Clockwork Prince (The Infernal Devices, #2) Clockwork Prince discussion


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Does anyone else want to slap Tessa!?!?!

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Claudia the Night Owl Jem and Tessa best end up together in the end >-<


message 202: by Ash (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ash Ya, that would suck to be in her position.
I don't think that she knows how much she's in love with Will, she thinks the best way to go is with Jem (when it isn't). She's really confused with both guys and you can't blame everything on her; Will only found out about his fake curse after Jem proposed. So think about how he acted when she first knew him: with a wall around him.
But one thing to blame her on is about how she should have given more time to think about getting married.


message 203: by Sheri (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sheri Sweettina1 wrote: "I don't think Jem and Tessa should be together. If she doesn't love him she shouldn't force herself to. She is in a very tough spot. I don't know what I would do if I were her. Will deserves a girl..."

I agree, Will be torn. Tessa will be torn too. But if Jem is gone, what else does he have besides his love for Tessa?? He needs her like he needs to breathe..and I truly think the "baby" factor will come into play. It seemed a critical point in CA that she couldn't bear a child, and Cassandra likes to throw us for a loop. She may love Jem, but she seems to be utterly "in love" with Will. Passion like theirs can not be denied. I truly feel sorry for Jem, but don't you think that she knows we feed off of that...The 'nice' guy (ie..Simon) never wins.


message 204: by Azhia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Azhia I think the ending will be bittersweet


message 205: by Tess (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tess Will spent basically his whole life pushing people away, making them hate him, just to find out that it was completely a lie. SO, that's one thing. Then he tells the girl he's in love with that he loves her, just to find out that his best friend is engaged to her. How do you think that feels? I certainly hope that 1. Jem doesn't die. and 2. That Tessa and Will will be together in the end. Because his life basically sucks right now.


message 206: by Julie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julie Yeah, like MAJOR sucks. You give up EVERYTHING for everyone you love and then NEVER get anything back except more bad crap. :( Poor Will...
ILOVEHIME!!
~J


message 207: by Ash (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ash Ya, but I don't like Jem anymore...he was okay in the first one, but in the end of the second I just wanted him dead so Will and Tess can be together. He'll probably(hopefully) die of the drug(or other). But I don't know if this will be before or after the wedding; he would want to get married ASAP so he doesn't die, but a good scene would be if he starts dying during the wedding and Tess and Will would have to take care of him.


message 208: by Erin (new) - rated it 5 stars

Erin That is sooo mean!! But I wouldn't be so dissapointed if that happend :0 It is mean but........


message 209: by Ash (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ash Jem lost my sympathy a while ago; all I care about is Will and Tessa


message 210: by Azhia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Azhia Tess *May the odds be ever in your favor* wrote: "Will spent basically his whole life pushing people away, making them hate him, just to find out that it was completely a lie. SO, that's one thing. Then he tells the girl he's in love with that he ..."

!!!!!!!!!!!


message 211: by Arushi (new) - rated it 4 stars

Arushi I'd rather kick her to death. Though that might break Will's heart :P


message 212: by Ash (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ash it would


message 213: by RP (new) - rated it 5 stars

RP oh well


message 214: by Tess (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tess Kayla wrote: "Ya, but I don't like Jem anymore...he was okay in the first one, but in the end of the second I just wanted him dead so Will and Tess can be together. He'll probably(hopefully) die of the drug(or o..."

After he proposed to Tessa, I didn't like him anymore. Plus, Will's demon pox song made my life.


message 215: by Julie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julie Yeah...Jem....I don't like him after he RUINED WILL'S LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( GRRRRRRRRRR!! WILL!!! :D
~J


message 216: by Tess (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tess IT MADE ME CRY FOR A WHOLE HOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well, not really, but it felt like it. I still LOL everytime I read this thread because my name's Tess, so I kind go ?!


