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@ Sans#2 - Glad I made you laugh. ☺
#3 – GTK.
#4 – Ah! Well, that explains it.
#6 – Man-oh-man! I’m thinking of skipping them too. Finally broke down & wrote my first question about them. Ugh.
#7 – Good point. Since he is the ultimate B&B.
#8 – She said she wasn’t a virgin.
#9 – LOL! **smacks forehead** Duh!
#11 – So, really, you were his way of distancing her. Yeah, I had a
#12 – LMAO! Okay.
#13 – I see later than he really cares for him.
#15 – I know! She was a little naïve there, IMHO.
#16 – No? ☺
#18 – Yeah, on re-listen, I think it was Tohr. Had me worried.
#21 – True. I’ll defer to you.
#22 – (view spoiler)
#24 – Me either!
#25 – So you’re quite familiar with 3 a.m.?
#27 – Hmmmm. ** Lisa ponders the implications of this.**
#30 – Okay. Thanks. GTK that I'll clearly know.
@Lisa #8 - She didn't lie. ^_~#22 - *cackles in a moderately evil manner*
#25 - 3am is my BFF. ^o^
@ Sans - Yeah, I got to that part. ☺ But CaroB & I are still, WTH?-ing!
Carol wrote: "Guys, you're barking up the wrong tree. Cryptic clue - It's all in the name!"It is? Well, I don't know what that means, and I don't know where it is on the audio. I did a Google Book search for the word "virgin" and "V" by not all the pages will show. So, I'll remain in the dark for a while.
Lisa Kay wrote: "@ Sans - Yeah, I got to that part. ☺ But CaroB & I are still, WTH?-ing!"Don't worry, you haven't missed anything on that score.
Lisa Kay wrote: "Carol wrote: "Guys, you're barking up the wrong tree. Cryptic clue - It's all in the name!"It is? Well, I don't know what that means, and I don't know where it is on the audio. I did a Google B..."
Don't worry, it will all make sense in the end!
Okay, didn't listen to the audio at all today. Everyone caught up? I'm going to start listening to Chapter 36. Don't know what page that is.
Unfortunately, I've only just finished Chapter 21 because I haven't been able to read too much in the daytime. I've had to catch up on the jobs I neglected around the house over the past four months, when I was working. Posting my comments on Chapters 15-21 a little later today.
I haven't listened any farther than Chapter 35 as I was helping someone on GRs. So, you have time to catch up, Carol. ☺
That's great! Hopefully, I will be able to catch up!
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Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 15 – 21#13. I don't think so. The Brotherhood is in essence an army and so there has to be discipline. Rhage is a loose cannon at the moment and his actions could endanger everyone.
#14. I like her honesty as well and I think when she says (view spoiler) it reveals her insecurities.
#15 I know what you mean. It was pretty intense and Rhage did come on heavy but I think it's the bonding thing.
#16. I hadn't heard of this movie, so I looked it up. You're so funny!
#17. Me too! Yes, I think he just wanted to hear his own name on her lips.
#18. Tohrment came to ask him about the training.
#19. Perhaps that might work on sunburn as well. Cheaper than sun creams and you could lick it off!! Anyone returning from the Fade would be held in high regard. The Fade is the most beautiful place in the vampire’s world and it's the vampire’s version of heaven.
@ Carol#13 – Excellent point. Forgot about this really being an all out war.
#14 – True.
#15 – Ah! Yes, the “bonding thing.” Good point. Why does a part of me keep forgetting they are vamps?
#16 – Yes, but you know what Nosferatu was, didn't you? LOL! 50 First Dates is a cute movie; check it out some time. Funny too! Glad I made you smile.
#18 – I think I just got a little freaked out – I couldn’t remember who had a goatee! And they didn’t say any names – well, none I caught on the audio.
#19 – Uh…**Lisa Kay wipes drool off chin** I really like the “licking” part! Vamp version of Heaven! Excellent point, Carol. I’m impressed.
@ Lisa Kay#17. Yes, I knew Nosferatu was a silent movie based on the Dracula story! It's a 1922 German film and, according to IMDB, it was an unauthorised version of Bram Stoker's Dracula.
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Lisa Kay's Questions for Chapters 22-28#20. I agree with you.
#21. I wasn't surprised because the compound, with all it's high security, would be the safest place for him to take Mary.
#22. I'm sure it won't be pleasant.
#23. He must have looked cute in that get-up!
#24. I can only assume he didn't tell her why because then he would have to tell her about his beast.
#25. If I recall correctly, Tohr gave John his number and said to ring and whistle if he
changed his mind about the training. I assume he will spend time in the gym at the compound. I don't mind the cliffhangers.
