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Cranfor, North & South, or Wives & Daughters?

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message 1: by Caity (new)

Caity | 11 comments I don't think I could ever pick a favorite of these three; I like how North & South has lots of character depth and is just amazing in every way; Cranford is HILARIOUS and I love the characters/plot; and Wives and Daughers is just wonderful.
How about you?


message 2: by Nicole (new)

Nicole | 5 comments oooh! I can only narrow it down to either N&S or Cranford. Not much of a "narrowing down", I know, but...


message 3: by Caity (new)

Caity | 11 comments yea, of the 3 W&D is prob my "least" fav, but I still love it. lol


message 4: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) Wives and Daughters and North and South. I think that I like Mr. Thornton more than the main character especially in the movie series with Richard Armitage.


message 5: by Caity (new)

Caity | 11 comments me too. Margaret can sometimes get on my nerves. idk why, I just notice that sometimes she does! lol


message 6: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) Especially when she comes into the factory to find Mr. Thornton beating up one of his workers which she thought to be cruel and heartless while I thought how much of an idiot the man was to smoke in the factory and I quickly tried to list more logical ways of dealing with the problems. I stood up and cheered when he did beat the guy but at the same time I felt a pang of sorrow for him. I love, love, love the accent Richard manages to have in the end of the movie. Such a sweetheart!!


message 7: by Caity (new)

Caity | 11 comments Lol agreed Anna!!!


message 8: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) Even though people claim the only reason why they watch it time and time again is for Richard..for me that might be true but I still love that story!!!


message 9: by Nicole (new)

Nicole | 5 comments I think I can safely say that, as much as I LOVE Jane Austen...I LOVE Elizabeth Gaskell even MORE!!


message 10: by Caity (new)

Caity | 11 comments The movie story lines are so captivating!!!!! I lover hers! But also with hers, I like the movies better than the books, wheras with Jane Austen I like the books AND the movies. Lol


message 11: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) I know...I adore Jane Austen's style and characters and costumes and time-period and gentlemen but I mean Elizabeth captures the heart and soul of North and South.


message 12: by Caity (new)

Caity | 11 comments Ditto, Anna!!! Exactly. Austens are defo more comedic like I like, but Gaskells hav lasting effects! Lol


message 13: by Trudy (new)

Trudy Brasure | 59 comments I have been reading Austen's Persuasion and at the same time I've been studying North and South. I cannot help comparing the two. I find Gaskell's descriptions of emotions far more engaging and deeply moving. I find I am spoiled by Gaskell, for what other book do you know where the passion of the hero is so heart-wrenchingly detailed?! Gotta love getting into Thornton's head. sigh.


message 14: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) I don't understand how Miss Hate was able to do what she did in the ending of North and South (the movie and not the book). I would never been able to do it.


message 15: by Trudy (new)

Trudy Brasure | 59 comments Anna wrote: "I don't understand how Miss Hate was able to do what she did in the ending of North and South (the movie and not the book). I would never been able to do it."
What do you mean, exactly? Having the courage to go to John to offer her business plan?


message 16: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) No, him staring at her the whole time and not messing up she was trying to say about the business plan. I didn't want to be the one who was now called The Spoiler Teller.


message 17: by Trudy (new)

Trudy Brasure | 59 comments Anna wrote: "No, him staring at her the whole time and not messing up she was trying to say about the business plan. I didn't want to be the one who was now called The Spoiler Teller."
lol! I doubt there's anyone here who has NOT seen the train scene ending. And I agree, I don't know how she managed to keep taking. I also don't know how she managed to stand up and walk after that kiss. I would have smacked into that green pole!


message 18: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) Trudy wrote: "Anna wrote: "No, him staring at her the whole time and not messing up she was trying to say about the business plan. I didn't want to be the one who was now called The Spoiler Teller."
lol! I doubt..."

I would have unable to even stand up let alone walk for a long while either and Richard says that his face isn't meant for good guys..just look at him. He's perfect in every possible way...did you notice that he's very much like Darcy and Margret is like Lizzie??? I think that people use the plot of Pride and Prejudice way too much, don't you?


message 19: by Trudy (new)

Trudy Brasure | 59 comments The theme of an impassioned lover slowly winning the heart of a reluctant girl is quite common. There are a lot of similarities between N&S and P&P, but there are a tremendous differences as well. When Darcy proposes, he full expects Lizzy will accept him and he doesn't seem to take into account whether she returns his affections or not. Thornton, on the other hand, is desperate to reveal his feelings and can hardly believe he has a chance of being accepted - but he declares his love anyway! btw, an interesting fact I discovered recently - Thornton never officially proposes in the book. At least, he never speaks of marriage, only love.


