mystic.
In the 1960s he traveled throughout India as a public speaker and was a vocal critic of socialism, Mahatma Gandhi, and Hindu religious orthodoxy.
Rajneesh emphasized the importance of meditation, mindfulness, love, celebration, courage, creativity and humor—qualities that he viewed as being suppressed by adherence to static belief systems, religious tradition and socialization.
In advocating a more open attitude to human sexuality he caused controversy in India during the late 1960s and became known as "the sex guru".
In 1970, Rajneesh spent time in Mumbai initiating followers known as "neo-sannyasins". During this period he expanded his spiritual teachings and commented extensively in discourses on the writings of religious traditions, mystics, and philosophers from around the world. In 1974 Rajneesh relocated to Pune, where an ashram was established and a variety of therapies, incorporating methods first developed by the Human Potential Movement, were offered to a growing Western following. By the late 1970s, the tension between the ruling Janata Party government of Morarji Desai and the movement led to a curbing of the ashram's development and a back taxes claim estimated at $5 million.
In 1981, the Rajneesh movement's efforts refocused on activities in the United States and Rajneesh relocated to a facility known as Rajneeshpuram in Wasco County, Oregon. Almost immediately the movement ran into conflict with county residents and the state government, and a succession of legal battles concerning the ashram's construction and continued development curtailed its success.
In 1985, in the wake of a series of serious crimes by his followers, including a mass food poisoning attack with Salmonella bacteria and an aborted assassination plot to murder U.S. Attorney Charles H. Turner, Rajneesh alleged that his personal secretary Ma Anand Sheela and her close supporters had been responsible. He was later deported from the United States in accordance with an Alford plea bargain.[
After his deportation, 21 countries denied him entry. He ultimately returned to India and a revived Pune ashram, where he died in 1990. Rajneesh's ashram, now known as OSHO International Meditation Resort and all associated intellectual property, is managed by the Zurich registered Osho International Foundation (formerly Rajneesh International Foundation). Rajneesh's teachings have had a notable impact on Western New Age thought, and their popularity has increased markedly since his death.
“The metamorphosis of which Zarathustra is speaking is a question of intense understanding. Listen to his words because these are not ordinary words: these are the words of a man who knows life from its very roots, and of a man who is uncompromising, of a man who will not accept any lie, howsoever comfortable, howsoever consolatory it may be.”
“you should also seek your enemy for your opinions.”
“By his weapons, millions of people were killed. And with all the money that he accumulated, he created a foundation, a charity, and now every year all the Nobel Prizes are given, just from the interest on the money. The original money remains in the bank, just the interest - and nobody bothers that this money is blood soaked. And the name of Nobel has become one of the greatest names in history. Charity is a strange game: first you cripple people and then you help them. First you destroy their environment, their ecology, and then from the same people who have been destroying the ecology of the earth, comes the money for charity.”
“It is better to be ignorant than to be knowledgeable… Renouncing knowledge means a deep inner cleansing and that is what I mean by meditation. Meditation is nothing but renouncing borrowed knowledge and becoming fully aware of one's ignorance. This brings a metamorphosis. The moment you are aware of your ignorance, ignorance goes through such a great change that unless it happens it remains unbelievable. The very ignorance becomes your innocence. The wise man also says, "I do not know." According to Zarathustra, the highest stage of consciousness is that of a child.“”
“Boys are all over the place, running for no purpose. All boys are Americans - they love speed. Don't ask where they are going, just ask whether they are going with full speed or not.”
“If you go backward, you stop at the age of four or three. What happened to those three years? No trace is left in the memory. You were so innocent that you never collected memories. You lived each moment so totally that it never left any residue.”
“It is one of the secrets of life that if you can be innocent and trusting, it is very difficult to deceive you. Your very innocence, your very trust prevents the deceiver. You may have observed it - I have observed it myself many times because I have been traveling around the country for almost twenty years, waiting for trains on the platform. If you want to go to the toilet, or you want to have a cup of tea, you strangely trust an absolutely unknown person who is sitting by your side on the bench, and you tell him, "Just look after my luggage, I will be coming back."