#26. I think the bonding process causes such intense feelings that Rhage has to express what he feels.
#27 You shouldn't always assume that V's dreams are to be taken literally!
#28. I think she's simply trying to convince herself that it's true. But I don't believe it either.
@ Carol#23 – Yeah, I just loved that he lied and said he always slept in that get-up – and she called him on it with the price sticker! LOL!
#25 – I like cliffhangers; love the feeling of “O.M.G!” However, I get a little tired of them when an author uses them at the end of every chapter! A little overkill. Sometimes it is nice to have a sweet stopping place.
#26 – Ah!
#27 – Hmmmm.
So, CaroB, are you doing the next set of questions?
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Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 29-35# 29. When I first read the book, I didn’t anticipate this sort of punishment either although it was Rhage’s choice. (view spoiler)
#30. Rhage knows this is only a temporary release from the curse to prevent him from hurting any of his Brothers. He was still beastless at the end of Chapter 35.
Sure enough, I'm on Chapter 38 and the beastie's back!
#31. I can sympathise with both of them but I tend to side with Rhage. He’s always been open and honest with Mary (except for his beast issue but that's hardly surprising) but she won’t open up to him. The feeding is part and parcel of who Rhage is and, although it may be difficult to see him with another woman, it’s something Mary is going to have to accept. I think he asked her to watch to put her mind at rest that there is nothing sexual involved.
#32. Yes fighting does help calm Rhage’s inner beast. I don’t think V has any calming influence other than appealing to Rhage’s common sense.
#33. John is definitely high among my favourite characters.
# 34. Not sure on this point but have a feeling Mr. O has his eye to the main chance. He certainly hates Mr. X.
#35. Yes, I’m glad John decided to go with Tohrment. No doubt, we’ll see major changes in his life now.
When will be starting Chapter 36 or has everyone started already?
CaroB's questions for Chapter 36 - 4036. Talk about an awkward moment: one fo the recurring themes in vampire romances is the idea of blood-drinking as being a sensual thing. Who did you synpathise most with, Layla, Mary or Rhage? How well do you think that sitution was handled and why / why not?
37. Can you imagine what kind of a life John must have had that the simple act of getting bland food his stomach could handle could bring him to tears? I couldn't decide which I found more touching, the way Tohrment and John bonded over a car or the way Wellsie comforted him and allowed him to keep his dignity by sending Tohr out of the room. All of this without John being able to communicate with them. Have you ever had a moment where you couldn't be understood and found there was no need for words or you made do without them?
38. This isn't a question, just an observation. For a bunch of warriors, these guys sure have had a bunch of mushy moments in the last few chapters. Is there anything sexier than a dominant male able to show his softer side? Is that one of the major draws for you with these guys? Oh hey, I got a question in after all :-)
39. I think i may have missed a previous encounter between Zsadist and Bella but that little bit at the party sure got me intrigued! Do I stink a love triangle in the works between another Bella and two males? Please tell me no!
40. Have you been following the lessor's storyline? What do you make of Mr O (or David Ormond as he called himself) and his sudden reluctance for the lessor lifestyle? Will he turn into a good guy?
41. Do you think Mary is in danger from Rhage's "beast"? How do you think his antsy-ness will resolve itself? (BTW, I want to learn the cherry stem trick)
42. Wow, Chapter 40 was crazy. There was no way I saw that coming with Bella and Zsadist. one line really jumped out at me. "He suffered. And there was nothing sexy or thrilling about that." I feel like we've started on B & Z's story already and makes me so glad that I'm reading this series in order. It's so obvious that Zsadist is fucked up. This guy has emotional baggage for his baggage. And yet, I can't wait to read on and find out more about his story. How do you think the author will turn it around so that he gets back to being sexy and thrilling, despite (or maybe because of) his suffering?
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CaroB's questions for Chapter 36 – 40#36. Layla is the one I feel sorry for because she regards it as a duty and an honour to serve the Brotherhood.I'm sure it felt like a slap in the face for her when Rhage is reluctant to drink from her. But I like how she understands Rhage’s reservations and wants Mary to be a part of it to reassure him.
#37. Yes, that scene was so very touching. I love Wellsie and how she seems to know just what to say and do to put John at ease.
#38. Yes, it definitely is for me. That scene between Wrath and Rhage, when Rhage asks if he can have a shindig for Mary is certainly one of those mushy moments!
#39. They first meet in the training room when Bella takes John to the compound with Mary. Quite a memorable scene! Not sure of the Chapter and page though. Love triangle? Zsadist and Bella’s story is up next so figure that one out for yourself.