message 217: by Julie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julie Yeah...lucky...MY name's Julie and NOBODY writes romantically about that. It's not like Isabel(la) or Tessa, or Blake, or Clary, or Jasmine, or anything pretty. Ugh.
ANyway, yeah, so that pretty much made me hate Jem...well, not hate him, just make me feel all icky about him, I guess. Pitiful, but icky...
~J


message 218: by Tess (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tess I mean, Jem in in a world of darkness right now. He deserves happiness. But Will just spent most of his life in darkness too. IT MAKES IT SOOOOO HARD TO CHOOSE!


message 219: by Julie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julie I know, but then again, Will has ALWAYS been there for Jem, putting Jem first and Jem hasn't really done anything big for Will. Jem realized something was wrong when he knew that Will didn't actually go out to drink. He could have easily gotten something out of Will or learned about his past and then about his sister and the demon.
~J


message 220: by Tess (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tess MY POINT EXACTLY!!!


message 221: by Julie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julie YES!! I know!!! It irritates me because, yes, I DO feel bad for Jem, but Will has it worse. Jem just sits there and waits to die while Will is making the best of it. AND Will is trying to help Jem, while it seems Jem doesn't even care about Will (to a certain extent).
Jem could have helped or by himself track the demon.
~J


message 222: by Tess (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tess And made them keep looking for a cure.


message 223: by Kelly (new) - rated it 5 stars

Kelly Yes i do.


message 224: by Tess (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tess You want to slap her? Good. You're sane. LOL


message 225: by Julie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julie Exactly!!
~J


message 226: by Ash (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ash Another point for Will is how the whole 5 years that Will thought he had the curse, he never ONCE brought up or hinted that he had a curse to Jem(or anyone). He wants Jem to have a fulfilling life(since it's short. And then he knew he didn't have the curse and even then he didn't tell Jem.


message 227: by Julie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julie Yeah, and I mean, if you think about it, that takes some serious pride swallowing. Naturally, humans want to boast and feel pitied or have some sort of attention even if it's from bad things, but Will didn't even say ANYTHING. AND, some people are complaining about how Tess only loves Will because he's a 'bad boy' and crap, and it's really Jem that she's in love with. Well, if you think about it, Will isn't exactly the 'bad boy' they're thinking of. He was just a jerk because he was trying to protect everyone from himself, especially Tess. So HA!
Team Will!! :)
~J


message 228: by Ash (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ash Ya, they all think that he a fake 'bad boy' and that Jem is the best and Will is getting in the way. They just feel pity for Jem because of his addiction. They don't even have anything in common, whereas Will reads all of the books Tessa recommends and even if he hates the book he'll still read it. Just like A Tale of Two Cites.(he said most of this in his letter to Tessa; which was almost as sad as his curse)


message 229: by Julie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julie I KNOW! I am SO in love with Will. He's like...perfect. And, I know that Jem is good and all, I just think that Will is better. I do believe that Jem should get his happy ending, just not with Tess, or he should die right before they get married, either one.
~J


message 230: by Ash (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ash Ya, because if the wedding does happen and it's a traditional shadowhunter wedding, they'll have the binding spell on their hand and we don't know what would happen when he dies.


message 231: by RP (new) - rated it 5 stars

RP Kayla wrote: "Ya, because if the wedding does happen and it's a traditional shadowhunter wedding, they'll have the binding spell on their hand and we don't know what would happen when he dies."

i don't think that the wedding will happen. jem has enough sense to get that will and tessa love each other.


message 232: by Erin (new) - rated it 5 stars

Erin Yeah I dont think they will follow through with it. Something will happen and Will, will object or something!


message 233: by Azhia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Azhia He has to object or i will jump and the book & do it for him ! ; Acutally I think Mortmain will come out of nowhere & it will be postponed or Jem will get really sick or he realizes that Will loves her something like that !


message 234: by Erin (new) - rated it 5 stars

Erin Yeah or Tessa gets kidnapped and Will saves her! I love when the guys save to day!


message 235: by Julie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julie Yeah, I love it too, as long as the girls aren't terribly in distress.
~J


message 236: by Ash (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ash The only problem with Jem having common sense to see that Will loves Tess is that he's too in love with Tess to see anything else. Will is very good at hiding his emotions and the only way for him to show his true colors is if Tessa tells everyone about it.


message 237: by Julie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julie Exactly, like when Will saved Tess, Jem thought that it was because Will knew how much Tess meant to him.
~J


message 238: by Dana (new) - rated it 4 stars

Dana Kayla wrote: "Ya, because if the wedding does happen and it's a traditional shadowhunter wedding, they'll have the binding spell on their hand and we don't know what would happen when he dies."

