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Hi Mark,
Your reviews ... were recently flagged by Goodreads members as potentially off-topic:
All Flesh is Grass
The 5th Wave The Void Moomins Cookbook An Uncommon Whore
As the reviews are not about the books in question, they have been removed from the site. You can find the text of the reviews attached.
If you continue to post content like this, your account may come under review for removal.
Oct 10, 2013 03:16PM

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message 1: by Arthur (new)

Arthur Graham Did ya tell 'em where to go?


message 2: by Trudi (new)

Trudi Boo. As your official interwebs fangirl, this makes me sad.


message 3: by [deleted user] (new)

Wait, seriously? What the fuck?


message 4: by mark (new)

mark monday Arthur wrote: "Did ya tell 'em where to go?"

my thoughts on their policies were quite clear in the content they deleted and it pleases me that someone on staff viewed those comments.

and to think that they are fellow San Franciscans - oh, the shame of it!


message 5: by mark (new)

mark monday Trudi wrote: "Boo. As your official interwebs fangirl, this makes me sad."

indeed! yet expected.


message 6: by mark (last edited Oct 10, 2013 03:33PM) (new)

mark monday Ceridwen wrote: "Wait, seriously? What the fuck?"

seriously!
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message 7: by Paul (new)

Paul Bryant


message 8: by mark (new)

mark monday removed text:

All Flesh is Grass, by Clifford D. Simak

All Flesh is Grass, and so are all websites consumed by greed. I mean srsly, did you check out that twitter post from that one goodreads author showing how much this website is invested in making this an author-centric website? and how little it cares about the folks who actually produce content for this website? Simak would not approve!



The 5th Wave, by Rick Yancey

the first wave was The Golden Agers and that's David and his buddies. the second wave was The Silver Agers and that's probably Nancy & Kemper & Dan and them. the third wave is just Stephen, he deserves his own wave. now he's gone, thanks a lot mean Golden Agers for driving him away. the fourth wave is Katrina Lumsden and her review for 50 Shades of Grey. the fifth wave will be all those people still to come who will write 5 stars review for all of the authors who pay Goodreads to merchandise their books and to drive away all those nasty reviewers who are mean to them and make mean shelves all about them. cause it's all about them. the sixth wave will be the Goodreads Apocalypse!



The Void, by Brett J. Talley

The Void; or, what lurks at the heart of Goodreads' new policy of censorship.



Moomins Cookbook, by Tove Jansson

I heard somewhere that Tove Jansson had a lot of orgies with the Moomins. and a fat ass. well, not that she had an orgy that included an overweight donkey, but rather that baby got some back, you know?

FLAG



An Uncommon Whore, by Belinda McBride

An Uncommon Whore; Or, The Story of Goodreads' Acquisition by Amazon
by Belinda McBride (Goodreads Author)

FLAG


[I am actually quite enthusiastic about reading this one! it looks enjoyable. but I really couldn't resist using the title for my own sordid little joke.]


message 9: by Paul (last edited Oct 10, 2013 03:47PM) (new)

Paul Bryant as I said just now to Mark, these aren't even especially vicious, just a little playful. So this is getting kind of really creepy. Mark is one of GR's most popular reviewers. Even so, they're going to delete his account if he persists in posting some jokey non-reviews.

I was a Silver Ager by the way.


message 10: by [Name Redacted] (new)

[Name Redacted] RE-POST THEM ALL IMMEDIATELY!


message 11: by Alfaniel (new)

Alfaniel Aldavan Seriously! Wow. These were among my first flagged reviews, clearly (and not subtly) flagged sarcastically.

Paul, you're next.


message 12: by [Name Redacted] (new)

[Name Redacted] Also, that sort of humorless obsession with offense in the service of protecting innocent eyes/ears from scandalous ideas...is pretty much what I remember about San Francisco when I lived out there. ;)


message 13: by Francine (new)

Francine sniff...


message 14: by Alfaniel (last edited Oct 10, 2013 04:37PM) (new)

Alfaniel Aldavan "Flagged as potentially off-topic" and "they were not about the books in question"?

