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carl wrote: "Ah, ok Dj , onward then !"Since the Divorce I have rebuilt my WWII library and now have more books on my shelf on the topic than some small libraries. It is kind of nice. But you can never have to many books. LOL.
Dj wrote: "carl wrote: "Ah, ok Dj , onward then !"Since the Divorce I have rebuilt my WWII library and now have more books on my shelf on the topic than some small libraries. It is kind of nice. But you can..."
AMEN...so true. Never enough. LOL
Dj wrote: "Sito wrote: "At the end i bought Drama between Budapest and Viena...my wife is gonna kill me!"I hear that there are in face a few marriages that end in that fashion. Mine settled for a divorce an..."
Marry a WAC re-enactor ? Or not, she'd take half the library...
Sito wrote: "Dj wrote: "carl wrote: "Ah, ok Dj , onward then !But you can never have to many books. "
AMEN...so true. Never enough. LOL."
Mmmm, seem to have heard that somewhere before, AR, GV, can you all remind me ?
'Aussie Rick' wrote: ""You can never have too many books" is my family motto!"At least one side of the family. In my family it is only my motto, the rest of the family not to big on reading. But hey, that just means more for me. When it comes to books, I am kind of like a Dragon. The Horde most be bigger so I can nap more easily. LOL
Dj wrote: " When it comes to books, I am kind of like a Dragon. The Horde most be bigger so I can nap more easily..."I like that image Dj! I am Smaug, in my lair, I know where every tome is and will know if one goes missing....
Mike wrote: "Dj wrote: " When it comes to books, I am kind of like a Dragon. The Horde most be bigger so I can nap more easily..."I like that image Dj! I am Smaug, in my lair, I know where every tome is and w..."
I love that image. I just have to change the Dragon name. After all the Dragon in the image I use is from the Online Comic I write. His name is...Vercingetorix. I think they gave me extra points for using a historical reference for the name. LOL
One of our members, Rejeev, is asking for some assistance:"Could anybody please suggest few good books on Military Strategies in ww2?"
Rejeev, I'm not too sure if this will help in your search for information on military strategy:
World War 2 BOX SET #11: WW2 Battlefield Tactics & Strategies + WW2 Technologies by Ryan Jenkins
World War 2 Strategies: The Extraordinary Battlefield Strategies of WWII by Ryan Jenkins
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Heinz GuderianRejeev, I am not sure exactly what you want in the way of strategy reading but I believe this book actually outlines many of the tactics that were used by the German Panzer Units in WW2.
A good recommendation Michael along with Lost Victories by Erich von Manstein.
Lost Victories: The War Memoirs of Hilter's Most Brilliant General by Erich von Manstein
@MichaelI am currently reading Engineers of Victory which is on military strategy. However that is too high level. I was thinking of other books on similar lines but may be more low level strategies.
What about some of the Osprey series books on WW2 tactics:
World War II Infantry Tactics (2): Company and Battalion by Stephen Bull(there is a number of books in this series - armour, artillery, assault pioneers, etc.)
Second World War Infantry Tactics: The European Theatre by Stephen BullOr maybe this book:
On the German Art of War: Truppenfuhrung: German Army Manual for Unit Command in World War II by Bruce Condell
Rejeev wrote: "@MichaelI am currently reading Engineers of Victory which is on military strategy. However that is too high level. I was thinking of other books on similar lines but may be more low level strateg..."
I just picked up a used copy of Engineers of Victory not too long ago. I am looking forward to reading it.
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Michael,On similar themes as "Engineers of Victory," I recommend "Blackett's War", by Stephen Budiansky. Not 100 percent overlap but better written.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2...This book is dedicated to the US Strategy in the Pacific in 42 and 43. If this is what you like it is a good book but I prefer Lundstrom's the 1st Team much better. I just find books dedicated to strategy a little boring.
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Your welcome Geevee. Just to clarify, the author of the strategy book is John Lundstrom. He also wrote the First Team which is about the Naval Aviators in the Pacific. Part I covers the carrier based aviators from just prior to Pearl Harbor through Midway. Part II covers the Naval aviators during the Guadalcanal campaign. These books are extremely detailed but are must reads. I ordered the strategy book by mistake. It is a quick read and very good. Just not as fun as the First Team series.
