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message 1: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia (spencerafreeman) so... I saw in the rants section that some ppl were talking about this show and I figured I'd make a thread on it. I like the show- I started watching it last season (season 1) reluctantly because my mom watched it after hearing it was by the same ppl who created 7th heaven (which we both loved). At first I thought it was another lame show, but I got really into it, and now I'm hooked!
Since the 2nd season started I definately have different feelings about the characers. For example, I used to think Adrian was just a mean slut, but now they're starting to show another side of her and how she really is smart and just real.
Gracie is up and down for me. Sometimes I really like her genuineness but other times she SO annoying and preachy- I guess it just depends on the day.
As for Ricki- I can't stand the little snot. He is such a player and will say anything to come off as "vulnerable". Ech.
Amy's 2 friends are annoying. I really don't like the girl with the brother- she's such a judgemental hypocrite- especially after kissing ricki!

lol, sorry for going on... but feel free to contribute! :)


message 2: by Janet (new)

Janet I am so hooked too! I am so glad you made a thread. I actually feel the same way you do about most of the characters. I HATE Rikki so much. He is just a little snot that just wants his way. Her two friends are just starting to bug me. They like act like they are mad at her but then try to be her friend. I don't know, they confuse me! Haha.

I still cannot believe they got married!! I am so excited to see what happens with that! Do you think she'll keep the baby or give it up? I can't decide!


message 3: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia (spencerafreeman) Me either! I literally change my mind 5x during the show debating whether she's going to keep it or not.
Im anxious to see tonights episode because from the previews they made it seem like Amy and Ricki start developing feelings for each other which CANNOT happen! I don't care if he is technically the father, I like her and Ben together and he's been so loyal that he deserves her and vice versa.

We'll see!


message 4: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
I adore this show. I've watched it from the beginning.

I really like Grace, even though at times I scratch my head because of her (anyone see her fake id picture session?). It's funny because I would have hated her in high school.

I don't like Ben because he reminds me a lot of my ex. When we first started dating, my ex (who was 2 years younger than me) fell so completely in love and wanted to get married. And I got swept off my feet and it was a totally ridiculous relationship.

I want to like Rikki. I want him to be good. I don't want him to be with Amy, because she gets on my nerves quite a lot. All of the things she takes for granted just rub me the wrong way.

Madison and Lauren have bugged me from the beginning. They are so immature and bad friends to Amy because of their continual gossiping.

I can't wait to see what happens next week. The preview look so good!


message 5: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia (spencerafreeman) Just as I was thinking that maybe Ricki was becoming a good guy for Grace, he cheats shamelessly with Adrian. Ugh! Then acts all goodie goodie- what a jerk!

I want Adrian to realize she doesn't need him...

Next weeks episode does look interesting... can't wait!


message 6: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
I want Adrian to maybe move on to Jack. But he's kind of with Alice. I liked Alice and Henry together because their weirdness was compatible.


message 7: by Janet (new)

Janet I was so mad at Rikki! What a jerk!!! But I am mad at Adrian. She is smarter than that and needs to kick him to the curb! Haha. I want Henry and the sister to be together. (Sorry her name is slipping my mind) I think that would be cute haha.


message 8: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
Ashley. Yeah. That would be kind of cute. But she's only 13 so I don't see it working until she got to high school.


message 9: by Janet (new)

Janet Did everyone watch tonight? I am actually feeling a little sorry for Rikki. I mean that's hard but I still don't think it gives him a HUGE excuse for his actions. It was a good episode overall though!


message 10: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
Has anyone been watching this season?

So far, I've wanted to smack Amy about every time she opens her mouth. Does anyone else remember her parents saying (multiple time even), "This is YOUR baby. YOU are going to have to take care of it." It doesn't appear that the message has sunk in. I understand that taking care of a baby is difficult, but it doesn't really appear to have effected her at all.

I thought the whole Grace thing was a little over the top, but it still broke my heart. And I fell in love with Ricky after what he said to her in the limo. He's definitely changed for the better. I really hope he and Adrian are going to call it quits for good, although I don't think he'll end up with Grace. Maybe after they go to college...


message 11: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia (spencerafreeman) I'm SO with you, Lori.
Amy has fallen off the deep end with her attitude. She really needs a reality check. I though having a baby would make her less spoiled but apparently not.
I loved Ricky for helping Grace as well. He obviously is being responsible and doing well by the baby withOUT complaining.
I really like Adrian- I always have, actually. It looks as if she's going to start respecting herself and stop being slutty, so I hope she sticks to her guns now that her father is back in the picture.
The new episode comes on tonight and I really hope Ben stands up for himself. He's stuck by Amy and she definitely uses it against him with Pisses me off!
We'll see tonight...


message 12: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
Anastasia, I'm not so sure about Adrian. She said her dad was going to find a house for them and then she and Ricky could have their privacy and she mentioned it about a million times. And Ricky said he wanted a commitment last week, but she didn't say anything.

