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message 1: by [deleted user] (new)

LOL no. I don't hate the movie. I know the title of this discussion is misleading.

It's just that I've read a lot of reviews on the movie recently by people who are completely devoted to the books. They really dislike the liberties that the movie took. So I was going to put up this conversation as a kind of a poll.

What was different about the film (as opposed to the book) that upset you the most:

1. Susan/Caspian (the whole romance thing)
2. Plot changes (like, the time of the sounding of the horn, the door in the air, etc)
3. Caspian's age (he was supposed to be 13, and he was 27)
4. Characters' personality changes (Peter all prideful for example)
5. Anything else you can think of (nothing off the top of my head right now)

Or if you really think the movie was incredible feel free to say so!

(I'll point out right now that I think Trumpkin was SO MUCH BETTER in the movie than he was in the book. But like I said, this is just everyone's opinions, so go ahead and object if you'd like. I'd love to see your view)

message 2: by [deleted user] (new)

Well, (about the Caspian thing) what I meant was that the actor that played him was 27. Some people were hoping for a younger actor.

And yes, you brought up a good point with Trumpkin. I didn't even think of that.

message 3: by Karina (new)

Karina his name is Ben Barnes. Sorry just had to say, i used to have a crush on him, but i'm over that now.

message 4: by Karina (new)

Karina yeah. his spanish accent was a little wierd, but maybe it was just me since i've never actually heard a spanish/ or heard to many spanish accents.

message 5: by Karina (new)

Karina yeah...i'm spanish so i don't really hear the accents.

message 6: by [deleted user] (new)

Well, he did a very good job acting. (better than I had expected) and he did much better than most actors at keeping up an accent. Once or twice he slipped (like when he said, "no thanks" just for example.) But it wasn't so much so that I noticed it, until like, the fourth time I watched it. He also seemed to take his role very seriously, which I appreciated.

message 7: by [deleted user] (new)

Were any of you upset about Susan and Caspian liking each other? I actually wasn't so upset. What with all the rumors floating around beforehand I thought Caspian and Susan were going to be full-fledged out of control passionate! But even the kiss at the end wasn't 'eat-your-tongue'. So I personally wasn't as mad at it as others. Your opinions?

message 8: by Karina (new)

Karina i sort of liked it. i know its not whats in the book, but i think it was pretty good for the movie. yeah and i' mglad it wasn't the 'eat-your-tounge' kind. Pretty happy with the song though. I loved the call.

message 9: by [deleted user] (new)

Yeah, the song was great. That's what lots of people are saying.

message 10: by Melissa (new)

Melissa (mkloempken) The part of the movie I didn't enjoy was when they "raided" the castle...

message 11: by [deleted user] (new)

What particularly about it? Did you not like how they changed the plot, or the violence, or how it added to Caspian's and Peter's conflict, or something else?

message 12: by Melissa (new)

Melissa (mkloempken) I didn't like how they added that portion to the movie, when it is made clear in the book that once the Old Narnians reach the hill of the Stone Table, they don't go anywhere else.

message 13: by Jaime Lynn (new)

Jaime Lynn (jmelynnou) I loved the movie but the accents were so cheesy. Especially Caspian's.

message 14: by Melissa (new)

Melissa (mkloempken) I enjoyed the accents as well, and personally thought they were well done. I mean, sometimes an actor can really mess up an accent, or make it so obvious that you know it is fake.

message 15: by Karina (new)

Karina they were okays...i like that well sort of...

message 16: by [deleted user] (new)

one thing about the plot change that I think was smart for them to change, was having the Pevensies meet Caspian sooner. I mean, in the book, the girls don't even meet him until the whole battle is over! (that was obviously because C.S. Lewis never intended for Lucy and Susan to be violent and fighting with the boys. But that's a completely different discussion...) I think it was smart to have them come in sooner so that you build their's and Caspian's relaionships to each other. It's also very good movie-wise: keeping the audience's attention, putting in dramatics, cutting back and forth, etc.

message 17: by Karina (new)

Karina that's true. it was awfully boring reading about them not being with caspian. i really didn't enjoy the book very well either.....I think they portrayed Peter's hardship of going back very good.