I agree.. The hint she had gave was Tess in a messed up wedding gown so I think there will be an attack before the wedding takes place ...finally found it here was the clue "And the gold of her ruined wedding dress." it is from Cassandra's website after the Tess vs Katniss match off since Tess won she had to "reveal" a spoiler... here is the link http://cassandraclare.tumblr.com/post...


message 239: by Julie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julie Yep....
I'm SO excited for the next one!!!!!!!!!!!!
EEPZ!!!!!!!!! :D
~J


message 240: by Tess (new) - rated it 5 stars

Tess CLOCKWORK PRINCESS!!! Seriously though. Not very original title.


Annabel Jennifer wrote: "I don't want to slap her. I'm happy she is with Jem. I'm just kind of upset she is not fully over Will yet but hopefully in the next book she gets over him and falls even more in love with Jem. It ..."

WHAT!! Will is so much more compatible with Tessa than Jem is.


message 242: by Ash (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ash That she is


message 243: by Lena (last edited Aug 19, 2012 01:28PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lena HELL YES! Why would she just run off with Jem like that?!?! TEEESSSSSSSAAAAAAA >:(


message 244: by Melody (new) - rated it 3 stars

Melody Kayla wrote: "Ya, but I don't like Jem anymore...he was okay in the first one, but in the end of the second I just wanted him dead so Will and Tess can be together. He'll probably(hopefully) die of the drug(or o..."

I agree :) Jem needs to hurry up and die already I liked him as the side kick friend in clockwork angel by the end of clockwork prince I'm ready for him to be offed sorry I know there are Jem lovers but.... He needs to go he stepped over the line messing with Wills girl sorry they can never be as good together as Will and Tessa plain and simple


message 245: by S. (new) - rated it 5 stars

S. SOPHIEandGIDEON<3 Totally agree with you!

and yehh, Jem deserves someone who totally loves him.. not someone who has to remind herself of Jem whenever she sees Will.
Besides Will and Tessa are MEANT to be together!

WillEssa <3
Twill <3


Mhelgzbritannia Yeah of course Jem will die... so that solves the problem of this complicated triangle.

<3 Will and Tessa
then
<3 Sophie and Gideon
then
<3 Cecily (it's quite confusing here, unless he got Jem as love interest before he dies or he really end up with Gabriel)

I forgot what book it is in The Mortal Instrument but Magnus Bane hinted that he had seen Parabatai became devastated because they lost the other one. When I read that passage, I already know that Jem will die.

Hmmm... I know Tessa will choose Will in the end.


message 247: by Ash (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ash But there is also the possibility that Jem could become a silent brother.
Cassie said a while ago that someone from TID becomes Brother Zachariah.
In the beginning of CoLS, I thought it must be Will, but in the end, I now think that it's Jem.
So there is always that possibility.


Julia (: Okay. Look, Tessa, come to your senses. I don't care, Tessa, wake up, please- go find Will, where your love truly lies. As for you, Jem, I think you might fit perfectly with Celia, so why not hook up with her.
There, easy as that. Tessa, please, just don't break Will's heart- it's too much for a reader to take.


Elizabeth M. I do!!!!!!!! She picks Jem over Will?!? How wrong is that!!!!!


message 250: by angel (new) - rated it 5 stars

angel I sure want to slap Tessa. It's so sad how dumb Tessa was not to notice that Will was pretending to hate her for a reason. I hope Jem dies or something in the next book. Or, Tessa should just dump Jem when she realizes she likes Will more.


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