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I thoroughly enjoyed this book. I love the innovative use of magic and the characters.


is book 4 worth reading? i have read the synopsis on the back cover but cant decide if i should or not because how wonderful the first 3 were.
opinions please?

is book 4 worth reading? i have read the synopsis on the b..."
The fourth book isn't as good as the first three, but I really enjoyed it.
I especially have a lot of respect for it, because the continuing series for Mistborn is written so Brandon Sanderson can have a break while he is writing Way of Kings, which will be the greatest series ever!
Anyway, to answer your question, yes, it is worth reading.

Considering how many truly awful fantasy books are out there, you could do a lot worse than Mistborn, and Sanderson certainly seems to appeal to a lot of people, but I think I'll avoid him in the future. Of course, I in no way mean to disparage anyone who enjoyed the book, but am I really the only person who felt this way?

My husband still hasn't finished this trilogy but only because he can't get past the slow parts in Hero of Ages. So you aren't alone in your distaste.
I understand what you said about Vin. She was, by far, not my favorite character. Sazed, Breeze, and even Elend were far more interesting. Oh , Sazed... <3
Rothfuss is amazing but much older than Sanderson. He's still young and he hasn't written very many books. "Elantris" is an earlier work but simpler.
Robert Jordan had chosen Sanderson though to finish his Wheel of Time series, so he has some good stuff in him.

While I actually enjoyed this series well enough to finish it, I completely get where you're coming from in regards to Sanderson's writing. I've picked up....and quickly put down...several of his other books.

Oh....and the benefit of e-books? The Nook (I don't know about Kindle/others) offers free samples, some quite lengthy--the one for Sanderson's last book was 100+ pages--of books so you don't have to waste money on books you're going to throw through a wall!

One book I thought seemed VERY poorly written and exact words for screenplay was I am Number Four. It didn't use any kind of descriptions that made it very exciting and he could have written it a ton better.


My husband still hasn't finished this trilogy but only because he can't get past the slow parts in Hero of Ages. So you aren't alone in your distaste.
I underst..."
Thanks for the responses. I just wanted to note that Patrick Rothfuss is actually only two years older than Brandon Sanderson, and that Sanderson has written about a dozen books to Rothfuss's two. :) I'm actually amazed looking at the list of publication dates on Sanderson's wikipedia page. He's had a new book out almost every year since 2005 (in comparison, I think Rothfuss once said he worked part-time on NotW for 13 years, and we NotW fans all know how many long years it took for its sequel, Wise Man's Fear!) That kind of productivity is impressive, and obviously I don't know what kind of publishing pressure he's under or how he likes to work, but I wonder if Sanderson might be better served by letting his works marinate a bit longer.

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I think the answer to that is a solid yes. I'd rather read something by an author who has been honing their craft, even if it means a longer wait between books, than reading a new book each year by a voice that hasn't grown/changed.




I guess Mistborn just isn't for everyone. Tons of people like Martin, but I couldn't get past 60 pages of the first book without giving up.

I find this really intriguing, because I really loved Mistborn, found Kelsier marvellously faceted and balanced in his heroism and darkness - but in contrast, I found Name of the Wind tedious, self-centred and unbalanced, the hero uncomfortably Marty-Stu.
I guess the point is that it would be a boring world if we were all alike. :)





I have read all Sanderson's adult books released so far, and I have to say that while his 'voice' hasn't changed much it has definitely grown. When you put his books in chronological order you notice a clear progress in terms of pacing, plotting and character development. From a technical point of view he gets better with each book. (Though Mistborn: the Final Empire is still my favorite of his, and that was his second released book.)
I'm obviously a fan, but I can see where you guys are coming from and even agree that prose isn't Sanderson's strong point. His writing is ... functional, I'd call it. He is nowhere near the master word smith Patrick Rothuss, for example, is.
I can also follow, up to a point, the critiques on his characters being relatively flat and one dimensional. (Mistborn's Vin is still one of my favorite characters ever.)
But that's okay, I read Sanderson for his creativity, for his clever magic systems, for his in dept world building and intricate plotting. And those he does really well. Mistborn's Allomancy is really clever and the most awesome and funnest magic system I have encountered. The Way of Kings, is a real feat of world building, not just a medieval europe template with extras, but a unique ecological system and societies that are heavily shaped by major electrical storms ravaging the continent every few days. I didn't like the 4th Mistborn book, the alloy of law, as much as I liked the original trilogy, (It is more detective/urban fantasy in style, and that isn't really my flavor of fantasy. The opening, chapter however, might be the best thing he has ever written.) but the way he took the Mistborn world and advanced its culture, mythology and technology 300 years into the future was pretty impressive IMO, I haven't seen that done anywhere else.



Got no problem with you hating them but why would you read all 3 if you thought they were crap?





Fair enough. I can definately see where you're coming from. I enjoyed the books but wouldn't say they are a must read by any means. The magic system was unique but the plot was somewhat predictable. I did tire of the constant 'Vin pulled on x and pushed off y'.


I guess my main problem with the book is the lack of world building. It's not particularly deep is what I am getting at, and the only glossary in the book is to explain the magic system, which I did find unique all things considered.
This the first book I've read by Sanderson, and for sure I'll be following what remains of this series as well as The Way of Kings series.

Then some friends of mine told me Mistborn was much better, so I bought the trilogy in a box-set. I had a really hard time getting into it. I didn't feel drawn to any of the characters; they just didn't seem sympathetic to me. The world was dark, dreary and too dystopian to make me want to spend time there.
The magic system was well-crafted, yes, but I find that if I don't care about the characters, I don't keep reading.
So I tried the first book a couple of times and kept putting it down. Finally I picked it up again and made myself keep reading just to figure out what my buddies liked.
I did finish it. But it was still only ok. I was disappointed, as I wanted to like the books, wanted to find a new author where I'd have to obsessively read everything he's written. Alas, not to be.

I hated book 2 as I didn't see the point in furthering a story which had finished itself quite well. ( I'm not one of those people who needs every single thread of every story I read which isn't exactly like my life fully explored and explained by the end or by prequels and sequels.)
I read book 3 coz I'm a bit obsessive and will always try to finish any book I start and any series they carry on publishing. It did seem to make sense as a whole trilogy and I liked the whole thing better. I still think it would have been better if it was left as just a stand alone book in the same way Star Wars was better as the original trilogy even if Lucas had the Idea for the prequels at the time - Sometimes you need to know when to quit whilst still ahead.
I recently read Way of Kings by Sanderson and I think the world he has created here has some great potential and a few of the characters are really interesting. I'm quite looking forward to the next installment of this but fear that he may have spent so much time creating multiple storylines in book one that it will take ages for him to refine the story down to a publishable book.

I don't know if Sanderson intended this book for teens or is he just constantly underestimating his readers. It would be unfair to say it wasn't fun at times, but it was just that - mildly entertaining flick that I'll forget very fast.



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