Clockwork Prince (The Infernal Devices, #2) Clockwork Prince discussion


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Does anyone else want to slap Tessa!?!?!

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ȘᎯɱᎯɴτħᎯ I do! I would've have taken that hot poker and burned both her hands! And then I would have cursed her out and ordered her to fix this and realize who she truly loves! Good Lord I got so mad at that point!!


Lulah lol ^


Betterinblack Samantha-J wrote: "I do! I would've have taken that hot poker and burned both her hands! And then I would have cursed her out and ordered her to fix this and realize who she truly loves! Good Lord I got so mad at tha..."

So true! That would have been great! I wonder what Cassandra Clare thought when she wrote it probably something along "I wonder how their faces are going to look when she chooses Jem instead of will.. Lets figure it out *types in the book*"


Lulah Tessa should be with Will, its so obvious! She agreed to marry Jem, but then she stabs herself with a poker when Will says he likes her ( She obviously likes Will more) And plus Jems annoying he gets on my nerves!! Can't he just die ( Or find somebody else to pursue??)


Caitie Ferdy wrote: "She doesn't deserve to be slapped at all.. Will called her a prostitute and acted like a d**k and was only occassionally nice to her..yes he had good reason to be that way but Tessa didn't know th..."

Yes, i totally agree :)


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Dannielle There is no where in the book, where Tessa shows an obvious preference for either boy. She never in her mind insinuates that she would rather "be" with one over the other. And its completely understandable. You have two men who love you, one of them is dying, the other you refuse to let yourself love, but then when he pours his soul out to you, you slightly allow yourself to indulge in those hidden feelings before snapping back to reality.


If she didnt love Jem, she would have never been engaged to him, plain and simple. If she really hated Will, she wouldnt have allowed herself to kiss him once she knew she belonged to someone else - that someone being Jem.

It just bothers me when people say she loves Will or Jem more ... she loves them equally. If she loved one over the other, or saw one only as a friend, she wouldnt be in this predicament.


Lulah Dannielle wrote: "There is no where in the book, where Tessa shows an obvious preference for either boy. She never in her mind insinuates that she would rather "be" with one over the other. And its completely unders..."

very true, but then again it would be boring if we couldn't bicker with other people about who we like more :)


Elena Group slap for Tessa! Seriously, it was like 'hey, let's get married', and she was like 'well, okay then'. Whil I was like, NOO WHAT THE CRAP.
She should've waited a little more for poor Will. :(


Elena Jennifer wrote: "I don't want to slap her. I'm happy she is with Jem. I'm just kind of upset she is not fully over Will yet but hopefully in the next book she gets over him and falls even more in love with Jem. It ..."

Noooo. D:


Carly I can't believe she. Choose Jem!!!!!! What's wrong with her!! She should have waited a while for will!! What was she thinking!!!!


ȘᎯɱᎯɴτħᎯ Well I do agree she should have waited longer, but what could she have done it was Jem who proposed to her was Tessa supposed to go and say,"I'm sorry Jem but can you ask me again...like tomorrow? I'd really appreciate that its just I kinda have to wait just a little longer"?? :)


Jennifer Dannielle wrote: "There is no where in the book, where Tessa shows an obvious preference for either boy. She never in her mind insinuates that she would rather "be" with one over the other. And its completely unders..."

Yeah I agree she loves them both and it is not her fault she didn't know Will had hidden reasons. I'm just hoping for her to be pulled farther onto the Jem side ;-)


message 63: by Elena (last edited Dec 25, 2011 01:25PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Elena Samantha-J: I would have been perfect fine with a: 'what the hell are you thinking, honey. I know you love me and stuff, but can't you see me and Will are like two pieces of the same puzzle, we fit together perfectly, and even if right now I tell you yes, I'll marry you, it's just because he hasn't made a move first, because otherwise I would've chosen him over you a billion times? Don't take that the wrong way, of course. You're still cute.' now that would have been right. *-*


ȘᎯɱᎯɴτħᎯ Me confused...O_o


Lulah shes kind of a slu* she kisses both of them agrees to marry one and has a crush on the other as well. sigh.


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anne⁷ Tallulah wrote: "shes kind of a slu* she kisses both of them agrees to marry one and has a crush on the other as well. sigh."

If that censored letter is a t, then I'd have to disagree with you. Tessa's feelings for both boys are deep and complicated. It's not as if she kissed them casually, which is what sluts do. She just happened to be in love with two irresistible boys.

And personally, if I were Tessa, I would've mauled Will and Jem behind each other's back. Thumbs down if you don't agree with me.


Azhia Annerooo wrote: "Tallulah wrote: "shes kind of a slu* she kisses both of them agrees to marry one and has a crush on the other as well. sigh."