#40. Mr O's a difficult character to figure out. Good guy? I doubt it very much.
#41. No comment here as I already know the answer to this from previously reading the book.
#42. It’s quite a shocker, isn’t it! If you’re into tortured heroes, Zsardist is the ultimate. That’s why I love him so much. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve read Lover Awakened but it’s totally heartrending, uplifting and romantic.
Lisa Kay's Answers to CaroB's Questions for Chapters 36 – 40 36. Talk about an awkward moment: one of the recurring themes in vampire romances is the idea of blood-drinking as being a sensual thing. Who did you sympathize most with, Layla, Mary or Rhage? How well do you think that situation was handled and why / why not?
I totally sympathized with Mary. Didn’t like that Rhage drank from someone else at all! Yes, yes, I understand all the reasons and it makes it more “realistic” given the situation – nevertheless, I can’t help how I feel. Dropped the rating of the book for me, caused me to lose interest in the book, too.
37. Can you imagine what kind of a life John must have had that the simple act of getting bland food his stomach could handle could bring him to tears? I couldn't decide which I found more touching, the way Tohrment and John bonded over a car or the way Wellsie comforted him and allowed him to keep his dignity by sending Tohr out of the room. All of this without John being able to communicate with them. Have you ever had a moment where you couldn't be understood and found there was no need for words or you made do without them?
Yes. I was at a retreat and being eaten alive by mosquitos and totally miserable. Some (gorgeous!) guy was there with his equally gorgeous girlfriend and he used some of his bug repellent on himself and rubbed it on me (he didn’t have the bottle with him). Totally non-sexual, but it was one of the kindest, most memorable acts of kindness I’d ever experienced.
38. This isn't a question, just an observation. For a bunch of warriors, these guys sure have had a bunch of mushy moments in the last few chapters. Is there anything sexier than a dominant male able to show his softer side? Is that one of the major draws for you with these guys? Oh hey, I got a question in after all :-)
Nope. Nothing sexier. ☺ It is a big draw.
39. I think I may have missed a previous encounter between Zsadist and Bella but that little bit at the party sure got me intrigued! Do I stink a love triangle in the works between another Bella and two males? Please tell me no!
Lord, I hope not.
40. Have you been following the lessor's storyline? What do you make of Mr O (or David Ormond as he called himself) and his sudden reluctance for the lessor lifestyle? Will he turn into a good guy?
Nope. Don’t like him. He’s lying to himself about what he is. He lies to himself even more later. Totally repulsive.
41. Do you think Mary is in danger from Rhage's "beast"? How do you think his antsy-ness will resolve itself? (BTW, I want to learn the cherry stem trick)
LOL! Trollop! Nah! The beast will never hurt Mary.
42. Wow, Chapter 40 was crazy. There was no way I saw that coming with Bella and Zsadist. One line really jumped out at me. "He suffered. And there was nothing sexy or thrilling about that." I feel like we've started on B & Z's story already and makes me so glad that I'm reading this series in order. It's so obvious that Zsadist is fucked up. This guy has emotional baggage for his baggage. And yet, I can't wait to read on and find out more about his story. How do you think the author will turn it around so that he gets back to being sexy and thrilling, despite (or maybe because of) his suffering?
Man-oh-man! You called it, CaroB! LOL over his baggage having baggage. I hope JW turns it back around. ☺
@ Carol#29 – Oh yes, really like seeing Z’s other side.
#31 – I understand your point.
#36 – Yes, I was a little happy for her when she was so thrilled that they were going to ask her again.
#42 – Is Z your fav of all of the BDB?
Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 41 – 53 43. Were you freaked when Bella was taken? Worried about the direction in which the story was going?
44. So Mary handled the dragon without any problem. Both indoors and out. Did this surprise you? Man-oh-man! Talk about bondage. Comments.
45. Was what Rhage did to piss off the Scribe Virgin all that bad? Was he responsible?
46. What did you think of Rhage’s request scene with the Scribe Virgin? Was Mary’s realization she was “cured” too rushed?
47. How about the Scribe Virgin’s change of mind – and her reason for it? To consider it as “suffering enough” -- is that an insult to women who choose not to have children? Or understandable because Mary does want to have children, so she has suffered.
48. Comments on V’s prediction coming true?
49. How do you feel about the cliffhanger with Z and Bella? Good thing their book is next, right?
@ Jenny#43 – I was worried that she was going to get raped.
#44 – Excellent point. Yes, Rhage was the one who needed to know she could handle his dragon.
#45 – I agree. He sounds like he was a bit of an asshat, but I still think she is a controlling bitch. Her whole, "I do love you..." bit was unbelievable to me. I actually liked her better in the first book.
