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that is interesting Bentley, thanks for letting us know about it. I'll have to watch the movie.
It won best picture; I am going to have to reread it I think. If anyone knows of Herodotus being used in other works, by all means point them out and I will set up a thread in order to see what the impact was to the themes of these books and the relationship to The Histories itself.
Vanessa, let us know what you discover.
Vanessa, let us know what you discover.
Well, I'm trying to watch it but I can't. Twelve years ago I had deep second degree burns on my thigh from dropping a cup of tea. I wound up in the hospital for a week on antibiotics as I got blood poisoning. Watching him in that bed is too much! I might let my husband watch it and he can tell me where H is discussed!
Ouch! I feel your pain!
When i went to the hospital no one could believe that a cup of tea could do such damage. A burn is a different kind of injury, isn't it?
I could not go near a cup of tea for years and years.
On an historical note, we visited Plimouth Plantation a couple of years later. I was not surprised when we were told that something like l0% of women died from burns. Their dresses would catch fire while cooking at the fireplaces and when infection set in, that was it.
I'm curious, how is it that you did not have serious burns?
When i went to the hospital no one could believe that a cup of tea could do such damage. A burn is a different kind of injury, isn't it?
I could not go near a cup of tea for years and years.
On an historical note, we visited Plimouth Plantation a couple of years later. I was not surprised when we were told that something like l0% of women died from burns. Their dresses would catch fire while cooking at the fireplaces and when infection set in, that was it.
I'm curious, how is it that you did not have serious burns?
He does improve if that helps Vanessa. And I am sorry for both of your burns. Just think that actor Vanessa was never burned at all. That should help.
Folks,
For those of you interested in The English Patient; it was a novel first by Michael Ondaatje first which later became a movie. It won the Man Booker Prize for literature. For those of you who may be confused now since there was mention of the movie above and burns; the novel The English Patient, probably demands much of its readers-but just like Rapuscinski's memoir it was another homage to Herodotus. For those of us who are reading The English Patient or would like to; Herodotus' Histories is the only possession of Ondaatje's central figure, a badly-burned, amnesiac patient, and The Histories provides the inspiration for both his character and also for the novel.
That is why we are featuring it as well. If you get to see the movie that is OK; but I think the novel is the most moving place to start. Just thought that I would add this update.
Bentley
For those of you interested in The English Patient; it was a novel first by Michael Ondaatje first which later became a movie. It won the Man Booker Prize for literature. For those of you who may be confused now since there was mention of the movie above and burns; the novel The English Patient, probably demands much of its readers-but just like Rapuscinski's memoir it was another homage to Herodotus. For those of us who are reading The English Patient or would like to; Herodotus' Histories is the only possession of Ondaatje's central figure, a badly-burned, amnesiac patient, and The Histories provides the inspiration for both his character and also for the novel.
That is why we are featuring it as well. If you get to see the movie that is OK; but I think the novel is the most moving place to start. Just thought that I would add this update.
Bentley
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OK, your mom took good care of you. I, OTH, ignored the burns. I called the emergency room and described what had happened and they said to come in if I got feverish. So for two days I did laundry and cleaned and cooked and acted as though nothing had happened. And then i got feverish! When I came in the nurse's eyes bugged out. 4% of my body was burned, I was on the verge of passing out and the dr. said I had to stay in the hospital. Had I gone in right away I would have avoided all of that. I don't have scarring either.
OK, your mom took good care of you. I, OTH, ignored the burns. I called the emergency room and described what had happened and they said to come in if I got feverish. So for two days I did laundry and cleaned and cooked and acted as though nothing had happened. And then i got feverish! When I came in the nurse's eyes bugged out. 4% of my body was burned, I was on the verge of passing out and the dr. said I had to stay in the hospital. Had I gone in right away I would have avoided all of that. I don't have scarring either.
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Thanks Bentley. I keep trying to think that he's just acting but every time he cringes I remember what that felt like. I keep fast-forwarding but then I miss the story and the book! Maybe I can do it tomorrow!
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The movie actually came out right after I got out of the hospital. Everyone was asking if I was going to see it and of course I wouldn't consider it. But all of these years later I thought it would be ok.
Thanks Bentley. I keep trying to think that he's just acting but every time he cringes I remember what that felt like. I keep fast-forwarding but then I miss the story and the book! Maybe I can do it tomorrow!
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The movie actually came out right after I got out of the hospital. Everyone was asking if I was going to see it and of course I wouldn't consider it. But all of these years later I thought it would be ok.
BTW, I hadn't realized it was a book!!!
Yes, an award winning book which was then made into a movie. The book might not upset you in the same way.
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I'm so glad I still have not returned the DVD. You've convinced me to give it another try. It sounds wonderful.
Antoine, you have an insightful mind and a wonderful way of expressing your ideas.
I'm so glad I still have not returned the DVD. You've convinced me to give it another try. It sounds wonderful.
Antoine, you have an insightful mind and a wonderful way of expressing your ideas.
Response to Antoine:
Yes, you remember the movie well...liked Juliette Binoche in her role. Yes, Herodotus' The Histories was the book carried by the English Patient (Ralph Fiennes).
Yes, you remember the movie well...liked Juliette Binoche in her role. Yes, Herodotus' The Histories was the book carried by the English Patient (Ralph Fiennes).

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THE ENGLISH PATIENT is another book which uses The Histories by Herodotus prominently. The English Patient himself is the one who has carried this work with him.
This thread is set up to discuss the relationship that the book by Herodotus had to the characters and the themes in this work.
This is not a no spoiler thread.
Bentley