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message 1: by Kane (new)

Kane Faucher (docx) | 7 comments This place is an excellent resource and database of Canadian authors, their books, and various awards. It's run by two people, I believe, and they are to be lauded for their hard work!

http://www.canadianauthors.net/


message 2: by A.J. (new)

A.J. The problem with that site is that it's incomplete, which comes with the territory: when nobody's paying you, you can only put in so much time. So it's a nice site, but not a one=stop reference to the world of Canadian writing.

This one is more complete:
http://canadianbookshelf.com/


message 3: by Kane (new)

Kane Faucher (docx) | 7 comments Good point. I do hope they soldier on with this project. But even the slick and comprehensive Canadian Bookshelf has a few author listings MIA.


message 4: by The 49th Shelf (new)

The 49th Shelf (49thShelf) | 3 comments Thanks for the recommendation A.J., glad you like the site!

We have about 35,000 books on the site today. This is the largest public-facing listing of Canadian-authored books ever assembled but we understand that it's not yet complete. We believe the real population of currently available, Canadian-authored books is closer to 50,000 (or more) and so we're still in active development and working hard to build the range and depth of title listings across the site.

Kane, if there are specific authors that you're looking for on the site, please let us know by reporting the missing author here: http://canadianbookshelf.com/contact/... so that we can track the authors down and add them to the site.


message 5: by Paul (new)

Paul Marlowe There's a LOT of books missing from canadianbookshelf.com. As I heard it, only publishers that submit data to Booknet Canada get books listed on CDN Bookshelf, so some publishers will have only some of their books listed, some won't be there at all, and if a Canadian author is published by a foreign publisher they're not likely to be on the site. Since it's produced by the Association of Canadian Publishers, it doesn't seem likely that there will be a lot of incentive to expand the site beyond the frontlist catalogues of that organization's members.

If you're after information about writers, there's loads of it in Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category...


message 6: by Michael (new)

Michael Poeltl (mikepoeltl) Good information, I see I'm not listed among the Canadian authors on either of these sites and have contacted them.
Thanks.
The Judas Syndrome
Rebirth


message 7: by A.J. (new)

A.J. There are a pile of Canadian writers missing from Wikipedia, Paul. I can easily come up with a dozen names that are in canadianbookshelf.com but missing from Wikipedia.

Wikipedia is woefully incomplete. Authors generally appear there only if they are (a) well known, (b) have just been nominated for a major award, or (c) have entered themselves into Wikipedia as part of their self-promotional efforts.


message 8: by The 49th Shelf (new)

The 49th Shelf (49thShelf) | 3 comments Hi Paul,

The title listings on Canadian Bookshelf are based on publisher-supplied data for each book. This information is exchanged using a book industry data standard called ONIX and aggregated within a national database of book information called BiblioShare (developed by BookNet Canada).

Our goal is to list all Canadian books--of every kind from every publisher--and the site is open to all Canadian-authored books in any category and from any publisher in Canada or abroad, including self-published titles. As you point out, Canadian Bookshelf is produced by the Association of Canadian Publishers. However, the Canadian Publishers’ Council, an association that counts the multinational publishing houses in Canada among its membership, is a partner in the project as well.

We have about 40,000 books on the site today. This is the largest public-facing listing of Canadian-authored books ever assembled but we understand that it's not yet complete. We believe the real population of currently available, Canadian-authored books is closer to 50,000 (or more) and so we're still working hard to build the quality and depth of title listings across the site.

There is no charge to authors or publishers to have their books included in BiblioShare or listed on Canadian Bookshelf and we've been calling for data from publishers across the country for the last year to try and build the most complete listing of Canadian books possible. For us, this includes new books but also all other Canadian-authored books in each publisher's catalogue, including books that are currently out of print.

Part of our challenge is that some publishing houses are still working on building or expanding their data files so that they can better share information about their books online. In other cases, publishers have the capability to send this kind of data but haven't yet fully finalized and/or transferred their files. These are basically the factors that are limiting us in establishing a much more complete listing on the site at this point.

For the moment, we have launched the site as a public beta, partly to reflect the reality that we are still actively developing various features and components around the platform and also in an effort to be transparent with users on the question of the title listings--and on the fact that we are still building those listings today. You'll see this orientation, for example, on the "missing title" report linked throughout the site: http://canadianbookshelf.com/contact/....

Feel free to send me a message if you have any more questions.

All the best,
Crissy


message 9: by Paul (new)

Paul Marlowe A.J. wrote: "There are a pile of Canadian writers missing from Wikipedia, Paul. I can easily come up with a dozen names that are in canadianbookshelf.com but missing from Wikipedia. Wikipedia is woefully incomplete..."

Sure, and I bet the reverse is true too, but if anyone wants to add a missing author to Wikipedia they can do it in about 5 minutes. They can't do that on canadianbookshelf.com - a publisher has to do it by sending highly-formatted data to Booknet Canada. And in the end, that's just a limited range of data. If you want a lot of biographical details, it's not going to be there. And an author with ten publishers is likely to have a widely varying range of data quality on canadianbookshelf.com because each publisher will send (or not send) data as they wish. There are authors with multiple listings on canadianbookshelf.com because publishers have submitted data with different versions of their name - and there's no way to correct it and merge the data on their books so that it all shows under one name.


message 10: by A.J. (last edited Aug 30, 2011 05:53PM) (new)

A.J. This is about readers. A "one-stop roundup of Canadian authors" does not exist for the convenience of people who have written a book and now want other people to read it, nor does it exist as a sop to authors' egos, a place for them to preen while affectionately regarding their virtual selves.

It does not matter, then, whether you can add an author to Wikipedia in five minutes, because readers seeking out new books and authors are not interested in doing that. They are looking to find information, not to provide it. No one is overseeing Wikipedia's list of Canadian writers, and not enough people care, so the list is forever incomplete and inconsistent -- and biographical details are sorely lacking from most of the entries that do exist.

Canadian Bookshelf does not have a complete list of Canadian writers -- no resource ever will. It is, however, a far more complete and useful list than Wikipedia, because someone is actually dedicated to making it as complete as possible. It also offers readers several ways to browse and to find books and authors that interest them.

If you're absent from Canadian Bookshelf -- yes, Paul, your motives for slagging the site are painfully obvious -- then I'd suggest working with them to add the listing is probably a good idea.


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