message 20: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) In a way speaking of love instead of marriage seems more romantic and sweet somehow to me at lest. You write beautifully when explaining things and actions and fictional characters, I just wanted to point that out. To you which author do you admire and love more: Elizabeth or Jane more? (as in the authors and not the characters)?


message 21: by Trudy (new)

Trudy Brasure | 59 comments I suppose this is off-topic, but in comparing Austen and Gaskell, I have to pick Gaskell. Her work gives more glimpses into a wider variety of humanity, not just the society set.


message 22: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) I totally agree with you Trudy!! I always wanted to meet a Trudy and you know how I pictured what a Trudy would look like??


message 23: by Trudy (new)

Trudy Brasure | 59 comments Rather like a Helga? ;) You're welcome to message me. I don't think we should chat here.


message 24: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) You are right!! I'll be sure to PM you!!


message 25: by Lianne (new)

Lianne (eclecticreading) Alice wrote: "I don't think I could ever pick a favorite of these three; I like how North & South has lots of character depth and is just amazing in every way; Cranford is HILARIOUS and I love the characters/plot; and Wives and Daughers is just wonderful. How about you?"

Difficult question! I love both North & South and Wives and Daughters, they're both such wonderful stories (though it's been a while since I've re-read either of them xD).


message 26: by Caity (new)

Caity | 11 comments Haha I actually have never read them; *blush of shame* lol just watched! lol


message 27: by Lianne (new)

Lianne (eclecticreading) Alice wrote: "Haha I actually have never read them; *blush of shame* lol just watched! lol"

The adaptations are fantastic, I thought the ending they wrote for Wives and Daughters was especially sweet <3 I hope you get around to reading the books sometime, there's a lot more going on in the books *nods*


message 28: by Caity (new)

Caity | 11 comments my sister read Wives and Daughters and really liked it. I hope I get to them!! :D


message 29: by Deborah (new)

Deborah Borges (deborah_borges) | 1 comments I only read North and South but this one made me want to read all the others by Gaskell. And became one of my favourite books!!!


message 30: by Nicole (new)

Nicole | 5 comments I was so happy to learn that the movie adaptions stuck so very closely to the books! I love EG's characters and stories!!


message 31: by Xenia (new)

Xenia (collarcitybrownstone) | 16 comments Anna wrote: "Trudy wrote: "Anna wrote: "No, him staring at her the whole time and not messing up she was trying to say about the business plan. I didn't want to be the one who was now called The Spoiler Teller...."

I don't know how Daniela was able to stand up after that kiss either. That Richard Armitage is so handsome and sexy and boy does he know how to lay on a kiss and the look of love.


message 32: by Julie (new)

Julie Cranford is the best, but Wives & Daughters and North & South are good, too.


message 33: by Nicole (new)

Nicole | 5 comments I would love to live in Cranford :)


Etty Kurnianingsih | 4 comments I like all... The stories is not all 'bout love love everywhere but the relationship between the middle or low class people and their life.


message 35: by Trudy (new)

Trudy Brasure | 59 comments I've finally seen Cranford. I don't think you can even compare it with North and South in any way - they are so completely different! It actually shows the breadth of Gaskell's capability in writing such different stories, each of them beautifully able to convey all the foibles, longing, and beauty of the human condition. North and South will very likely remain may favorite film of all time.


message 36: by Caity (new)

Caity | 11 comments I finally saw Return to Cranford- I LOVED it!!! Tom Hiddleston did SO well as William Buxted!


message 37: by Rachel (new)

Rachel (hopeless-wanderer) It's about time! :P


message 38: by Sophie (new)

Sophie | 44 comments I have just seen North and South and I loved it! So right now, that is my one! Up next for me is going to be Wives and Daughters :)


message 39: by Caity (new)

Caity | 11 comments =D I know you'll love it! :D


message 40: by Nicole (new)

Nicole | 5 comments Yay Soph!


message 41: by Sophie (new)

Sophie | 44 comments I can't wait! :)


message 42: by Trudy (new)

Trudy Brasure | 59 comments There's a campaign afoot to get N&S aired on Masterpiece (PBS). Wouldn't it be great to see this brilliant period drama on national television?!

https://m.facebook.com/NorthSouthtoPBS


message 43: by Sophie (new)

Sophie | 44 comments Yes!!!


message 44: by Trudy (new)

Trudy Brasure | 59 comments Thanks. I forgot to mention: please 'like' or follow the FB page to stay informed of this campaign. We may need your help!


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