#46 – Yeah. As a nurse, I wondered by they would draw blood again on someone who already had a short supply just because a non-related machine failed, and get the results back so quickly. Totally rush.
#47 – I put off having kids for many reasons; when I decided to have them it was too late (if you call 36 late) and it broke my heart when I found I couldn’t. I thought the Scribe Virgin making this a reason was a little…awkwardly weird? How did she find out Mary couldn’t have kids? How does she know Mary desired to have any? I didn’t think this scene was that well done.
#48 – I think we have a while to go b/f we get to V. Isn’t his coming out this year?
#49 – Yes, Ward has a way of making me feel for these characters and pulling me in to their lives. I’m with you on the HEA endings, Jenny!
You are sweet to be sympathetic, Jenny. Maybe I'm just a little sensitive to the issue. I actually had several people say to me, "You younger generation. You're so selfish, not having children." Huh? They don't know me, or my reasons for not having children.
I think the worst is when someone says, "Here, take mine." That is a terribly insensitive thing to say, and they don't mean it. (99% of the time!)I think people should have the right to have children or not, without comentary from people who don't know them. Not everyone is the right type of person to have children. The world is over-populated already.
Maybe the people who said that were wanting to be grandparents, or something... and had their own woes. Who knows. I don't really care; it was rude.
@ Carol 39 - I had to go back and find the scene, I'd read it before, but think I hurried through it after wanting to get to Rhage and Mary's next meeting. Reading it again after finishing the book, I can't beleive how little I let it impact me the first time.
42- Oh goodie! Heartrending, uplifting and romantic sound like my kind of book.
Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 41 – 53 43. Were you freaked when Bella was taken? Worried about the direction in which the story was going? Completely. I really liike Bella and not sure I want to read on to the next book to find out what's been happening to her in captivity. But I do want to read on to find out how Z & Butch rescue her.
44. So Mary handled the dragon without any problem. Both indoors and out. Did this surprise you? Man-oh-man! Talk about bondage. Comments. LOL, yeah, the big chains were unsexy, but his fear of hurting her was pretty powerful. I wasn't expecting Mary to be that ok with the beast, but I think she's as intrigued with it as the dragon is with her. I did find it interesting that it's described as a seperate entity, not just Rhage shifting into an animal, but very Jekyll/Hyde-ish.
45. Was what Rhage did to piss off the Scribe Virgin all that bad? Was he responsible? the scenes with the scribe virgin are actually annoying me. It all seems rather overdone. 200 years with a dragon inside him, because he wasa stupid hotheaded youth and losing his temper, but it was a bird that set her off??? I get it, but it seemed OTT.
46. What did you think of Rhage’s request scene with the Scribe Virgin? Was Mary’s realization she was “cured” too rushed? I thought it was a great scene, really touching, but Mary's miracle "cure" was too rushed. Wouldn't the doctors want to test on different machines, make sure that it wasn't equipment failure, or at least keep her for further tests and observations to find out how she was cured?
47. How about the Scribe Virgin’s change of mind – and her reason for it? To consider it as “suffering enough” -- is that an insult to women who choose not to have children? Or understandable because Mary does want to have children, so she has suffered. I didn't think it was an insult to women who choose not to have children, but that whole scene didn't flow for me. From the backstory, it seemed to me that Mary's suffering was caused more by losing her mother and her current illness recurring and her not being able to work in her chosen profession. This might sound awful but it seemed like the author was trying to think of a reason wjhy the scribe virgin might spare Mary and Rhage's relationship... not sure if that makes sense...
48. Comments on V’s prediction coming true? so lame!! If that were my friend who could see into the future and that was all he gave me, there'd be some 'splaining to do!
49. How do you feel about the cliffhanger with Z and Bella? Good thing their book is next, right? I really want to read their book right away! If it weren't for the fact I've got a few other challenge reads to finish up for this month, I'd be so there :-)
@Jyl22075:44- I hadn't thought of that, that Rhage needed it to happen, but ti's a great point.
46 - Couldn't agree more!
47 - Very well put!
Oh no Lisa Kay! I can't believe the things some people think they have a right to say or question you about. They don't seem to get that those words/judgements stay with you.
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Answers to Lisa Kay’s Questions for Chapters 41 – 53 #43. Yes, I was freaked out when I first read the book. As Mr O is impotent, I wasn't too concerned that Bella would be raped. What did scare me was the probability that his relationship with Bella would mirror his relationship with Jennifer with all its attendant violence.
#44. I think the scene with the chains was important because, as Jenny says Rhage needed to know that the beast was no threat to Mary. I think it was also a pivotal point in the story because Mary admitted she was in love with Rhage. (view spoiler)
#45. I warned you that the Scribe Virgin was one mean bitch!
