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Torie I love the rich characterization of these books. They all have distinct personalities and for the most part, are endearing and well thought out. I also love how she braids different storylines within each other and the entire plot idea of having the undead come out of the coffin, and how society deals and adapts to that.

I hate Sookie's word of the day calendar--how Harris CONSTANTLY needs to assure the reader how smart Sookie is even though she didn't have a college education. I'm also growing incredibly sad at how the last few books have turned out! Have you noticed Harris slowly winding it up? And Sookie has failed to go on any real adventures lately. :(


Farrah I really enjoyed these books. The eleventh was the worst! It's funny you mention teh word of the day calendar. Everytime I read that in one of the books, my first thought was, Hey I need to get one of those calendars.
But Harris does do things in the series that get to be annoying. Repetition and redundancy are my pet peeves.


Torie HA! Maybe Harris is doing product placement?


AlbertaJenn I love how the books started out. They were fun, quirky, with much less sex than they do now.

What I don't like is how the series has changed in the last 4 books. Harris has lost her focus, and she has changed Sookie into a bit of a slut. Not what I signed up for in the beginning.


Charity Parkerson I love that Harris has the ability to make you feel what Sookie feels. I hate that since there has never been a friend that turned out to actually be a friend I don't trust anyone anymore. The last book I went to bed so brokenhearted after reading it. I'm starting to wonder if there will be a happy ending for Sookie. Harris is not known for letting her characters have a happily ever after.


Diane sookie is a survivor, if nothing else, though i think you all are right about this series winding up, and especially with sookie not ending up with eric, unfortunately. but i kind of disagree with charity about harris's characters not having happy endings--lily in the shakespeare series had a very rough start but did end up with her true love, and aurora teagarden in her series loved and lost but ended up with her first love and pregnant to boot.


Charity Parkerson I guess I should have said, a traditional happy ending :)
I feel like after so many books and time invested I can't help but to feel as if Sookie should have the rainbows and wedding bells happily ever after. In both the series with Lily and Aurora I felt more bitter-sweet over their happily-ever-afters.


Lena I like the trashy factor, that Sookie isn't all rich and smooth but kinda trailer-park. She's not the cookie-cutter heroine.

I don't like that Harris is not a very consistent writer, which bothers me a lot...some people are different in just about every book (Alcide) so you never know exactly what they are like.


Charity Parkerson I think she will end up with Sam. He is the steady guy that has stood with her through the years, but I don't have to like it. I want Eric, I want him to fight for Sookie the way she deserves!


Carly I completely agree that there is so much more sex in the latest novels. The last one was borderline porn. Alcide was so sexy in the first novel in which he was mentioned. Author does repeat her favorite words often.


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Torie I loved Alcide in his first appearance! But when he appeared in Dead Reckoning , I was kind of like, "Dude...what the hell are you doing here?" I didn't really fancy Quinn, so was happy when they threw him out. And I agree about the kind of unsteady characterization of a few characters. Bill was talking like Eric in the last book and Eric has lost his wit and charm. I think it's because Harris is becoming a little too concerned with quantity rather than quality. She's cranking out books every year instead of giving each book the careful thought and treatment it deserves. Miss the adventures of Sookie! All she does now is drink iced tea and shag on her porch. :(


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Denise Rago I love Eric and Pam, Lafayette and Sam. The story lines get too mixed up for me at times and there seems to be a loss of focus.


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Lena Carly wrote: "I completely agree that there is so much more sex in the latest novels. The last one was borderline porn. Alcide was so sexy in the first novel in which he was mentioned. Author does repeat her f..."

Really? After book 4, I hardly remember any sex, def. not memorable or explicit. I haven't read the latest yet, but I heard there wasn't much in it, either.

I do agree about Alcide. It was weird how he was such a great guy and then the next book he was a total ass for no reason.


