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Buddy Read: The Book Thief





This week is good. I ll order it today :)





Christine, Jasmine and Sandra: Have you gotten a chance to start reading it yet?

I'm 18% into the book. I've finished Part 1 and part way into Part 2.
So let's talk about first impressions!
I thought the book takes a little bit getting used to in the beginning with the narrator and way that the sections are broken up. It's not a standard straightforward storytelling style. Nothing wrong with it, but it took a little bit for me to get used to. I'm very curious about the circumstances of Liesel being dropped off with the foster parents. Why did she get dropped off? What happened to her mom? What sort of system is this that the foster parents get some money for taking her in? So many questions!
So far, I don't think there is anything in particular that is outstanding about the book. I'm curious, but I'm not immediately in love with anything. I'm also curious because so many other people seem to rate this book highly. So, I'm wondering, what's so great about it? So far, there's nothing wrong about the book. Nothing to complain about. The characters are just fine. So far, it's a good set up and I'm very interested, but nothing strikes me as outstanding.
What do you think?


It is a different format but like Viola, I have heard nothing but rave reviews so I'm looking forward to what's to come.

I'm on the 4th part right now and I have to say that I am pretty drawn into the story by now. It's not very dramatic and full of non-stop action, but it's kept me reading and I still want to continue and see where the story leads. It seems as the further you get into the story, the more complex it gets - and I like where the story is right now.

One thing, though, Kristina (or others who've read Part 3), that I didn't understand and maybe you can help me with --
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I'm 18% into the book. I've finished Part 1 and part way into Part 2.
So let's talk about first impressions!
I thought the book takes a little bit getting ..."
I just finished Part one. So far I love Papa! What a gift he is to this poor girl who lost her family in the same day.
To answer your question Viola, I understood that her mother was too sick to provide for the children so apparently foster care was set up. Even in today's society, while the state usually provides medical and dental insurance for foster children, the foster parents are paid a certain amount each month to take care of them and I believe can claim them on their taxes every year.
onto Part 2 :)

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@Jennifer -- Yeah, you are right. Thanks for responding.
How far along is everyone? I'd like to expand on my thoughts on the mayor's wife, but I don't want to get ahead of others. Though, I guess I'm not sure if anything more happens with the mayor's wife beyond where I am right now (which is 60%).

And Viola, I understand that Liesel being Jewish must have made things a bit strange for the story for you. Especially when Max entered the story.

And Viola, I understand that Liesel being Jewish must have made things a bit strange for the story for you. Especially when Max entered the story."
LOL, no, I realized that she was German well before Max entered the story.

I was hooked from the very beginning. Having the narrator be the Grim Reaper sparked my imagination. I thought that was so clever. I also fell in love with Leisel immediately, she caught my heart with her vulnerability, left absolutely alone in such a hostile world. Here is where my memory will fail, but I think I recall that Leisel's father was arrested/disappeared because he was accused of being a Communist. I figured that the mother knew that her future was very doubtful because of the same association. I can forget that the Nazi regime went after more than just Jews; they committed genicide on Communists, homosexuals, the disabled, those with mental illnesses, etc. I loved the way this book reminded me that even the German population suffered under Hitler.
I also was amazed at Papa's compassion and tenderness. But, I also loved Mama and her strength. She reminded me of my maternal grandmother. But, I really was captured by the relationship between Leisel and her best friend whose name is escaping me at the moment. Even now, as I write my impressions, I can feel emotions rising from some deep place, and I am the least likely person to get choked up at a movie or book. But, this one choaked me up.
Sorry, hope you don't mind my barging into this conversation.