There is no "author behavior" in any of them.
(edit: the review of Moomins Cookbook concerns also the author actually, the rest do not. That's 1/5.)


message 15: by mark (new)

mark monday [Name Redacted By Goodreads Because Irrelevant to Review] wrote: "Also, that sort of humorless obsession with offense in the service of protecting innocent eyes/ears from scandalous ideas...is pretty much what I remember about San Francisco when I lived out there..."

how dare you! monster!


message 16: by mark (last edited Oct 10, 2013 04:05PM) (new)

mark monday Alfaniel wrote: "Seriously! Wow. These were among my first flagged reviews, clearly (and not subtly) flagged sarcastically.

Paul, you're next."


Manny should be coming up soon! perhaps the reviews by Ian & Ceridwen as well. Goodreads Machine Marches On!


message 17: by Julio (new)

Julio Genao liked, unliked, liked again, and flagged, so they have to read them all over again, the fuckers.


message 18: by Alfaniel (new)

Alfaniel Aldavan Lets Hydra them.


message 19: by Emma Sea (new)

Emma Sea But...but...why'd you pick on Tove Jansson? Why fatshame a female author because you're mad at GR?


message 20: by Alfaniel (new)

Alfaniel Aldavan OK, they weren't the most carefully written reviews and indeed off-topic. But they don't concern author behavior (so the new rule doesn't exactly apply, even).

Take this:
All Flesh is Grass, and so are all websites consumed by greed. I mean srsly, did you check out that twitter post from that one goodreads author showing how much this website is invested in making this an author-centric website? and how little it cares about the folks who actually produce content for this website? Simak would not approve!

The structure of this text is:
(book title)
(parallel of the reviewer between [book title] and [real-world event])
(opinion of the reviewer that [real-world event] is a subject the author feels strongly against, in his works)

What is wrong with that?


message 21: by mark (new)

mark monday Sea wrote: "But...but...why'd you pick on Tove Jansson? Why fatshame a female author because you're mad at GR?"

I love Tove Jansson and I love a fat ass. seriously.

also, she passed away in 2001. RIP!


message 22: by Julio (new)

Julio Genao mark wrote: "...and I love a fat ass. seriously."

*perks up*


message 24: by Emma Sea (last edited Oct 10, 2013 04:38PM) (new)

Emma Sea mark wrote: "I love Tove Jansson and I love a fat ass. seriously. also, she passed away in 2001...."

Yes, your context makes it clear you are celebrating a diversity of sizes and sexualities. /sarcasm font

So it's OK to fatshame Sarah Baartman because she's also dead? And your comments totally don't represent a culture of body-shaming that subtly enforces self-censorship? And they won't make anyone uncomfortable, thereby dividing and diluting the resistance against GRamazon oppression?


message 25: by mark (new)

mark monday Sea, please go back under your bridge, with the other trolls. your comment misses the point and is tedious to boot. shoo!


message 26: by Emma Sea (new)

Emma Sea mark wrote: "Sea, please go back under your bridge, with the other trolls. your comment misses the point and is tedious to boot. shoo!"

It is disappointing you can't be more reflective about this.


message 27: by Carmen (new)

Carmen Tee-Hee!! I understand their policy but really?! I would hate to have the job of reading EVERYONE'S reviews on here. At least you gave them something interesting to read! :D


message 28: by mark (last edited Oct 10, 2013 04:50PM) (new)

mark monday Sea wrote: "It is disappointing you can't be more reflective about this."

do not attempt to hijack a thread that is about Goodreads censorship so that it becomes about you and your issues with me.

now shoo!

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message 29: by Alfaniel (new)

Alfaniel Aldavan I see where Sea is coming from, and it could've been avoided. But whether we like it or not, there is no definition of good taste, nor can we enforce the lack of cultural prejudges.

I reposted the text of these reviews. By my own choice, I did not repost the text on Tove.
I don't assign blame here, and I support mark's right to say it. But this one, I don't want it on my account.


message 30: by mark (new)

mark monday Alfaniel wrote: "I reposted the..."

well thank you and I do appreciate the effort!


message 31: by Alfaniel (last edited Oct 10, 2013 04:59PM) (new)

Alfaniel Aldavan mark wrote: "Alfaniel wrote: "I reposted the..."

well thank you and I do appreciate the effort!"