message 18: by [deleted user] (new)

That's probably why a lot of the fans thought the movie was much better.

message 19: by Karina (new)

Karina I know I did.

message 20: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer Tse (jennifertse10) Definitely the whole romance thing! Can't Hollywood make a movie without romance?! Aslan is loving enough! Since I saw the movie before reading the book, I even thought the romance is in the book. However, after reading the book, the whole romance notion of some creepy guy following Susan in the beginning near the train station & Susan initially the kiss with Caspian is too much.

message 21: by [deleted user] (new)

i think its cute i luv romance!!!

message 22: by Meredith (new)

Meredith :) So do I, but that was just going over the lines!!!!!!

message 23: by Karina (new)

Karina Which boy?

message 24: by Karina (new)

Karina Oh! I remember the guy who was talking to Susan?

message 25: by Karina (new)

Karina i think it was just to show how susan was a loner, and give a scene so that lucy can show up to tell about the fight.

message 26: by Karina (new)

Karina I know! I felt a bit sorry for the boy though, so nieve.

message 27: by Karina (new)

Karina he was so nice, and weird looking!

message 28: by Karina (new)

Karina really? that's cool.

message 29: by [deleted user] (new)

Yeah I agree with Alexsandra on the whole Caspian/Susan love thing. I mean in the Voyage of the Dawn Treader Caspian is suppose to fall in love with this star girl (half star). I really liked Caspian but he was just too old. I did love the battle scenes in the movie and I almost cried when all those Narnians died! :(

message 30: by Karina (new)

Karina I know! Wasn't that sad?!

message 31: by [deleted user] (new)

I think Caspian should have been younger. But i love the whole Susan/Caspian thing. I dont like the books that much, but I loved the movies.

message 32: by Meredith (new)

Meredith Really? I like the movies a whole lot better!

message 33: by [deleted user] (new)

I think the movies were a whole lot more exciting, and as a general rule I tend to like movies better than books.

But there's just something that doesn't carry over from books-to-movies transitions. The wording, or the personal application. I dunno.

message 34: by Katie (new)

Katie Leach  (3LilMissCraftyness3) | 1 comments hey. well the movi was a whole lot different then the book was.

message 35: by Meredith (new)

Meredith Agreed!

message 36: by Marsia (new)

Marsia | 4 comments i havent read the book yet soo idk but i loved the movie!!!!

message 37: by Nasia (new)

Nasia (nasiah) | 3 comments I thought the accent was a good thing. The Telmarines are a different people than the narnians so it makes since that they would talk slightly differently. Although it was sorta weird that it sounded a tad spanish. I think that if they would of kept it closer to the book w/ the whole "kids being w/ caspian sooner" thing then it would have been kinda boring. for a movie, anyway. A lot of the book is the 4 kings and queens getting there and caspian fighting the battle alone w/ just his army. And, as much as I am totally in love w/ the books, it's better for a movie if it's not like that. The book isn't bad being like that, but I think it would of gotten pretty old if it was like that in the movie. I know some people liked the caspian/suzan thing but I personally did NOT. I also think it was a mistake for the people who made it because then the fans of the relationship might not like that caspian gets w/ a new girl in the Voyage of the Dawn Treader. And they better keep that part in there! because I really like the caspian/star daughter thing. and I wonder if they'll actually give her a name?! haha Anyway. i know that was a lot,(sorry!) but that's just my thoughts on the subject. :-D

message 38: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth (elizabethnovak) OMGosh the whole romance thing with Susan and Caspian was like soooooo bad. Their having him turn right around and fall in love with Ramandu's daughter in Voyage of the Dawntreader.

message 39: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth (elizabethnovak) Nasia wrote: "I thought the accent was a good thing. The Telmarines are a different people than the narnians so it makes since that they would talk slightly differently. Although it was sorta weird that it sound..."