William,Have you read Lundstrum's "First South Pacific Campaign"? I believe it was his M/A thesis originally before the Naval Institute published it. Lundstrum's level of detail is amazing. I'm anxious to read his book on Fletcher, and I think he's written a Civil War unit history recently as well.
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Howdy Doreen, Amazingly enough I've got a buddy whose father was also on the USS Block Island when it was torpedoed. He did say he has books about it, I'll check with him.Doreen wrote: "I am looking for a book or books on the Rhineland campaign that my dad was involved in. Also any on the USS Block Island that my grandfather served on in the Atlantic before it was torpedoed or in ..."
I am looking for a really UNBIASED AND BALANCED book about WWII. Just got the Beevor's "Second War" and I must tell you that Im slightly disappointed. Passed 15% of the book and I have the impressions that: all japs are rapists, all french are crying babies, Hitler is an overgrown fool child and the english are the only astutes and who can think and take the correct decisions. Its a shame, cause is a book with a lot of useful information but I simply feel demotivated to go on with it.I has some problems on this issue also with highly praised Max Hastings, on the first pages I had the impression he was taking sides rather than telling history. Same (a little less tho) with Ian Kershaw.
Mind you, I dont want to have this random book by an obscure historian who says Hitler loved peace and the worldwide jewry forced him to war. But after years reading other subjects (mostly politics and law), when I resumed my interest on WWII I just found that authors that I idolized as a teenager showed a lot of emotions on their work that could affect their judgement about the facts they needed to tell. That is the point: I want a solid and balanced (cold? pragmatic?)) book about world war (general, eastern front, the reich itself) with more facts than judgements, more History than hollywood, more sources than opinions. Can you recommend me one? Thanks in advance
Thiago wrote: "I am looking for a really UNBIASED AND BALANCED book about WWII. Just got the Beevor's "Second War" and I must tell you that Im slightly disappointed. Passed 15% of the book and I have the impressi..."
I enjoyed this as a one volume history of the war.
Thank you DJ. After I saw your tip I went further to look for its reviews. In the very first at Amazon.com one I found this:"Weinberg believes in a form of historical writing that downplays the role of individuals. Roosevelt, Hitler, Stalin, Rommel, Churchill, Mussolini, Chang Kai Shek, Hirohito are all in attendance, but their personalities, their quirks, and their habits , hardly enter into the story. Instead, these men represent movements, states, ideologies, etc. Weinberg never uses direct, pithy quotes. That takes something out, compared to other popular history."
I couldnt agree more. I think it will be exactly my cup of tea. Going to order it now. Thanks again.
I am almost finished with the Weinberg book and highly recommend it. The author's voice is still there, without excessive editorializing. Thiago wrote: "Thank you DJ. After I saw your tip I went further to look for its reviews. In the very first at Amazon.com one I found this:
"Weinberg believes in a form of historical writing that downplays the r..."
Hmmm, I better go dig out my unread copy and move it a bit closer to the top of the to read pile by the sounds of it :)
Only if you have a lot of free time on your hands. It's over 1000 pages with bibliography, notes, etc., which are as interesting as the text itself!'Aussie Rick' wrote: "Hmmm, I better go dig out my unread copy and move it a bit closer to the top of the to read pile by the sounds of it :)"
Thiago wrote: "I am looking for a really UNBIASED AND BALANCED book about WWII. Just got the Beevor's "Second War" and I must tell you that Im slightly disappointed. Passed 15% of the book and I have the impressi..."As the author of a pretty well received book on a WWII figure, I can tell you that it is extremely difficult to be entirely unbiased. I think it is even more difficult when the writer tries such a broad sweep. I haven't read Beevor's book yet, but you might be interested in a response to the NY TIMES review of it, which I just posted on the Theme Read thread.
Thiago wrote: "I am looking for a really UNBIASED AND BALANCED book about WWII. Just got the Beevor's "Second War" and I must tell you that Im slightly disappointed. Passed 15% of the book and I have the impressi..."Check out Rick Atkinson's trilogy on WWII. This work does not lionize anyone. I highly recommend this Trilogy. All the icons of WWII are reduced to the humans that they were. Men that I idolized from childhood had their moments - both good and bad. Churchill, Eisenhower, Patton, Clark, Monty, de Gaulle and so many others. The first book is Army at Dawn about the invasion of North Africa, followed by the Day of Battle about the Italian campaign, and ending with the Guns of Last Light which covers D-Day through VE day.
