The Obama vs. McCain group! discussion
PRESIDENT(offically) OBAMA!
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Kaytrina
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Jan 20, 2009 06:19PM

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Well, I used to not like Obama, but I'm fine with him now...so, if u hate Obama, then GET OVER IT! Nothin u can do now...
IDk. I just changed my mind. Besides, it was silly. I didn't even kno why I didn't like him.

IDK...I used to think he was a secret Muslim, but I decided tht was ridiculous...and I didn't say I liked him...i said I'm fine with him.
What the fuck is wrong with Muslims? You have a problem with someone not being christian? Just because a small group of Muslims are terrorists doesn't give anyone the right to group all Muslims as terrorists...
I WASN'T SAYING THT!!!
But wouldn't you be a bi frighened if you though the prez was a Muslim?!
Even tho I don't think tht anymore.
But wouldn't you be a bi frighened if you though the prez was a Muslim?!
Even tho I don't think tht anymore.
Um, no, I wouldn't be frightened if we had a Muslin president.

What is your definition of muslim?

What is your definition of Muslim and Christian?
Muslim: I agree with you, following Islamic law.
Christian: someone who believes in god and jesus and all that er, stuff, a follower of the bible.
Christian: someone who believes in god and jesus and all that er, stuff, a follower of the bible.

Who is Jesus? Who is God?
(I just want you to really understand what I mean when I talk about Christianity.) :-)
God is a mythical person who creates, destroys, changes everything and has only given the knowledge of him to some people and has made some pretty stupid decisions just so he could send people to hell.
Jesus is his eternally damned son.
Neither exist. They are characters in stories that have always been changed so we know that truth has been squashed.
Jesus is his eternally damned son.
Neither exist. They are characters in stories that have always been changed so we know that truth has been squashed.

Do you really know what the Bible says? Have you actually read it? Or are you just running on what someone else has told you?
All of your accusations aren't truly about Christianity.
Another thing, what exactly do you believe?
I believe in evolution because there is more evidence.
Kathleen, I've been to church (and not being skeptic about it) and read some of the bible (the kids version) and I went to VBS for like 4 years in a row. my dad has read me some when he was proving a point to me (like how "god" is SOOOOOOO nice and forgiving like when he shot fire down at earth and that man offered up his daughters to hte villagers to rape instead of the angles.)
Kathleen, I've been to church (and not being skeptic about it) and read some of the bible (the kids version) and I went to VBS for like 4 years in a row. my dad has read me some when he was proving a point to me (like how "god" is SOOOOOOO nice and forgiving like when he shot fire down at earth and that man offered up his daughters to hte villagers to rape instead of the angles.)
Why were you asking if we "actually knew" what it meant to be Muslim in the first place? Are you saying that we don't know what it really means to be muslim and they are harmful??!!


Miss Independent,
Can you give me some evidence please? Or just a link to a place that I can read about some evidence. I haven't found any good stuff yet.
And I am trying to understand the point you were making about church, VBS, and all that...
No, I just wanted to know if you knew what the 5 pillars were. What the Qur'an says about those who aren't a Muslim.
http://anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evol...
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibr...
And you should call my Mayrose because I change my name about 50 times a day.
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibr...
And you should call my Mayrose because I change my name about 50 times a day.
Oh Kathleen, you are co-signing everything Sara Jean says! Look at the other side would you! Just because he's a different relegion than you racist people are doesn't mean he isn't american!

Obama is NOT Muslim. Even if he was, what difference does it make? He still wants to help America, and his religion doesn't change ANYTHING about it.
I, personally, believe in both God and evolution. There is evidence for both. I think God created man, but not the man of today. I think man evolved into what it is today. And people can still have their views on how man was created, but that's my belief.
Thanx for backing me up, Drizzleherb!
I hate Kathleen and Sara Jean! They are such racists!
I just talk bad to them!

I am really very sorry if I offend you! I try to not make things personal or against any one person on this group. Of course, we are talking about politics and Obama so that doesn't count. I am not racist, Cassie, as I have have firmly said before. Stop forcing that title on me! I have said nothing against "races" and I never put down Obama because he's black.
Cassie, I have looked at the other side. Why would I argue if I hadn't? Before I get involved in a debate about any topic, I make sure that I have studied both sides!
Drizzleherb, you think that Theistic Evolution is okay? Would you say that there is a definite way things happened? (This isn't religion by the way, just a question)
Also,do you think that religion shouldn't affect the political areas of life?
To finish, I really think that you guys need to stop taking things I say personally. I am not talking about you. This group is about Obama/McCain/politics. It's a debate forum and so I think that I should be able to have a little freedom of speech in presenting my side without being labeled "racist" for no good reason!

NOW why dont you tell me where i ever said i was racist

"hatred or intolerance of another race or other races."
but i dont i have friends who are othe races i have heros who are. i just like somebody better then an african american. that is NOT racisum
Well you are saying that he willl not be a good president! I personally take that comment as hurtful. If Obama would be on goodreads then you all wouldn't say that to his face!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And on the polls you are always voting him as he is awful and I hat Obama!!!!!!! Think About That!

I didn't say that! He's probably not muslim! Ask Sara Jean or Kathleen! They are the ones that talk about President Obama like a dog! And they a worship the loser mccain!

and no that was nt me or kathleen.
also, i do not hink he is muslim.
also i have NEVER voted him aweful or i hate obama.

Now to clear the air of your false accusations..
*People on this group said that Bush wasn't a good president. I could say that's hurtful. In fact, they said some very mean things. Was that racist?
*This is a debate. If Obama was on this group, I wouldn't say anything different. Why? Because I have been bringing up valid arguments and have said nothing "hateful" against a race or personal individual.
*I have never once voted on those polls saying that I "hate" Obama. I just really, really dislike his politics!
*No, he's not Muslim. He is more Atheistic and Marxist than anything else....
*Lastly, I do NOT worship McCain. There are no men that I would ever "worship". No human is worthy of that.
Yes, I am blowing up because I am upset!

And about your question, I don't really believe that science put man on Earth. I just believe what I was taught in Catholic school as a Kindergartener.
I probably won't say anything bad about you. I never did like you but I am sick of all the racism!