“And when he married the eighth time, after two months he realized that he had married this woman once before, but it was a long time ago. Another thing he found: each time he had tried to find a new woman, but within six months the story would become the same. It is a strange thing - he goes to faraway lands to find a new woman, but every woman turns out, within six months, to be the same. But he never understood that he is the same”
“This whole nonsense of marriage makes the man important. The woman becomes just a shadow. Why, after marriage, does a woman have to take her husband's name? These are subtle ways to make it clear to her that now she is secondary. She no longer has her own identity; her husband is her identity. Naturally, marriage can never be peaceful. Wherever there is an effort of domination there is going to be conflict and struggle.“
“There are scriptures in Jainism and in Hinduism saying the same kind of thing. One wonders, "What kind of religious people were these?" In Jainism there are scriptures telling the Jainas: "Even if you find a mad elephant chasing you, and death is certain, even if you can save your life by entering a Hindu temple which is just nearby, it is better to die, better to be killed by the mad ele-phant, than to take shelter in a Hindu temple." Such an uncompromising attitude! The same is repeated in Hindu scriptures. Exactly the same, word for word: "It is better to die, to be killed by the mad elephant, but don't enter a Jaina temple to save your life." What kind of religious people are these? What kind of religious scriptures are these? What harm can the Jaina temple do to the Hindu? Or what harm can the Hindu temple do to the Jaina? The harm is that you might hear something that goes against your faith that can disturb your belief. It is better to die, but not to be disturbed in your faith. And to me, a faith that can be disturbed is not of any worth. Every faith will be disturbed unless it is your own knowing - but then it cannot be called "faith."”
“Just a few days ago there was a statement of Zarathustra that, "At the great noontide, at the highest peak of evolution of man, when the superman arrives, almost like a god, he will be ashamed of his clothes; he will be ashamed of hiding things. He would like to be an open book." If you meet Zarathustra somewhere, just tell him, "Don't let your god come to Pune because the police commissioner of Pune will not allow your god to be ashamed of his clothes!"
“Just the other day I was informed that there was another case...For thirty years I have been in so many cases. In not a single case have they been able to prove anything against me because whatever I have said was in their scriptures. If they want to put a case against anybody, it should be against those scriptures, their publishers.“
“The question of the saint is the question of all the saints of the world, all the buddhas, all the mystics, all the awakened ones. You have become a child, you are awakened: " ...what do you want now with the sleepers?" You are an absolute stranger to them. They will punish you, they may kill you. Your very presence will become a danger to their sleep, a danger to their misery, a danger to their blindness. "You lived in solitude as in the sea, and the sea bore you. Alas, do you want to go ashore? Alas, do you want again to drag your body yourself?" Have you forgotten the day you had come to the mountains? Do you want to be the same old self again? Why are you going down-ward, leaving your sunlit peaks? You know in the valleys there is darkness alone. What is the purpose of your going? Zarathustra answered: "I love mankind." In those three words is contained Zarathustra's whole philos-ophy: "I love mankind. I love life. I had not renounced the world. I had not come to the mountains as an antilife escapist. I had come to the mountains to find myself, my aloneness, my freedom, my wisdom. I have found it. "Now there is no need for me to remain on the heights. On the contrary, I am so full that I need people to share with. I want to share my love, I want to share my wisdom, I want to share my freedom. I am too overloaded - I am overflowing." "Why," said the saint, "did I go into the forest and the desert? Was it not because I loved mankind all too much?" The saint says, "I have also gone into the mountains, into the in love with life forest because I loved mankind all too much. It has become a slavery, and it has become a dependence. It was bringing me only misery and nothing else." But there is a difference. He loved mankind ...all too much... when he was ignorant, when he himself was asleep. Zarathustra loves mankind when he is fully awake, when he is enlightened. The love of the unawakened is nothing but lust. Only the awakened knows the beauty and the spirituality, and the divinity of love. It is no longer a bondage.”
“He's not saying that you start killing. He's saying that if worst comes to worst, the enemy should not be left to destroy you, to rape your women, to destroy your property, to take away your dignity, to make you slaves.”