And as for Ben...Yes, it is commendable that he's stuck by Amy through all of this. But he was so unrealistic ("Let's get married, we'll spend our lives together, etc") and I know that that's how some people are at the age, but those are such dangerous words to say! (And maybe my attitude towards him comes from having been with someone like him and then getting burned by him eventually) He still seems unrealistic, but maybe this trip to Bologna will help him get his head on straight.


message 13: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia (spencerafreeman) Very true, Lori. I used to think Ben was too much and too over the top, too. But I think Amy has started to take advantage of his niceness and using it against him (ie- threatening him by using Ricky)... I dunno, they're all messed up if you ask me, haha. Still love the show though.
As for Adrian, I think she WANTS to be good, but is afraid of getting burned. She had been wanting Ricky to want a commitment but when she finally gets it she seems too scared to believe its real, thus using sex.
And yes, I hope Ben goes to Bologna (alone) and gets it together. I wouldn't hate it, actually, if he and Amy broke up.


message 14: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
In one of the previews for the season, Amy says, "Are you breaking up with me?" and she looks like she's about to cry. I'm hoping it's not a teaser and that Ben grows a pair and refuses to be taken advantage of. I think I also saw one where she asks Ben if he's sure he really wants to go to Bologna since Ricky is getting his own apartment. Even the adults are pretty messed up.


message 15: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia (spencerafreeman) Yes! I saw that preview where she threatens him saying Ricky is getting his own apt. That is low. I hope Ben doesn't fall for it, especially since it seems like him and Ricky get along pretty well when Amy isn't around (like at the Butcher shop).
As for the adults, yes they are messed up too. I'm almost sure the mom's baby is George's. I used to think George was a butthole, but he's said some things that has me coming around to liking him. He's a man, that's the only excuse I have for his behavior, lol


Sarah (Mood Reader) (bookworm1887) I love this show a lot as well. I also love each and every one of the characters. They all have grown on me! My boyfriend and I will not miss an episode! We love it!


message 17: by Janet (new)

Janet I agree with all of you!! I hope Ben grows a pair and sticks up to Amy. He needs to go on his trip ALONE and figure out what he wants to do.

Amy needs to figure some things out too but now because she chose to keep the baby she doesn't get the chance of taking a break. She is driving me CRAZY! Why is she being such a butt face? I mean I don't know what I would be like if I were 15 with a baby...but still!

Haha I like how we all write as though this were a true story...or at least I did! Haha :)


message 18: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
Janet, All Amy needs to figure out is that the baby is HER RESPONSIBILITY!!!! She's still acting like nothing should change in her little world: her mom should still take care of her (and now John) despite changes in Ann's life, she shouldn't have to miss out on anything and work is just something to do when it's convenient. Even though I'm all for keeping the family together, Amy was not (and still isn't) ready to take care of a baby.

Ricky is doing a pretty good job, when Amy deems to allow him to spend time with John. I am so happy that he found a place, but I have to wonder how Ben is going to react (not only to Ricky having a place, but the source of it.

Looking forward to Monday night...


message 19: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia (spencerafreeman) I am SO happy Ricky found a place, too! Did you see how he almost cried when Ben's dad gave him the place? Really touching for me, because out of everyone it seems as if he's grown the most.
Amy needs to stop acting like such a brat! I have a feeling Ben will stand up for himself, but it was low for Amy to threaten him using Ricky.
I'm starting to LOVE Amy's dad. I used to think he was a doofus but I've come to love his personality; I can tell he wants to keep his family together, despite not coming clean about his vasectomy.


message 20: by Jamie (The Perpetual Page-Turner), The Founding Bookworm (new)

Jamie (The Perpetual Page-Turner) (perpetualpageturner) | 4407 comments Mod
I just finished the whole first season!! I'm soo into this show!! I just watched the first episode of the second season..Grace's dad died??!


message 21: by Silvia (new)

Silvia (silverware) | 436 comments Yeah he dies!!! I actually like Ricky's character. Its Ben that drives me crazy!!!!!!! I find him so annoying!!! I get annoyed when he refers to the baby as "our son". He needs a reality check! But I have a feeling something happened during this summer! GAH!


message 22: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
Grace's dad dying totally freaked the shit out of me. I was depressed for days. It changed my attitude.

Ben drives me crazy too. And Amy. I can't count how many times I want to hit her as well. Adrian has been rubbing me the wrong way lately as well. It really bothers me the way she and Ricky are conducting their relationship or whatever you want to call it. Amy might be acting like she knows everything because she's a mom...but Adrian sure acts a bit big for her britches too.


message 23: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
Sorry...I've gotten really into this show.


message 24: by Silvia (new)

Silvia (silverware) | 436 comments Haha! I agree Amy drives me nuts too!!! Its okay that you're into it because I am too! I find Arianne's character funny so she doesne bother me much....oh and the two best friends that gossip to everyone drive me crazy too! I dont understand how so many characters can annoy me but I love the show a lot! I cant wait for Monday!!!