Torie Whaaaat? There are barely any sex scenes as of late. And if there are, it's basically as follows, "He ravaged me on the porch. Afterwards, we snuggled." The scenes are short and barely take up any space in the books. In the recent ones, she shags once or twice, and then spends the rest of the day watching tv and cleaning her house.


Courtney I really liked the first few books. They felt very original and I liked the adventures that Sookie went on. However, once I got to the 4th or 5th book (I stopped reading them after after the 5th or 6th so feel free to let me know if I'm wrong) I felt like they became very repetitive. Harris seemed to have lost all focus on what she was writing about and where she wanted her story to go. I feel like I totally lost interest in the development of the characters (which I think is why I stopped reading them in general).
I really liked the series because Sookie was very down to earth, and she didn't have everything going for her like you sometimes find with some heroines. She is very average and you could actually see yourself being her and making some of flawed choices she does. She isn't overly brave and there are times when she could be seen as too proud. I liked the first few books mostly because of her, and then she seemed to become snotty or something and I lost interest.


message 16: by William (last edited Jul 26, 2011 03:04PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

William Sookie Stackhouse will always be one of my favorite series, so to me, there isn't that much NOT to like. I love how Sookie doesn't care what other people think about her, and that she is strong and witty, granted she can be a tad trashy, she is generally a pretty classy girl. The only thing I dont really like is how Dead and Gone, Dead in the Family, and Dead Reckoning have focused more on the fae.


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Mae I really love the Southern Vampire series. There are a few things that really bug me though.
For instance, Dead Reckoning didn't seem to have much of a plot to it, not much seemed to be happening...like it was a transition.
I'd like to have seen Alcide become a love interest, now I don't think it would work but back then it would have.
I wish Lafayette had lived, I'm glad they kept him in the show.
I don't like the fae part of the books. I'm not really sure why but maybe it just seems to be dragging on?
I loved Charlaine Harris' humor but for some reason she's gotten less funny, maybe she's in too much of a hurry?
I also think she should end up with Sam. He understands her, he's nice, he's a gentleman, he doesn't have danger around every corner and he's right there, always there.


Nurlely I love the series, at least until book 10. Book 11 is a let down and I am so upset with the plot. It leads to nothing but square one. It makes me think that CH is tired of the series or playing with the fans. My favourite is book 4. And since I love Eric, book 9 is also my fave.


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no It started out like a new love for me. I was addicted to these books! Then the last one... It left me so mad. I haven't been this disgusted with a book since I attempted to read Breaking Dawn. Awful.

It's like she gave up somehow. Too many plots in one book, and not enough explaining. It's just tired now. When I read the last book, I was like this is so predictable. A break in? Someone trying to kill her? Eric being a jerk now? All so predictable. But the worst part is how you fall in love with these characters and they do a 180 and you're left startled. It'll be a quick change that no amounts of chapters can explain.

I love how the books are set in the South. I love her witty humor and descriptions. I'm just sad at the last few plots. It's like she's trying to wrap it up neatly really fast but didn't think it through.

I guess what I'm saying is, it's like a modern lover story. It was so loving in the beginning. But the last book had me wondering why I loved these books so much. I fell out of love and that broke my heart. I still adore the other books. Just not the last few.


Johnna Sookie has in no way turned into a slut! I mean, 3 men in how many books? Really? I think the next book will be better plot wise, at least I hope it will.


Tasula In the TV series, Lafayette was the best character, great actor, great body, great role. What I hated_ all the other men looked dirty and/or skinny - Eric was the best of the lot (next to Lafayette), and even he looked like he could use a bath. I really hated the Tara character and all the soap opera wit her mother. Also hated Jason's flowerchild girlfriend- was thriled when she was killed, but it wasn't painful enough for her. And the wussiness of both Bill and Eric trying to deal with the new young vamp- disgusting.


Torie Johnna wrote: "Sookie has in no way turned into a slut! I mean, 3 men in how many books? Really? I think the next book will be better plot wise, at least I hope it will."