“Adolf Hitler and his followers, the Nazis, have done so much harm to the world because they prevented the world from understanding Friedrich Nietzsche and his true meaning. And it was not only one thing; about every other concept too, they have the same kind of misunderstanding. It is such a sad fate, one which has never befallen any great mystic or any great poet before Nietzsche. The crucifixion of Jesus or poisoning of Socrates are not as bad a fate as that which has befallen Friedrich Nietzsche - to be misunderstood on such a grand scale that Adolf Hitler managed to kill more than eight million people in the name of Friedrich Nietzsche and his philosophy. It will take a little time.... When Adolf Hitler and the Nazis and the second world war are forgotten, Nietzsche will come back to his true light. He is coming back. But Friedrich Nietzsche has to be interpreted again, so that all the nonsense that has been put, by the Nazis, over his beautiful philosophy can be thrown away. People understand according to their own level of consciousness. It was just a coincidence that Nietzsche fell into the hands of the Nazis. They needed a philosophy for war, and Nietzsche appreciates the beauty of the warrior. They wanted some idea for which to fight, and Nietzsche gave them a good excuse - for the superman. Of course, they immediately got hold of the idea of superman... They wanted to dominate the world, and Nietzsche was very helpful, because he was saying that man's deepest longing is "will to power." They changed it into will to dominate. Now they had the whole philosophy: the Nordic German Aryans are the superior race because they are going to give birth to the Superman…These beautiful concepts... Nietzsche could not ever have imagined they would become so dangerous and such a nightmare to the whole of humanity. But you cannot avoid being misunderstood, you cannot do anything about it. Once you have said something, then it all depends on the other person, what he is going to make of it. But Nietzsche is so immensely important that he has to be cleaned of all the garbage that the Nazis have put on his ideas.”
“It is very easy to love God; it is very difficult to love man.”
“There should be no organized religions because they have been preventing individual search. They go on handing over to people ready-made truths, and truth is not a toy, you cannot get it ready-made. There is no factory that manufactures it and there is no market where it is available. You will have to search for it in the deepest silences of your own heart. And except you, nobody else can go there. Religion is individual - this is a new value. Nations are ugly, religious organizations are irreligious, churches and temples and synagogues and gurudwaras are just ridiculous. The whole of existence is sacred. The whole of existence is the temple. And wherever you sit silently, meditatively, lovingly, you create a temple of consciousness around you. You need not go anywhere to worship because there is nobody higher than your consciousness to whom you owe any worship.
‘To create freedom for itself and a sacred No even to duty: the lion is needed for that, my brothers.’
You have been told continually that duty is a great value. In fact, it is a four-letter...a dirty word. If you love your wife because it is your duty, then you don't love. You love your duty, you don't love your wife. If you love your mother because it is your duty, you don't love your mother. Duty destroys all that is beautiful in man - love, compassion, joy. People even laugh because it is their duty. I have heard that in one office the boss used to call all the people, just before the office day began, into his room. He knew only three jokes, and every day he would tell a joke, and it was, of course, absolutely necessary that everybody laughed. It was a duty. And they were bored with those jokes because they had heard them thousands of times, but still they would laugh as if they were hearing it for the first time. One day, when he told the joke, everybody laughed - only a girl who was a typist did not laugh. The boss said, "What is the matter with you? Did you hear the joke or not?" She said, "The joke? I am resigning from this post. I have joined another office. Now it is no longer a duty for me to laugh at a joke that I have heard at least ten thousand times. Let all these idiots laugh because these poor fellows still have to remain in this office."”
“In the lion, it is capable of saying no but is incapable of saying yes. The child knows nothing of the camel, knows nothing of the lion. That's why Zarathustra says: ...the child is innocence and forgetful-ness... His yes is pure and he has every potential to say no. If he does not say it, it is because he trusts, not because he is afraid; not out of fear, but out of trust. And when yes comes out of trust, it is the greatest metamorphosis, the greatest transformation that one can hope for.”
Zerdüşt incelemesi olarak okudum. Bu anlamda Osho Nietzsche'nin Güç Istencini çoğu filozoftan çok daha iyi kavramış olduğunu gördüm. Zerdüşt'ten seçtiği harika alıntılar ile konuyu cok güzel açıklıyor. Ancak kendi görüşlerini sadece satır aralarina yerleştirmek değil paragraflar dolusu olarak anlatması bana göre kitabın değerini biraz düşürmüş. Özellikle pasifizme kayan hikayeleri Nietzsche ye hiç uymuyor. Ayrıca konuyla alakasız noktalara girip çıkması da biraz gereksiz olmuş. Ama özetle Güç istenci ve birazda da üstinsan mevzusunda filozof diliyle değil de normal dille açık ve seçik olarak yazılmış bir kitap okumak isteyen için harika bir kitap.
