The Golden Compass
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I like the book the second and third one arent good though.
How curious, i thought the second one was by far the best. The third, not nearly as good as the first two. Just my thoughts
I am just starting the 2nd one today. I loved the Golden Compass. I am glad to hear that some say they enjoyed it. I am hoping to read the entire trilogy.
Looooovvvveee them!!! They are one of my favorite books. I like the first two the best, but then again, any ending to that story would be awful.
I am currently reading the third, and I have been reading it FOREEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVER!! It's REALLY boring!! I am allmost done, and the end gets better... but its really boring and its so long!! So, it makes it seem impossible to read
I just saw the movie and was weirded out when they pronounced daemons "deemons" instead of "daymons", which is what I had been saying in my head. Anyone know which is really right?
From my geek side (ala unix) I always pronounced it "daymon". Mostly cuz it's much cooler to do so.And I'm cool. I'm sure of it.
Plus, I think "Deemons" is too "on-the-nose" in the context of the book/movie; "Daymons" would have at least given it a little jazz.
Daemon is a British variant for demon.
It is pronounced the same.
You can pronounce anything the way you want, but we all reserve the privilege of mocking you when we hear your pretensions.
It is pronounced the same.
You can pronounce anything the way you want, but we all reserve the privilege of mocking you when we hear your pretensions.
Oh those Brits! Always inserting U's and A's into perfectly good words! Next you'll be telling me the H is pronounced in Herbs!
Only when referring to multiple Herberts.
Is the meaning the same? Or does it have different connotations? I can't think of these extended human emotions personified as animals as "demons". They are beautiful. Wish I had one.
In response to Otis, aside from the movie being absolutely horrible, I always assumed "daemon" was pronouced "day-mon", but unlike Paul, I read these books a very very long time ago (just getting into programming, but didn't know anything about servers... especially what a daemon was) and still came up with that pronunciation.
I don't know why it would *ever* be pronounced with the "a" being silent... that'd make the existence of the letter rather pointless, and on the top "pointless silent letters in words" list of all time.
--Kyle
I don't know why it would *ever* be pronounced with the "a" being silent... that'd make the existence of the letter rather pointless, and on the top "pointless silent letters in words" list of all time.
--Kyle
Also, in response to Lmarotta, they definitely are *supposed* to have different meanings... which is, again, why one would assume they are pronounced different...
--Kyle
--Kyle
I also think that Daymons sound better!! I don't care if its British or not!! They should pronounce it the way its written!! Seriously!!Any ways, Deemons, sounds as if its evil, when its not! Its the second have of YOU! Unless your evil... then I feel sorry for you and people around you!!
i haven't read it. but i already watch.the golden compass that will show you the truth
but how it's end? continued? or endlessnesses?
I have a bit of a problem with this series being marketed to children. I thought that all three books were extremely well written and imaginative. However, I have a problem with Pullman's overt-beliefs. It is one thing to want to promote freedom of thought. I also understand that he wanted to write an "anti-Narnia," because of the overtly Christian references in the series. I can also completely relate to his dislike of established religions. However, as the series progresses, we learn that the god that everyone has been worshipping is actually an impotent and somewhat malicious angel-remnants of the Gnostic gospels.
The characters come to the realization that all we have is our own body and our own desires-basically implying that hedonism is all there is. I don't feel comfortable with teaching this message to children.
lorri - apparently in england they approach children with issues like this much sooner than americans would. dont blame the author, thats just how those crazy brits workwhen I started reading this book, I went and looked up how Daemon was supposed to be pronounced... just because day-mon didnt sound right to me, but w/e
Great point and very true.
I don't suppose anyone here is a dæmian. The soul that all people have is called a dæmon, not daemon. (æ is alt+ 0230)Also, on the religious influence, this book did not influence me at all to renouce Christianity, and dæmonism is not a religion or a cult. Even for anyone who just thinks it is fun fantisy, this is a very good book.
Hi everyone!I just wanted to let you all know that I listened to The Golden Compass on audio CD. I listened to the version where the author, Philip Pullman, was the narrator. He pronounced "daemon" like "dee-mon," so that has to be the correct pronunciation! : )
I'm so happy to post in this thread because the other thread turned into an immature, offensive posting brawl.
As for the topic of religion, I think I will understand the message of the books more once I have read all three. It's a little fuzzy for me now. I know that a poster in the other thread said that her church is banning them from reading these books, which is funny because that in and of itself seems to underscore part of the book's message. Awesome.
Lorri: I have not read the last two books, but the entire time I was listening to this book, I kept thinking about how I couldn't believe this was classified as a young adult novel. The adventure aspect of it is definitely appropriate for children-hey, look at Harry Potter; however, the big ideas held within are probably better understood by adults and are for kids to discover eventually and then form their own opinions about--maybe as they go back and reread the books when they're older.
Overall I thought this book was fantastic. It was incredibly imaginative, which is something I as an aspiring writer always humbly and deeply admire.
I do have to say that it took me a little while to get into it at first, but when I did, boy did I fall hard. I got pulled into the story so deeply that when the characters were distressed and emotional, so was I. That, for me, is a sign of a great book. The cliffhanger ending left me satisfied in part, but not completely of course. So, I am going to read the next two in the series as soon as I can get my hands on them. I'd definitely recommend this one!
Man I wished I read this thread first. I read the other one and I had to post something in there, now I kinda regret it ( darn those text spelling punks! ) Anyhoo, i always thought it was pronaunced "deemon".Has anybody has wondered what their daemons would look like?
I think mine would been a cat.
Not sure about other editions but the edition I first read (UK first edition paperback from 1995) has a note from the author at the very beginning that tells the reader the correct pronunciation is dee-mon.See a detailed discussion of the concept here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dæmon_(H...
really?! wow! Just say whatever you want to say, it's not gonna change anything! You get the point eventually
It astounds me that people find the books boring! I don't mean to sounds like no one else can have an opinion (obviously everyone is entitled) I just mean I can't RELATE to it at all. The third book was my favourite, because I love the mulefa. I have always been inquisitive, even as a kid, and I love philosophical questions. I think if you're not into that sort of thing then you probably won't like the books. I just think they're magical though, the world is so rich and complex (and at times harrowing and beautiful). Like I said, I just can't relate to people that find it boring...
Honestly I really loved this series. Well Pullman's description and his emphasization on aurora borealis and stuff very much impressed me. I was literally involved in this book because it was truly intoxicating. It helped to relate to the universal conundrums which I was always interested in!
Well some concepts were left unclear to me like the DUST and cutting children's daemons but in an overall way this book was definitely worth a read!
Obviously its mostly for sci-fi kind of readers ,according to me, because it doesn't potray any teen romance or stuff like that! Lyra was always my faviourite!
Or you could just try the dictionary, which shows the pronunciation as " dee-muh n "Just a thought.
I loved these books. The second book was probably my favorite. It was very dark.
You have to read all three books to really understand DUST.
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i listened to these cds qute awhile ago and they are extraordinary. the reader helps to make it such a memorable work. hope you enjoy them as much as i did.
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