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[44]"This problem is exceedingly difficult, because it not only challenges the whole man, but reminds him at the same time of his helplessness and ineffectuality. Strong natures—or should one rather call them weak?—do not like to be reminded of this, but prefer to think of themselves as heroes who are beyond good and evil, and to cut the Gordian knot instead of untying it."
Alexander the G! OMG never see this comes.

[29]Just as in Christianity the vow of worldly poverty turned the mind away from the riches of this earth, so spiritual poverty seeks to renounce the false riches of the spirit in order to withdraw not only from the sorry remnants, a.k.a the Protestant church, of a great past, but also from all the allurements of the odorous East; in order, finally, to dwell with itself alone, where, in the cold light of consciousnes

[28]It actually reminds me of the last US election, Bernie Sanders keeps bringing up the social and medical insurance topics of China, which as a Chinese myself I know he's talking bullshit. So it's double psyche trick. Not just filling the gap of lost faith by social ideas (read:lies), but also teasing collective mental tide towards east and area they definitely don't know, which is naturally attractive. Dick move.

[28]
"Anyone who has lost the historical and cannot be satisfied by substitutes is certainly in a very difficult position today: before him there yawns the void, and he turns away from it in horror. What is worse, the vacuum is filled with absurd political and social ideas, which one and all are distinguished by their spiritual bleakness."
OK!! This is the level!

[28]
"It seems to me that it would be far better stoutly to avow our spiritual poverty, our symbol lessness, instead of feigning a legacy to which we are not the legitimate heir at all."
...ok, so?

idk but Jung is someone whenever I read I constantly want to quote and share tons of his words.

“[23]The history of Protestantism has been one of chronic iconoclasm. One wall after another fell...Although this is, properly speaking, a lamentable collapse that offends our sense of history, the disintegration of Protestantism into nearly four hundred denominations is yet a sure sign that the restlessness continues”

"But whether a certain act is constructive or destructive can never be conclusively determined...An act of aggression is a transaction, and how it is judged obviously depends on the perspective of the participants. Who is to decide? Asking about the gored ox is not enough."

"Taking charge of a sandbox can be healthy testing of one's power rather than an anguished cry for attention. And adults for their parts, act aggressively more merely to insult, maim, or kill. The woman's movement of the nineteenth century, the pugnacity characteristic of its humor, and its forceful campaigns to master self and nature, shows how aggressiveness, could enlisted to conquer a world w/out brutalizing it."

"They exhibited the familiar fact that aggression, no matter how benign in intent or result, leaves bruised casualties in its wake."

"In an age of drastic upheaval in virtually every dimension of life from finance to transport, morals to politics, art to architecture, the problem of aggression proved just another, if critically important, ground for confusions, hesitations - and controversies."

"The expression of other feelings, less successfully repressed, may be dampened down by fear, prudence, well-rehearsed lesson in decorum, or the censorious prodding of the superego. They may issue merely in a scowl a muttered sarcasm - or a neurotic symptom."
They always distorted...then they are unconscious.

"The old dispensation, as the theologians call it, has rolled by, carrying its symbols of the skin-shedding serpent, the sea, the dying and renewing life of the earth. And whatever happens to human fortunes in the next thirty years, it is still there, ready to roll again."
....beautiful.

All happened 30 yrs b4 the birth of Christ. "It'd have been strange if Christ born into a world whose temporal master was a protege of Hercules ruling the world probably from Egypt. It is partly in this context that the upper limits of Antony and Cleopatra become so significant: of Antony as a failed pagan or heroic incarnation, of Cleopatra as a goddess of love, of the sea, of the overflowing Nile."

Augustus Caesar becomes the master of the world bcs he knows exactly the limit, substance and location of the world that can be mastered. Antony is looking into a world of process and metamorphosis, a far greater world than Ceasar's but can never be conquered unless he controls death itself. Cleopatra chooses Antony instead of Ceasar for C is "but Fortune's knave" unable to dream of transcending world (and divinity).