If that censored letter is a t, then I'd have to disagree with you. Te..."


Me tooo ! (y)


Ferdy Annerooo wrote: "Tallulah wrote: "shes kind of a slu* she kisses both of them agrees to marry one and has a crush on the other as well. sigh."

If that censored letter is a t, then I'd have to disagree with you. Te..."


Yes, you are so right Annerooo.. I don't know why people are being so hard on Tessa when we know she loves Jem and know that her feelings for Will have made her all confused due to his poor treatment of her.. I'm suprised Tessa hasn't got whiplash from Will's attitude..one minute he's calling her a whore and ignoring her, the next he's giving her books to read.. so because of his mixed messages Tessa wasn't able to process her feelings for him. His declaration of love at the end of CP is not going make things magically clearer for her.. if anything it makes things harder because she now not only has to consider her own feelings which are a complete mess anyway but also Jem's and Will's feelings. I wish more people would empathize with her instead of vilifying her just because she didn't jump at the chance to be with Will.
P.s I am totally Team Will.. but more than anything I am Team Tessa.


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yes, yes i do. I cant help but feel that *SPOILER ALERT* she only said yes to Jem out of pity. She still LOVES WILL GOD DAMN IT!!!


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Georgia wrote: "yes, yes i do. I cant help but feel that *SPOILER ALERT* she only said yes to Jem out of pity. She still LOVES WILL GOD DAMN IT!!!"


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Finnicklover Ball But was it really out of pity?
I believe that she truly loves Jem!


Hannah Maybe Tessa won't be with either Jem or Will in the end.


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Finnicklover Ball No I think Tessa and Magnus should run away together and Live a beautiful life!
Either that or Will and Magnus should hook up!


message 74: by Hannah (last edited Dec 26, 2011 06:05PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Hannah Lol, Will and Magnus? That would be an interesting twist in the story :)


Betterinblack Curlygirly wrote: "Lol, Will and Magnus? That would be an interesting twist in the story :)"

i think it would make me laugh more.. than cry over jem dying.. i still want will and tessa..


Mealias i love the Will/Tessa-ship as well as the Jem/Tessa-ship, but I just realized something: Jem's proposal was kinda unfair for Tessa 'coz he specifically told her that it was because of her (or rather his love for her) that he was getting stronger and healthier. When a dying guy says that, you'd find it hard to say "no", wouldn't you?

I mean, think about it, if it were you, you'd think saying "no" to him could actually affect his health, right? He could die of heartbreak!

On the other hand, does Tessa really love Jem, or is she just fond of him? Why does she have musings where she feelings like she lead him on?


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Finnicklover Ball I really want to slap Tessa because of the fact that she can't choose between the two boys. I'm thankful she finally chose SOMEONE! I was going to murder her any second, but really she still likes Will.

HURRY UP AND DECIDE!


message 78: by Elena (last edited Dec 27, 2011 02:00AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Elena Ruthie wrote: "i love the Will/Tessa-ship as well as the Jem/Tessa-ship, but I just realized something: Jem's proposal was kinda unfair for Tessa 'coz he specifically told her that it was because of her (or rathe..."

I think she's just fond of him. She doesn't love him. Not like she loves Will.
Witness the fact that when she's with Will, all she can think of is 'I don't want to hurt Jem', while when she's with Jem all she can think of is 'It's not my fault if Will didn't do anything except making me suffer. It's not my fault if he didn't make a move." So I think it's pretty clear where her love stands. (:


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Finnicklover Ball Wills love stands in his pants :I


Lulah Finnicklover wrote: "No I think Tessa and Magnus should run away together and Live a beautiful life!
Either that or Will and Magnus should hook up!"


If youve read the Mortal Instruments. Magnus must have liked will alot, because now hes with *SPOILER* alec... they look the same :P


Elena Finnicklover wrote: "Wills love stands in his pants :I"

lmfaoo!


Melody Iris Annette wrote: "actually I think that Jem will die in the last book...I don't know-I always had and still have the feeling that Will and Tessa have a stronger connection and their relationship is far more passiona..."

I have a feeling the person dying might not be Jem maybe because he's the obvious choice and cassandra does love her Plot twists I just really hope it is Jem just because his illness... And honestly ill miss him the least out of the 2 boys :). I know that's mean Sorry don't want to offend anyone


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Finnicklover Ball Melody wrote: "Iris Annette wrote: "actually I think that Jem will die in the last book...I don't know-I always had and still have the feeling that Will and Tessa have a stronger connection and their relationship..."

Elena wrote: "Finnicklover wrote: "Wills love stands in his pants :I"

lmfaoo!"