John wrote: "William,Have you read Lundstrum's "First South Pacific Campaign"? I believe it was his M/A thesis originally before the Naval Institute published it. Lundstrum's level of detail is amazing. I'm a..."
John wrote: "William,
Have you read Lundstrum's "First South Pacific Campaign"? I believe it was his M/A thesis originally before the Naval Institute published it. Lundstrum's level of detail is amazing. I'm a..."
Yes. I ordered it by mistake and so I read it. I reviewed it right here. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2.... Thanks for the anecdote. I did not realize this was his thesis. I am glad Ir ead it but I was looking forward to the First Team part II - the Guadalcanal Campaign.
Pamela wrote: "I am almost finished with the Weinberg book and highly recommend it. The author's voice is still there, without I have heard good things about Weinberg and he is known for being good at covering "the big picture ". I've just received Hitler's Foreign Policy: The Road to World War II 1933-1939 which I'm looking forward to - considered one of the definitive works.
I'm almost finished Beevor's book and will be giving it a very good review. It has great prose, and is really well researched and organised. I think the book would be too dry without opinion, and Beevor does base them on facts rather than blind prejudice. You'll find he has plenty of criticism of British leadership and certain military commanders later in the book. There are a few other options though, although for English readers like myself most of the general histories seem to be written by Brits who inevitability have a different perspective to, for example, an Indian historian.
Gerhard Weinberg and I had a few chats when I was picking his brain during my grad school days, amazing intellect, like Russel Weigley my late mentor.
Michal wrote: "Looking for some book about invasion of Poland. Any suggestions?"Michal: I thought this was thorough and complete for the Polish perspective on the entire war:
The Eagle Unbowed: Poland and the Poles in the Second World War by Halik Kochanski
Cool ! I am just in awe of him after reading his book.Colin wrote: "Gerhard Weinberg and I had a few chats when I was picking his brain during my grad school days, amazing intellect, like Russel Weigley my late mentor."
Michal wrote: "Looking for some book about invasion of Poland. Any suggestions?"Michal wrote: "Looking for some book about invasion of Poland. Any suggestions?"
http://www.amazon.com/Polish-Campaign...
You might try the book attached to the link. It is one of the best and most balanced I have ever read.
Michal: Dj mentioned Steven Zaloga. I read his book from the Osprey Campaign series (#107) on the 1939 fighting. It was good, but cursory -- only 96 pages:
Poland 1939: The Birth Of Blitzkrieg
Manray9 wrote: "Michal: Dj mentioned Steven Zaloga. I read his book from the Osprey Campaign series (#107) on the 1939 fighting. It was good, but cursory -- only 96 pages:Poland 1939: The Birth Of Blitzkrieg
what really bugged me was his acknowledged scarsity of English-language works on the Polish campaigns. Even a bad Osprey can point in the right direction. Zaloga's one of their best stock writers atm tough.
Michal wrote: "Looking for some book about invasion of Poland. Any suggestions?"I will echo the Eagle Unbowed recommendation. I haven't read the Osprey books, but Zaloga & Madej have solid reputations.
Michal wrote: "Looking for some book about invasion of Poland. Any suggestions?"Blitzkrieg Unleashed by Michael Hargreaves.
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You could try this one as well Michal:
Blitzkrieg Unleashed: The German Invasion of Poland 1939 by Richard Hargreaves
Some excellent recommendations folks, thanks for helping Michal out. Here is one more title to consider:
Poland Betrayed: The Nazi-Soviet Invasions of 1939 by David G. Williamson
Anyone suggest a good warts and all bio of Field Marshall Montgomery. Just finished Ardennes by Beevor and that and a number of other recently read books criticise Montgomery over his ego and lack of emotional intelligence. Complex character and would like to dig deeper. Any suggested books greatly appreciated. Alex
Good request Alex. I have not read a stand alone biography on Monty but have had my eyes on this detailed book for some time:
Monty: Master Of The Battlefield, 1942 1944 by Nigel HamiltonThis is the middle volume of a three volume set. I also have a unread copy of this book:
The Lonely Leader: Monty: 1944-1945 by Alistair Horne
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