On a sidenote does anyone watch make it or break it?


message 25: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
Silvia, It's gotten really over the top this season and I almost want to stop watching it...but it's like crack and I just can't stop! I always dread the scenes with Madison and Lauren in them because they're so...immature and annoying. I really don't like that Adrian's family is moving because it's going to cause ridiculous problems...but I guess that's the point, right?


message 26: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (literaryomnoms) I love the show, but it really seems that in the second season this year, EVERYONE is having sex and it is almost a joke when they have the ads during commercials that say "Teens, talk to your parents, wait, yadda yadda". No one on the show is waiting, I thought the show would do a good job promoting abstinence by scaring teens into realizing how much a teenage pregnancy screws up your life, but instead it shows everyone having sex and getting pregnant, teen and adult.

I still love the show though, I just think it's not doing what it could to get through to teens, it may be making things worse.


message 27: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
Michelle, I kind of agree with you. Last night there was the opportunity for Grace to be a big proponent of "See, it can mess up your life" but then it became a joke. I'm glad that Ricky and Adrian are going to see other people, but if the previews are accurate, seriously? Amy's sister? It's like Desperate Housewives but for a younger audience.


message 28: by Silvia (new)

Silvia (silverware) | 436 comments Wow Michelle you brought up a really good point. It doesn't seem like the show is truly exemplifying abstinence, especially at such a young age. Except for her immature temper tantrums it seems like Amy has had it quite easy. She has a house, understanding parents, a boyfriend that didn't dump her when she's pregnant with someone else's baby (Real realistic)and she seems to be quite welcomed by the whole community whereas I would expect most people to avoid her or look down upon her.


message 29: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
Silvia, That's a good point.

Amy has developed such an entitled attitude, in my opinion. She deserved the garage because she has a baby? She's getting a new SUV because she has a baby? She doesn't seem to get, and no one seems to be reminding her very well, that a baby means sacrificing. A lot. The show has moments of realism, but moments of absurd melodrama. I'd say this was a pretty good episode. Personally, I was a little surprised that Grace had such bad cramps even though she was on the pill (or did she go off?). I'm glad that it looks like Adrian and Ricky are going to stay apart and hopefully it will last for longer than a few episodes.


message 30: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (literaryomnoms) I was also surprised about the severity of Grace's cramps, but I didn't give it too much thought. I wonder now though- maybe she went off the pill and she intends to get pregnant! She might be feeling that her family is falling apart and want to start her own. I know a lot of teenage mothers want the baby so they have something that loves them unconditionally.

I wish we saw more of the baby, John. We hear all about him but I can't even remember the last time we saw him.

Is anyone else slightly annoyed by Grace's brother? He has such an attitude all of a sudden and is so NOSY!


message 31: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
Michelle, Yeah! Tom and Tammy are really getting on my nerves. They're so rude. Like when they started booing while Grace was trying to give her presentation?! I think Tammy has been a bad influence on him.

I don't think that's Grace's aim because I think it would really derail her life plan or at least cause a major hiccup before it gets back on track. I do imagine that she and Jack will have sex again, probably next week.

It's been a while since we've seen John, but he doesn't really do anything yet. Maybe when he's like 2 or 3 and can do and say things he'll be more important.


message 32: by Jamie (The Perpetual Page-Turner), The Founding Bookworm (new)

Jamie (The Perpetual Page-Turner) (perpetualpageturner) | 4407 comments Mod
I'm finally all caught up! Pretty much all of the characters on the show have been annoying me lately! Amy is soo annoying and whiny..thinking she gets everything! I mean..I'm glad to see that she saw how good she had it compared to the other pregnant girl..but that stuck for what..a whole minute? lol

And what is with Ben and his mystery woman from Italy?? I'm so sad that he cheated on her..or so it seems.