It's kinda weird that their going to just have him drop the accent in VOTD.

message 40: by Hannah (new)

Hannah (hannahh) | 3 comments I think the worst thing was number 4. Peter's change in character was horrible! In the book both Peter and Caspian are very humble.

message 41: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth (elizabethnovak) Yeah, that was pretty bad.

message 42: by [deleted user] (last edited Dec 07, 2010 08:12PM) (new)

his beard. i didnt like it, even though it was to make him look like he aged, i still didnt like it. i liked his hair though, hopefully it's like that when, he plays dimitri in vampire academy...

and also susan/caspians romance. they should have stayed together. him falling for Ramandu's daughter.ugh

Queen Susan the Gentle (highqueensusanofcairparavel) | 41 comments Mod
I hated how Peter was acting all stubborn and prideful. I mean he was a total jerk in Prince Caspian! After the whole attack on the castle and all, I think he was too stubborn to admit it was his falt. All he did was blame Caspian. :P

message 44: by Laura (last edited Dec 10, 2010 06:10PM) (new)

Laura | 2 comments The worst part in the (Prince Caspian) movie (in my opinion, I know y'all may not agree about this part xD) was when they made Susan and Caspian kiss. It just wasn't necessary - it wasn't even in the book.

One of the worst lines in the movie too was (at the end near the kissing scenes) "It would never have worked out between us - I'm 1300 years older than you" - cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesy. Lol, sorry :D :D :D

Other than that . . . ugh, I dunno. The second movie really wasn't, like, amazing.

Ha ha, I have to say another derogatory thing about it - I like how when Susan is hanging off that boulder or whatever; how Peter and Caspian just look at each other and then watch Susan hang there. It's like, "Yo, you wanna, maybe, oh, I dunno, DO something to help her?!?!?!??!?"

Ha ha, I don't hate the second movie or something - I'm just remarking on some of the dumb stuff in it :P

The third movie, "Voyage of the Dawn Treader", (which I just saw tonight) was pretty good though! I won't, however, get into it coz I don't wanna give stuff away xD

message 45: by Elizabeth (last edited Dec 11, 2010 09:19PM) (new)

Elizabeth (elizabethnovak) Totally with you Raven. If they had to put romance in it should have been in the VOTDT between Caspian and Ramandu's daughter. But instead the most romanctice words in the movie are "I hope I'll see you again."

One of the dumb parts (I think) in Prince Caspian (the movie) is when Susan just killed all those guys with her bow, and then along comes Caspian kills one guy knocks her down with his horse (ever notice that it was Caspian horse that knocked her down?) and saves the day. After Susan just killed all those guys, he is like such a hero. *Rolls eyes*

message 46: by Laura (new)

Laura | 2 comments ~It Just Takes One~ (Elizabeth) wrote: "Totally with you Raven. If they had to put romance in it should have been in the VOTDT between Caspian and Ramandu's daughter. But instead the most romanctice words in the movie are "I hope I'll se..."

Ha ha ha ha ha sooooooooooo with you on that stuff, Elizabeth! In the old "Voyage of the Dawn Treader" I'm pretty sure Caspian and the Ramandu's daughter got married, didn't they?!

Urg. But still, the new director for "Voyage of the Dawn Treader" did a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better job than the dude that did Caspian. Eek.

message 47: by Elizabeth (new)

Elizabeth (elizabethnovak) Yeah, Caspian and Ramandu's daughter did get married.

That's another thing Ramandu was like nonexistent in VOTDT the movie.

message 48: by Amalie (last edited Dec 11, 2010 10:36PM) (new)

Amalie I'm pretty sure, Andrew Adamson, instead of reading the book, must have slept on it, or may be he simply threw the book out of the window. I mean, seriously, come on!!!

Alexandra, you have justly listed my saddest moments in the movie really well. For me after
1. Susan/Caspian (the whole romance thing) it's,

4. Characters' personality changes

The character of Peter was so changed that makes me wonder what exactly he learned from Narnia that he will not be allowed to return.

also even worse, they turned Caspian into a vengeful man who jeopardized a mission to attempt to avenge his father's death. As a Narnia book series fan, this was a major disappointment :( :(

I'm glad Caspian's accent has improved in 'The Voyage of the Dawn Treader'

message 49: by Hayley (new)

Hayley Well I can't decide what a bad thing from the movie is, but I will have to say how Susan and Caspian didn't end up together

message 50: by Riley (new)

Riley (DawnFire108) | 7 comments I really cant complain. I liked the movie, but I also dont care how book accurate it is...

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