Feel free to take your turn to flag :)

My shelf goodreads-reviews is at everyone's disposal for your flagging pleasure. One is mine, some are Hydra copies, some are other protests.
https://www.goodreads.com/review/list...


message 32: by mark (new)

mark monday Alfaniel, I'm sad to report that your review linked to in msg 23 now appears to be missing.


message 33: by Laura (last edited Oct 10, 2013 05:04PM) (new)

Laura Mark, I don't know you, but Paul's comment came up in my feed. It is extremely creepy that they have deleted those reviews. It feels very Big Brother-ish. Wow, Amazon.....I'm extremely disappointed, to say the least. Please tell me you have better things to do with your time.


message 34: by [Name Redacted] (last edited Oct 10, 2013 05:04PM) (new)

[Name Redacted] Sea wrote: "mark wrote: "Sea, please go back under your bridge, with the other trolls. your comment misses the point and is tedious to boot. shoo!"

It is disappointing you can't be more reflective about this."


It is disappointing that you completely missed the point of the ironic reviews.

And I'll say whatever I like about San Francisco! I'm so bold! So daring!


message 35: by Alfaniel (new)

Alfaniel Aldavan Checked! You're right. That was quick. I just received emails from GR.

Your reviews of All Flesh is Grass and The Hydra were recently brought to our attention. Please note that any reviews you post must contain your own original content (see our review guidelines). Given this, they have been removed. We have attached copies for your personal records.

If you continue to post content of this nature, your account may come under review.


Lets see Review Guidelines:
Reviews must be your own original content. Reviews that plagiarize from another source or use copyrighted material without permission will be deleted.

These reviews did NOT plagiarize.
These reviews use copyrighted material WITH permission.

With permission, GR.


message 36: by mark (new)

mark monday wow! that was so fast. I think someone is watching this thread closely. I have a Goodreads employee stalker!

::cold, sexy chill::


message 37: by Julio (new)

Julio Genao humorless fucktards be climbing thru windows

hide yo kids, hide yo wife, etc


message 38: by Alfaniel (new)

Alfaniel Aldavan Corporate thinking seems unable to understand the concept of free sharing.

Copyright is equal to them, to only one (at most two, author and publisher), person or entity allowed to post content.

Wrong, GR. There is such thing as people sharing and giving permission to share their content freely.


message 39: by Alfaniel (new)

Alfaniel Aldavan mark wrote: "wow! that was so fast. I think someone is watching this thread closely."

Yes. My Hydra copy review was older, but the other 3 removed were yours, I posted several minutes ago.


message 40: by Kemper (new)

Kemper Silver Age rules!!!


message 41: by William Herschel (new)

William Herschel Well, this is scary. I was under the impression I could write whatever I wanted in my review section. I am not reviewing a /product/, but I suppose Amazon might not understand what a non-product is anymore.


message 42: by David (new)

David Paul Bryant, you were a Golden Ager.


message 43: by David (new)

David In the Golden Age we could call Joyce Carol Oates a harelipped Nazi with impunity. Good bye, halcyon days of yore.


message 44: by [Name Redacted] (new)

[Name Redacted] David wrote: "In the Golden Age we could call Joyce Carol Oates a harelipped Nazi with impunity. Good bye, halcyon days of yore."

Us Golden Agers should shake our canes and demand that the new regime get off our lawns!


message 45: by mark (new)

mark monday but you've always struck me as so Silver Age!


message 46: by [deleted user] (new)

Can we call this the shark-jump?

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 47: by mark (new)

mark monday ha! you were actually writing a preliminary report, not a summary. more censorship to come!

well, I guess someone is busy in downtown san fran going through all the flagged reviews. what a job!


message 48: by [deleted user] (new)

I see they have gone back to the "please refrain" threats.


message 49: by Moira (new)

Moira Russell Ceridwen wrote: "Can we call this the shark-jump?

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/..."


.....oh dear.


message 50: by Arthur (new)

Arthur Graham Ceridwen wrote: "I see they have gone back to the "please refrain" threats."

I think they should just tell us to "acquiesce" instead.


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