I'm at 69% now.
Thanks for reminding me about the Communist thing. Yes, I do recall that there was the mention of Liesel's parents being accused to being a Communist. But then I'm still puzzled by why the German government would pay foster parents to care for children of Communists. Unless, that those children are viewed as being "curable" or "reformable" (I can't think of a better word), as opposed to the Jews, whose children can't be "cured" of being Jewish.
Anyways, that's kind of a minor quibble, and I don't really want the conversation to get side tracked into that.
I think overall, my impression of the book has largely remained the same as my first impression, which is: I find the story interesting enough to hold my attention, it is not dull, it is not boring, but at the same time, I'm still trying to figure out why it is so highly regarded. Perhaps the problem is that I went into the book with high expectations, as it seems like everyone loves it. And well, at least for me so far, it's not living up to the hype. I don't have any problems with it, but I'm not finding anything outstanding either. The only thing is that I'm hopeful that perhaps its the ending that will make it spectacular.
I like all the characters well enough, but I can't say that I'm in love with any of them. Of course, Papa, Liesel, Mama, and Max are all very likeable characters. But I don't find myself attached to any of them. I'd say my favorite character so far is Rudy. The characters are all very one-dimensional to me, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. I think a great story can have all one-dimensional characters, but there has to then be something else to make it great. And, so far, I am not seeing what makes this book so great.
There are tons and tons of books on WWII and WWII suffering, so there needs to be something special to make a WWII book stand out. And while I guess having death as the narrator might be a unique feature, I personally found death as the narrator a little weird and off putting. He (I assume it's a he, though I don't remember if there is any gender reference) puts distance between the characters and the reader. He makes it seem like you are viewing their lives from above. And this distance translates to the reader, i.e., me. So, I feel distant from the characters and not as if I am in their shoes, which is where I prefer to be.

The thing about reading a book that has been hyped has always been weird for me. To read books recommended to me by a friend, colleague or family member can be strange too - since the one recommending it most likely wants to share a wonderful reading experience with someone. So if, after having read the book in question, you're not wowed by it... High expectations can ruin even the best of books, in my opinion.
I finished the book tonight and I think I quite liked it, even though having Death telling the story made me feeel just like Viola mentioned.. a bit distanced from the scenes. The story and the people grew on me more and more though, and towards the end I felt quite attached to some of the characters despite the distance.
I do like that the World War II story is told from a perspective that shows German people as real people, and not just a people of hateful nazi's. If there had been more stories like this told years and years ago, I am positive more old people (70+) in my society would have a better viiew on people from Germany.


I think that as the story progresses, it gets much more engaging and intense. I don't know how to say this without being a real downer, but when everything was just happy and normal in the story, I kept saying to myself, "so what?" But when things become darker and more ominous things begin happening, then the book became more interesting to me. Does that make me a sort of novel masochist? Bad things had to happen for this book to be interesting. I feel awful saying it.
@Kristina -- I think you bring an interesting perspective in terms of the old people of your society who dislike Germans. I don't have that perspective at all. I think Americans were much more shielded and protected from the real horrors of WWII. I don't have the perception that anyone here immediately associates anyone German with the Nazis.
I guess to me, and maybe this is just me, a story of WWII through the eyes of the Germans, who also suffered doesn't strike me as all that eye-opening or as a unique perspective. I just assume that they too suffered, because everyone suffers in a war.
@Irene -- I've come to find Papa to be a very rich character. I like him quite a lot as a character that is nicely developed. And I've come to like Liesel more and think that her character does develop as the story progresses, although not in the way that I expected her to develop.
Lastly, I've figured out why I like Rudy. Haha. In some ways, he reminds me of my husband. There was a line I highlighted towards the beginning of the book about Rudy:
"The only thing worse than
A boy who hates you
A boy who loves you."
This is completely my husband. He is still that sort of boy.



My favorite characters were the foster father, Papa (Is that what he was called? I had a Swedish copy). I liked his mentality and way of life. And if the foster mother hadn´'t been all bad mouth all the time, I would've liked her better as well, I believe. And of course, Liesel - I think I could see my early childhood self in her quite a lot, in both good and bad ways. What were your favorite characters, Viola?

The thing about reading a book that has been hyped has always been weird for ..."
Have you ever read
Those Who Save Us by Jenna Blum. That too is written from German perspective and it is a GREAT book.


I think the hardest part when I reread this book earlier this year was that I noticed an awfully long time passes between Leisel stealing her earliest books. Later she gets much faster about it, but she has an easier supply.


I actually didn't care for Liesel too much. I didn't really relate to her. She was okay. No reason to dislike her. But I just never felt a strong connection with her.


I don't want to ruin it for anyone else so I ll wait.
We should also agree on a reading schedule. As the book seems to be divided in several parts, about 10 or so, maybe we could choose to read a few parts per week at least?