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الكتاب عبارة عن تأملات أوشو لفكر الفيلسوف الألماني فريدريك نيتشه من خلال نقد كتابه "هكذا تكلم زاردشت" . أوشو يبين في كتابه مدى اعجابه بفكر الفيلسوف نيتشه ومدى استنكاره للعداء الموجه على فلسفاته موضحا أنه تمت اساءة فهمه بشكل كبير على مر السنين، خاصة وأن كتابات نيتشه تعتبر مختصرة ومقتضبة مما ساعد على إساءة تأويلها واستغلالها من قبل النازية كتشريع للحرب العالمية الثانية .
أوشو يري في تعاليم زاردشت النبي الذي ألف عنه نيتشه كتاب "هكذا تكلم زاردشت" حكمة سابقة لعصرها ، ودعوة للحب والحياة السعيدة دون قيود الدين والتعقيدات الفقهية لسلوكيات الإنسان الحر .
والجدير بالذكر أن زاردشت في التاريخ كان إنسانا موحدا يدعو لإله واحد ، أما زاردشت في كتاب نيتشه فيدعو بأن الإله قد مات ، وهذا ما يدعو للتساؤل أي النسختين لزاردشت هي الحقيقية وأيهما الرمز ؟ ولما اختار نيتشه زاردشت الموحد "تاريخيا" وألبسه ثوب الإلحاد ؟
الكتاب مليء بالآراء الجامحة والشاطحة نوعا ما ، وموجهة بشكل أساسي ضد الدين والمتدينين من كل الديانات سواء كانت سماوية أو غير ذلك ، ولكنه وللأمانة لم يخلو من حكمة في وصف مراحل الوعي للإنسان وضرورة تحقيقه لأقصى إمكانيات ذاته على شاكلة "السوبرمان" لنيتشه ، وذلك من خلال اعتناق الحياة والثورة على الجهل والرجعية والقيود الدينية الغير سليمة.
كتاب يستحق القراءة لمن يمتلك عين موضوعية تنتقي الحكمة من الجنون والذهب من الوحل ، لا ينصح بقراءته لمن لا يقبل النقد الديني ونقد الإله خصوصا.
This book is Osho's take on Nietzsche's Thus Spoke Zarathustra, which is quite wordy, yet vague. It's no surprise some of the biggest jerks of the 20th Century (Adolph Hitler, Ayn Rand have co-opted Nietzsche's works. Osho gives a fresh take on Nietzsche's Uber Man as an enlightened being.
The book is formatted with excerpts from Thus Spoke Zarathustra followed by Osho riffing his take on the excerpt. According to the book, these are all transcribed from his talks as none of this was written by Osho. I think that's a big part of the problem with this book. Osho gives great insights at times, but also goes off on tangents. One of the most egregious tangents is an incredibly offensive homophobic rant that was hard to believe I was reading. I already know about Osho's shady past with the cult and Rolls Royces, but this made me like Osho even less. I understand Osho probably said this in the '80s or earlier when that kind of thinking was a bit more acceptable, but this book was put out in 2014.
In general, this book would have benefitted from tighter editing. There was some gold here for sure, but also lots of filler to sift thru. I would recommend this book to you if you're in that Venn diagram that is into both Osho and Nietzsche and can deal with a really stupid homophobic rant.
Thus Spoke Zarathustra is what Osho ranks his number 1 book out of 70,000+ books he's read. This book is an excellent aid to help you interpret it. Good luck without it!
Neste livo, Osho mostra de uma forma leve e entusiasta pelo pensamento do filósofo Nietzsche.
Através da análise dos seus textos, Osho foi capaz de compreender aquilo que outros não conseguiram: a sabedoria adquirida com a idade, a amor e a felicidade da vida sem que a religião a sufoque.
Para além disso, há uma questão que é central nesta obra: o Deus mencionado por Zardasht será real em alguma das suas versões ou apenas algo simbólico? Pois, por sua vez, Nietzsche refere que Deus morreu. Em suma, há uma questão religiosa que nos coloca a pensar criticamente acerca daquilo em que acreditamos.
É um livro que recomendo a quem gosta deste tipo de escrita e género: que têm a capacidade e a destreza para descortinar todas as entrelinhas que Nietzsche nos apresenta. Por outro lado, aqueles que não aceitam outras visões da religião, acredito que não gostarão muito da obra.