The fall of Antony, "the chaos is social as well as cosmic bcs with the loss of such a leader the hierarchy on which all existence depends collapses, as Lear's world after his abdication collapses into the world symbolized by the storm."

The desertion of Antony by Hercules means that Antony has failed to become a pagan incarnation (while Cleopatra is the incarnation of Venus...ish). "Such heroic incarnation always fail", gods give flaws to keep them the human level.
But, they are just human, all is just their intensity of humanity no matter how hard they strive.

Someone, I newly added as a friend somewhere else on internet, who I found studying the same field (approximately) as I did, posts an article on Romeo and Juliet musical on TL which she claims she writes seriously, analytically and with depth.
I hold high expectation bcs fandom sometimes creates germs. But after reading it I think she's joking very hard about that "seriously and analytically and with depth" part.

"...speaking of A Midsummer Night's Dream, Bottom got closer than any other to the central experience of the play even if he didn't altogether know it...It takes a fool or clown to see into the heart of comedy. Perhaps it takes a madman to see into the heart of tragedy, the dark tower of Lear's fury and tenderness, rage and sympathy, scorn and courtesy, and finally his broken heart."

"Edgar...is holding a mirror up to Lear's growing madness, somewhat as, to refer to a very different play, Petruchio tries to cure Katharina's shrewishness by showing her in his own behaviour what it looks like."

"Nothing":
1. King's two bodies: a dead king is a king, a living king without kingship (identity) is nothing, annihilation is worse than death.
That's the point about Lear's knights and why Regan wants him impotent.
2.The essence of human virtue, the love, loyalty, good faith, have no cause. There's no "why" about them.

The nature theme relates to the hierarchy idea of Shakespeare's time:
1. God above world - World of impotent or non-exist God tends to collapse under the personification of nature power;
2. Nature Level I, stars, Garden of Eden, man supposed to be - the essence of human virtue, a world rep by Cordelia's and Edgar's love, etc.;
3. Nature Level II, the physical nature, a world of predator-prey law
4. Hell - madness

The "Nature" in King Lear:
1. Lear - The nature for upper human level, for man of amenities of civilization, with love, loyalty and authority and being social, etc.;
2. Edmund - The nature that indifference to human, live to follow the animal pattern of existence, according to the law of predator and prey.

It takes me some time to realize Frye's talking abt the death drive that beyond pleasure principle, not some being "aware" or whatever shadow ghostly malice drive so things can be prevented. Hamlet is always aware of the ghostly voice, it's just the death drive of consciousness, the order, that get upper hand of pleasure principle to action results in his inaction. He just...there's no way other than death for him.

Action, often murderous, remedies the claustrophobia of un-gratified consciousness, but consciousness is also of death drive. It kills action to retain peace and calm as well. The withdraw from action is the only way to kill an action before it set to kill something. A ghost influence can only cast shade below rather than do sure harm, no matter how malicious, without acting it into real world.

Claudius & Hamlet r both characters whose potential fatally blocked by something, the former by things he has done and can never undo, the latter by the aware claustrophobia of consciousness.
"It takes a very unusual mind to feel that simply to be a finite human being to be in some sense a prisoner. We all build secondary prisons out of our actions; but these are projections of the deeper prison of what we are."

"The heroic side of it relates to what has been manifested...Fortinbras assumes that he would have been a great king and warrior too: two roles in which we've never seen him."
His earnest injunction to Horatio to tell his story express something similar to the last speech of Othello. "It asked for a totally conscious judgment, not just a subtracting of bad deeds from good ones."

"(Hamlet), the ironic side of the play relates to what has been done, which is precisely nothing, unless we call violent death something."

Hamlet's view equals not to Shakespeare's. His view on everything happened, though close to what we're likely to accept, are surcharged with his melancholy. "That is, they are sick."
His self-reproaches are sick too.

Henry IV, "his great strength has always been in his ability to take short views, to do what has to be done at the time...but in this play a long and desolated speech breaks out of him about how any youth, if he could see the entire pattern of time stretching out ahead of him, would simply lie down and die and refuse to go through with it."