Yeah, I don't get why people are saying she's become one? It's not as if she's flitting from guy to guy. She stays with one, and then just shags a lot.


Donna My least favorite thing? I'm beginning to believe Sookie doesn't really deserve the men in her life. She's relegated Sam to buddy hell, when he's probably the best man for her. No amount of contrition or devotion gets Bill any credit. Quinn gets cut off completely for putting his crazy family issues ahead of poor, poor Sookie - for the moment. I have a mentally ill godson; he has a crisis, we deal, then we return to normal life. Yes, I put him ahead of other completely competent adults in my life when that happens. I thought that was pretty effing small of her - especially since we all know she'd have dropped any man if her late lamented Granny had needed her. As for Eric, well, I've never been a fan, but even he gets short shrift this last round. Whether he deserved it or not remains to be seen.
What I like? At some point I'm gonna laugh out loud.


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Shaunna McLaren I do love the books, but the repetition got to me after a while. I haven't read the most recent one, because they were getting a bit too same-y for me, in a sense.


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Matt My favourite part of the Sookie series would have to be the vampires. I made the mistake of reading Twilight before this series so when I got into Sookie I was so thankful that they were not moody teenagers. Harris' vampires are at least dangerous, kill people and don't sparkle in the sun.

My least favourite parts would have to be anything with the Fae. I signed on for a series about vampires. I could handle the werewolves and could even stomach the shifters, but I draw the line at the Fairies. Its not so much that the fairies are out of place, I mean these are supernatural novels, but the plots are so drawn out and boring. Dare I say that they are even pointless.


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Tome Trinket I watched the first season of True Blood, it was one of those series that you just have to watch even if you hate nearly all of it. Then I decided that the book must be better, like they always are. But dear God how wrong I was.

I couldn't believe that Sookie can be more annoying in the book than in the series, I thought that impossible. I don't like Bill, or Sam, or Tara...well actually, I only like Eric and Pam. I'm a huge vampire fan, and the fan inside me weeps miserably every time I see an "ugly" vampire, perfect examples being Twilight and Sookie series vamps. What happened to the good ol' Dracula style or Anne Rice style?


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J.D. Field I've read the 1st one and I liked it. S S is a different kind fo heroine. A bit of fire...


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J.D. Field And now I'm on the second one and I'm not feeling it so much. I guess there's only so far that I can be drawn just by Sookie's character. The plot seems a bit ropey and it doesn't make sense all the time, and Harri's writing is, well, sometimes its just bad...


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P.A. Lupton I feel like the only person in the world who hates the Sookie Stackhouse novels. I read the first novel and part of the second, and although there are a few ideas that are fresh, I can't stand the characters. Also, I don't like the mood and settings, and to be honest she makes all of her characters seem like slow witted, back wood hicks.
I tried watching True Blood, again because of the reviews, and I have to admit it was marginally better than the books, but I still can't believe that people like it. First off, there is too much sex. I am not a prude, but I don't like the way it’s thrown into the show everywhere, even when unnecessary to the plot. Some parts were almost like watching porn i.e the town group orgies in the 2nd season.
I don’t even want to start on the ridiculous, gory way the characters die, with intestines flying and gore everywhere. And it’s not even consistent, when Godrich kills himself in the second season and turns into ash and floats away on the wind—what happened to the soupy goo that all of the other vampires exposed to sunlight turned into? I’ve only watched to the end of the second season, I figured I would give it a fair shot, but I can’t watch it any more.


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Lena Jdfield wrote: "And now I'm on the second one and I'm not feeling it so much. I guess there's only so far that I can be drawn just by Sookie's character. The plot seems a bit ropey and it doesn't make sense all th..."

yeah, that's true about the writing. If you don't like the first few, I doubt you'll like the rest. The series peaks at book 4 or 5 for most people, and it's downhill from there.