I'm not offended but I least like Will. I have never really liked Will but I am determined that she is going to kill off someone so unexpected that it will give us a massive shock!


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^ she probably will, Finnicklover

ps - nice name XD


message 85: by Finnicklover (new) - added it

Finnicklover Ball Alisa wrote: "^ she probably will, Finnicklover

ps - nice name XD"


Thanks <3
I love Finnick Odair <3


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Finnicklover wrote: "Alisa wrote: "^ she probably will, Finnicklover

ps - nice name XD"

Thanks <3
I love Finnick Odair <3"



awwwe <3
everyone does


Andreea I have a feeling that Jem will die in the last book and then Will and Tessa will finally be together like it should be but the thing is I don't want Jem to die. I was actually rooting for him during that steamy bedroom scene (YUM!) even though I was all for Will before. But then Will broke my heart with everything that happened to him and Tessa said no to him when he suffered to much and I almost threw my Kindle (but I didn't because that would be a very stupid thing to do). And Tessa admitted it herself that she loves Will because she's always staring at him with big googoo eyes and talking about how she likes it when he touches her and stuff (wouldn't we all!). So yeah I think she's gonna end up with Will.


Andreea OH! I forgot to write this in my passion of the Will/Tessa/Jem thingymajig. A few comments earlier someone said that it would be interesting if Tessa and Magnus had the same father. I think that's possible because (*SPOILER TO THOSE THAT HAVEN'T READ THE MORTAL INSTRUMENT SERIES AND SHOULD ASAP!*) 3rd Mortal Instruments book Magnus is talking to Tessa so they obv kept in touch all those years so it wouldn't be so crazy if they were bro/sis. Omg it just occurred to me that Tessa is gonna live forever but Will and Jem won't....WTH NOOO!
Ok feel free to discuss ;)


Melody It is a nice thought that Magnus and Tessa are brother and sister but I have a feeling she is going to be something different wouldn't her and Magnus have some of the same powers he's defiantly warlock I'm guessing if they are related the difference that she has is from her mother then or she's something else entirely and they have just stayed close over the years because they are the only ones that live forever ....Humm the possibilities I'm ready for clockwork princess


Andreea Melody wrote: "It is a nice thought that Magnus and Tessa are brother and sister but I have a feeling she is going to be something different wouldn't her and Magnus have some of the same powers he's defiantly war..."

That's true....hmmm....OH! Does Clockwork Princess come out in 2012 or 2013 because I saw different things on different sites and it would really suck if it came out in 2013.


Lulah Wheree does Finnick Odair come from again? i know it just can't remember


Melody Andreea wrote: "Melody wrote: "It is a nice thought that Magnus and Tessa are brother and sister but I have a feeling she is going to be something different wouldn't her and Magnus have some of the same powers he'..."

I'm pretty sure it comes out 2012 around the fall not completely sure tho I know cassandra Clare has it on her blog:)


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Finnicklover Ball Tallulah wrote: "Wheree does Finnick Odair come from again? i know it just can't remember"

The Hunger Gamees


Lulah OH yeah i totally new that!! and i agree he i pretty awesome :)


message 95: by Cammie (new)

Cammie Jem is my favorite character (other than Magnus) but he should NOT get with Tessa. He longs for someone to love him with their whole heart, which Tessa cannot do since she is obviously in love with Will. Tessa knew who Will was (kind of a jerk) but fell for him despite that. If you really love someone it takes a long time to get over it. The story takes place over a relatively short amount of time, too short to 1.fall deeply in love with one guy 2. fall out of love with that guy enough to fall in love with someone else, and 3. is definitely not enough time to know your own feelings long enough to make a decision about marrying someone.


Hannah I agree :)


Melody Cammie wrote: "Jem is my favorite character (other than Magnus) but he should NOT get with Tessa. He longs for someone to love him with their whole heart, which Tessa cannot do since she is obviously in love with..."

I agree Cammie Jem is not my favorite but is a very great character he deserves better than Tessa:)


Azhia Andreea wrote: "I have a feeling that Jem will die in the last book and then Will and Tessa will finally be together like it should be but the thing is I don't want Jem to die. I was actually rooting for him durin..."

OMG ! I ALMOST THREW MY KKINDLE TOO ! but yeha i toatlly agree with you


Azhia I really really just feel bad for Tessa. She loved Will but he couldnt love her back because of his curse. Then she grows closer to Jem because he made her laugh and sstuff. Then he drops the bomb that he's in love with her and making him stronger. how could she have said no ? Then she finds out that Will was always in love with her that horrible ! Poor Tessa she deserves Will and Jem deserves happinesss


message 100: by Elena (new) - rated it 5 stars

Elena Awh, Finnick Odair. Seriously, I hated Suzanne Collins when he died. :(


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