I can't wait for the finale! I'll have to watch it online because I have work though :(


message 33: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
Part of me is glad the finale is tomorrow because I need a break from high school drama. But I know I'll be suffering withdrawal pains.


message 34: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia (spencerafreeman) Haha, I'm with you, Lori. I love the show, but it's getting to be over the top and I can't stop watching! Therefore, with it being off, I'll be broken of the curse and temptation to watch it.
My thoughts (though many have said the same thing):
Amy is a spoiled, whiny, brat! You had a baby! Since when does that make you entitiled?
I love her sister Ashley. She's one of the few characters who has their head on straight. I also am liking Ricky a lot. People are giving him grief still, even though HE's the one who's taking responsibility and growing up
I'm sort of glad Ben found someone else. Regardless of if he really cheated or not, Amy has taken him for granted and it's good to see him finally figuring out what makes him happy. Amy deserves to be alone to see how she's been mistreating people

Let's see how things end tomorrow...


message 35: by Jamie (The Perpetual Page-Turner), The Founding Bookworm (new)

Jamie (The Perpetual Page-Turner) (perpetualpageturner) | 4407 comments Mod
I agree. Ben deserves better..except I'd be disappointed if he cheated. I hate cheaters. lol. I'd lose respect for any good guy who cheated. If you want someone else..break up with the person you are with! haha


message 36: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
I'm not so sure that Ben cheated. I imagine he had an "affair of the heart" with some Italian chick. It sucks when it happens, but Amy has been taken him for granted.

Anyone see the preview for tomorrow? I heard Adrian say, "If she leaves, she leaves." I wonder if that means Amy is planning on going to live with Mimsy or something. I'll be agonizing until the next season starts in January or so. It's such a damn frustrating show, but I just can't break the habit! I've been with these guys from the beginning and I just can't abandon them.


message 37: by Michelle (new)

Michelle (literaryomnoms) New season coming in January! The last episode was a bit less eventful than I imagined. Notice how they give quotes in the previews, like "If she leaves she leaves" and "I need to make some changes. I just can't go on like this." that actually don't have a huge effect on the outcome of the show. It was good though, and despite my annoyance with many of the characters lately, I can't wait for more!


message 38: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
I know what you mean! The episode was less ridiculous than other recent episodes have been (although the Madison [that's the redhead blabbermouth, right?:] situation and the therapy were a bit heavy handed, in my opinion). And, of course, despite my questioning whether I really wanted to watch from week to week, now that it's over until January I'm craving an episode. On the other hand, I have way too much going on this fall, so it will be good to get my Monday nights back.


message 39: by Silvia (new)

Silvia (silverware) | 436 comments Tell me what you guys think!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPDamd...

:O


message 40: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
I'm betting the "I"m begging you, please don't" has nothing to do with what Ben says.


message 41: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia (spencerafreeman) I'm with you, Lori. They always make the dramatic parts in previews seem more heavy than they actually are.
I was a bit disappointed with the finale- nothing was left hanging on a cliff, like most. It just seemed like another middle-season episode.
While I'm eager to see the new season in January, I'm relieved it's over now so now I don't feel obligated to blow off my homework to watch it... haha!


message 42: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Thomas | 2 comments Well I have to say that I have watched secret life since the beginning also. I can't stand just about everyone on the show except ashley and ashley's gay friend griffin.
Amy is all me, me, me.
Ricki-is all my way or no way.
Adrian- Wants ricki and can't understand that ricki has issues that he needs to work out on his own. Grace- Just needs to be someone else, she is so annoying either be with Jack or don't.
Jack-I love him, he wants to put up with grace no matter what she is says to him.
Ben- Gosh he is needy.
Amy's friends-I couldn't stand them from the moment that Amy told them she was prego.


message 43: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
Ryan, I always cringe whenever I see Madison and Lauren come into the frame because I know they're going to say something stupid and annoying and immature.


message 44: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
Secret Life starts up again tomorrow. I must say I've missed my trashy teen melodrama these past months. I haven't missed Madison and Lauren though and from the sneak peek, I know they're in the episode.

Anyone have any hopes for the season? Or thoughts on the sneak peeks?


message 45: by Jamie (The Perpetual Page-Turner), The Founding Bookworm (new)

Jamie (The Perpetual Page-Turner) (perpetualpageturner) | 4407 comments Mod
I'm so excited!! :)


message 46: by Jamie (The Perpetual Page-Turner), The Founding Bookworm (new)

Jamie (The Perpetual Page-Turner) (perpetualpageturner) | 4407 comments Mod
This premiere left something to be desired..

One of the worst season premieres I've seen in a while. I mean, I got my fix but it was kind of lame and boring.


message 47: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
I think it had to set things up for the season, rather than actually providing any real action.


message 48: by Jamie (The Perpetual Page-Turner), The Founding Bookworm (new)

Jamie (The Perpetual Page-Turner) (perpetualpageturner) | 4407 comments Mod
It's getting better! lol but the whole Just Say Me thing cracks me up!


message 49: by Lori, The Over-Caffeinated Coffee Girl (new)

Lori Walker | 2109 comments Mod
I missed this week's episode. I'll have to watch it on the internet. I'm getting to the same place I got last season where I somewhat resented having a show to watch at a specific time each week. I still like the show though (well, I hate the same characters).


message 50: by Silvia (new)

Silvia (silverware) | 436 comments Amanda I am the same way!!!! Thank you internet! LOL


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