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Tome Trinket P.A. wrote: "I feel like the only person in the world who hates the Sookie Stackhouse novels. I read the first novel and part of the second, and although there are a few ideas that are fresh, I can't stand the characters. Also, I don't like the mood and settings, and to be honest she makes all of her characters seem like slow witted, back wood hicks...
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You're definitely not alone. I feel pretty much the same way. All the HBO series seem to have a sex credit they need to fill in every episode. I do love HBO though, except True Blood. It's just something I have to watch cos I'm curious as to what on earth the SS series come up next. While I'm watching the show, I keep thinking that "is there really a book out there that tells about this all and somebody actually likes to read it..."


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J.D. Field Did HBO create the wire? which i think is the most amazing thing i've ever seen on TV....


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J.D. Field P.A. wrote: "I feel like the only person in the world who hates the Sookie Stackhouse novels. I read the first novel and part of the second, and although there are a few ideas that are fresh, I can't stand the ..."

Reading the 2nd one has driven me a bit nutty. The bit at the very end, They find the evidence in the trunk of the car? Cos they drove around with it for weeks, waiting for this day? Ri... dic...u..lous


message 34: by Samantha (last edited Aug 19, 2011 02:11AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Samantha I have read all the books to date and whatched the series to I think Sookie in the tv series is cringe worthy at times but also I like how Bill in the tv series shows his emotions you get that he loves sookie and you get that he is jealous of her being with anyone else which you dont get from the books. I agree that the books have lost there way somewhat like the vampire diaries i think books are being written for writtings sake and not because there is a good story to tell. I am glad the series is coming to an end I think sookie will end up with Belleneos who she met in Dead Reckoning and I think sookie in the tv series will end up with Bill


Claire Carvell I totally agree with @courtney! They are good books but not keen on the fairy thing even though I love the idea! just seems alittle grabbing for something to put into the plot line. I haven't read the last few myself but will read them when I can get round t them. It just disheartens me at the route they have taken.


Torie I don't quite understand why people are predicting she'll end up with Bellenos. He was only in the book for a quick second, and from what I recall, he was hideous (or at least I imagined him to be). There didn't seem to be any romantic sparks, chemistry or attraction between the two. Tell me if I'm wrong though. I feel like I might just be out of the loop.


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Adria I do love the characters and the adventures they go on. But I agree CH does tend to repeat things a lot. And lately, since maybe book 6 and the whole "Quinn disaster" Sookie has been getting on my nerves. I didn't think book 11 was that great, but I think its just a filler, so she can set us up for whats going to happen in the next few books.


Susan Stec AlbertaJenn wrote: "I love how the books started out. They were fun, quirky, with much less sex than they do now.

What I don't like is how the series has changed in the last 4 books. Harris has lost her focus, and ..."


Are you talking about the books or True Blood? I don't think Harris has turned Sookie into a slut.


Susan Stec Charity wrote: "I think she will end up with Sam. He is the steady guy that has stood with her through the years, but I don't have to like it. I want Eric, I want him to fight for Sookie the way she deserves!"

I'd like to see Sookie with Alcide. Sam is such a friend - should stay one, Eric and Bill are loyal, but they're vampires and her blood is a big attraction, the power it gives. But I'm thinking, two more novels and that's all she'll write. Shame, love the series.


Susan Stec Torie wrote: "I loved Alcide in his first appearance! But when he appeared in Dead Reckoning , I was kind of like, "Dude...what the hell are you doing here?" I didn't really fancy Quinn, so was happy when the..."

I think Harris is tired, the True Blood series has changed her characters big time (not that I don't love the HBO series). Don't think she wants to go there in her novels, but may be under fan pressure to do so.

I love both, but separate the two as I read or watch.

Susan


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Adria Farrah wrote: "I really enjoyed these books. The eleventh was the worst! It's funny you mention teh word of the day calendar. Everytime I read that in one of the books, my first thought was, Hey I need to get one..."

I completely agree. I love this series but the last 2 books haven't been as fufilling. It does seem CH is running out of steam.


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