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message 1: by Sophie (new)

Sophie | 1458 comments So, I was wondering who suspected Wickham first time they read/watched p and p and who didn't?
I don't think I did and then i was unsure and had an inkling next book , which was sense as sensibility but by Emma, and Churchill, I knew something would happen as I knew Austen's way by then ;)
So..?? What did others think? About any baddies for that matter!??


message 2: by J. (new)

J. Rubino (jrubino) | 200 comments I read a book about predatory behavior and one red flag the writer brought up was trying to accelerate a sense of intimacy by sharing a lot of personal information very early in an acquaintance. When you look back at the first long conversation Elizabeth has with Wickham at the Phillipses, you see that he first asks whether Darcy is well liked, and once he understands that Darcy is not liked, he pours out his whole history. In retrospect, Elizabeth does concede how inappropriate this was for him to share so much with a relative stranger.

message 3: by Sophie (new)

Sophie | 1458 comments So you weren't taken in by any of them!?
And I know! Now when I watch it I'm just sitting there thinking why are saying all this you've just met her!! I mean!! Who does that!! And he then tells
His history to everyone else after Darcy gone even though he said he couldn't till he can forget Darcy's father - grrr!!!

message 4: by Leonora (new)

Leonora Marie (leonoramarie) Hmm. I think I watched the BBC series of P&P with my mother for the first time when I was 5 years old, so I've always known that Wickham was evil, and I really don't think I thought that much about his behavior when I was that age ;)
However, now that I look back at Wickham's behaviour, I would have to agree with J. There are so some serious red flags in the way that Wickham acts towards Elizabeth. Telling her that much about his dark past just after meeting her? Weird. And sharing that story with EVERYONE? Also weird.
Dropping Elizabeth for Mary King wasn't a nice thing to do either, and after Mary King left him it was also strange how he came crawling back to the Bennets. If you think about it, he is definitely a creepy character, but he is so charming that I can understand how the Bennets never saw it coming :)

message 5: by Sophie (new)

Sophie | 1458 comments Yeah I agree and found that one second watch of the story I saw all the 'hang on that's now right' moments suggesting a dodgy character....

message 6: by Leonora (new)

Leonora Marie (leonoramarie) Exactly! But I can't blame Lizzie for being charmed by him. He seems like such a nice person!

message 7: by Charity (new)

Charity U (narnianatheart) | 37 comments I watched P&P for the first time when I was 10, I believe, and read the book by age 12. I'm now several years older than I was then, and can't recall. :( Watched the movie ('95) all in pieces, so. :)

Samantha McNulty I didn't suspect Wickham first time around. I was so shocked when his background came to light!

message 9: by Sophie (new)

Sophie | 1458 comments Sounds quite similar for me Charity ...

'I didn't suspect Wickham first time around. I was so shocked when his background came to light! '
Nice that someone didn't suspect and its just shows how amazing JA's writting is :)

message 10: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) | 162 comments I thought he's very charming which can be used in the wrong way and he did that with Lydia and Lydia was flattered to have such a charming and dashing beau such as he and so when they eloped, it wasn't much of a shock to me when they did because you know, Lydia couldn't have been like Jane and refused his offer of marriage.

message 11: by Sophie (new)

Sophie | 1458 comments interesting point Catherine thanks :)
yes Lydia is not like Jane!!!

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