#46. I liked that scene because it showed Rhage in truly heroic light. He was willing to make such a sacrifice for Mary’s sake. I thought that “cure” issue was far too rushed and seemed unrealistic.
#47. I’m sure I remember reading Mary thinking that she would never hold a baby in her arms so I assumed she had wanted children. So the Scribe Virgin’s change of mind did make sense and I only thought she was referring to Mary when she said it.
I think the decision to have children or not is a purely personal one and no-one else’s business.
#48. V did drop hints about Mary’s name but why he didn’t come clean, I’m not sure. That’s probably just V being V!
#49. When I originally finished this book, I had to buy Lover Awakened straightaway. I just couldn’t wait to read their story!
@ Lisa Kay
#42. Yes Zsardist is my favourite brother. I won't say why because I don't want to spoil his story. I'm also keen to hear what you all think!
@ Jenny
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is the 5th book in the series and was originally issued in March 2007. I knows it's available on Kindle and probably in paperback as well.I've really enjoyed doing this buddy read. When I first read Lover Eternal, I had only just discovered J R Ward and the world of the BDB and I simply just lapped it up without thinking too hard about it. These discussions have encouraged me view the book with a more critical eye and recognise it's shortcomings. I have now rated it 4*.
I do hope we manage to do a buddy read of Lover Awakened!
@ CaroB#43 – Completely agree. That is why I am hesitant to start another “buddy read” on the next one for February. I may need a break here. I don’t know.
#44 – I was the surprised by the “separate entity” also.
#45 – Yes. Again, totally agree with you. Glad you articulated it so much better than I. Let the punishment fit the crime.
#46 – Gheez… we are on a Mind Meld! Excellent points about the machines and further tests and observations for the reason.
#47 – Great points and makes total sense… about her mom & profession.
#48 – LOL!
#49 – Ah! You may have to talk me into the next one, CaroB. ☺
@ Carol #43 – Well the rape thing is a relief. Forgot about the impotence. Maybe I’ll read the next. Don’t know about his “relationship with Jennifer with all its attendant violence” – that was too creepy for me.
#44 – LOVE your spoiler quote. ☺
#45 – Yes, she is! She wouldn’t even give him one last “good-bye”. Cheese & crackers!
#46 – Yes, loved Rhage’s sacrifice.
#47 – Yes, I knew Mary wanted children from reading that, but how come the SV didn’t know until after her decree? I guess I was expecting her to be a little more “all-seeing, all-knowing”.
#49 – Ah! You may have to join CaroB in convincing me that the water is fine. ☺ I do love a good "buddy read". I always learn something about myself.
@Lisa Kay#49. I understand if you want to wait a while before reading Lover Awakened because it is a real emotional roller coaster. I'm in good company about Z though because in
JRW says:I think I'll close with the fact that I'm still in love with Z and always will be.
@ Carol: I have the Insider's Guide, but haven't read it yet because I thought it would contain spoilers for the series. Is that right, do you know? Would you recommend reading it now or wait til I'm further in the series?
I don't know if I can handle an emotional roller coaster right now, Carol. Hmmmmm... decisions, decisions. CaroB, when are you going to read it?
Jenny, when do you guess-ta-mate you'll get it? Two weeks, four?
CaroB wrote: "@ Carol: I have the Insider's Guide, but haven't read it yet because I thought it would contain spoilers for the series. Is that right, do you know? Would you recommend reading it now or wait til I..."Carob, there are definitely spoilers! For instance, she opens with a short story about Z and Bella which follows on from their book. So it would be OK to read that once you have read Lover Awakened. Then there are dossiers on each of the Brothers including an 'interview' with each of them (very funny) and her own thoughts on writing their books. So you can read each dossier after reading the book without much problem. There's lots more as well. It's a bit like the BDB bible. Hope that's helpful!
Not sure yet Lisa Kay, I'm thinking sometime in the next month, but I'll have to work it around challenges and current buddy reads.
Thanks Carol, I might wait til I've got a couple more fo the brothers under my belt then.... heehee :-)
Well, let me know, CaroB, and I'll see if I'm in the mood to read it with you. Okay?
Or, rather, listen. ☺
sure, no worries, Lisa Kay!
Sorry, didn't get the e-mail for this! That sounds find, Jenny. My digital library has a shorter waitlist too. We can check out in 7-14-21 day increments. If it is an e-book, we can return it at any time, but if is an audiobook, it returns on the scheduled day. Which is a drag, b/c I can only check out 10 books at a time. I have to watch that my requests don't cause me to go over this number.
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