Ender's Jeesh discussion
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I know this group is "Ender's Jeesh" so I guess we're focused on OCS's most popular sci-fi series, but I'd like to get everyone's thoughts on OSC's other writings. To be honest, there are not many of his writings I don't like. Does anyone have opinions on his other books such as Songmaster, Wyrms, Enchantment, the Women in Genesis series, Magic Street, the Alvin Maker series, etc.?

Enchantment was fun, I think disney ripped off the OSC for the concept that they made into the movie Enchanted.
I haven't gotten into Women in Genesis series, but I did read Stone Tables.

I haven't read any others, but will be on the lookout for them.





Doug, maybe you are taking it too deep my young padawan. Maybe sometimes a writer just wants to write a story? Think about that?
OK...I must admit that Speaker is pretty deep when it comes to relationships with other cultures and what not. I mean I could go on forever. This is what I truly thought about the series so far:
1. Anti-Imperialism. After finishing Speaker for the Dead is quite clear that the humans are imperialistic. The piggies were meant to be controlled.
2. Anti-Pre-Emptive Strike. This comes natural becuase of the guilt that Ender feels for destroying the buggers. Because of what the humans didn't understand they wiped them from the universe.
3. Anti-Big Government. It's pretty scary how controlling the government is in the series. Who's to say that our government won't become what Ender had to deal with?
These are just some beginning thoughts. I'd love to hear from anyone else...especially you Doug!
PS. The Belgariad? Please...child's play.
OK...I must admit that Speaker is pretty deep when it comes to relationships with other cultures and what not. I mean I could go on forever. This is what I truly thought about the series so far:
1. Anti-Imperialism. After finishing Speaker for the Dead is quite clear that the humans are imperialistic. The piggies were meant to be controlled.
2. Anti-Pre-Emptive Strike. This comes natural becuase of the guilt that Ender feels for destroying the buggers. Because of what the humans didn't understand they wiped them from the universe.
3. Anti-Big Government. It's pretty scary how controlling the government is in the series. Who's to say that our government won't become what Ender had to deal with?
These are just some beginning thoughts. I'd love to hear from anyone else...especially you Doug!
PS. The Belgariad? Please...child's play.

Doug,
Ever heard of sarcasm? I thought I was laying it on pretty thick. I mean, it might be as deep as Crater Lake in Oregon for all we know! as for a better series? I think the cover of Live and Let Die speaks for itself.
Ever heard of sarcasm? I thought I was laying it on pretty thick. I mean, it might be as deep as Crater Lake in Oregon for all we know! as for a better series? I think the cover of Live and Let Die speaks for itself.


Two cents is better than no sense.


I love your post on Xenocide. Worst book ever? Really? That's harsh. But we must be honest with our emotions and true to the feelings that guide us in our lives. Did I like it? Let me just put it as eloquently as I can.
I have always been able to finish a book. Never in have I ever NOT been able to sit down and push through a book. I can even push myself through the Book of Isiah if I have to. However, after 125 pages (out of 350 or something like that) my wife had to restrain me from putting this book in our fireplace and burning any memory of it in our house.
I have always been able to finish a book. Never in have I ever NOT been able to sit down and push through a book. I can even push myself through the Book of Isiah if I have to. However, after 125 pages (out of 350 or something like that) my wife had to restrain me from putting this book in our fireplace and burning any memory of it in our house.

better? really? i'll have to look into that.

I think that the two best OSC books are Enchanted and Pastwatch: The Redemption of Christopher Columbus.
Enchanted is also one of the books that OSC claims as his best along with Magic Street (Which I didn't like as much).
Pastwatch is just an amazing Novel. It combines two of my favorite genres Historical Fiction and Science Fiction, if you want to read about what could have been this is a wonderful book to make you think. I did have trouble with the style of the writing. It almost felt like watching a documentary not watching a movie. Once I got past that I was really able to enjoy the book.
Enders Game is still one of my favorite as well. I would list those three as the best OSC books.
Enchanted is also one of the books that OSC claims as his best along with Magic Street (Which I didn't like as much).
Pastwatch is just an amazing Novel. It combines two of my favorite genres Historical Fiction and Science Fiction, if you want to read about what could have been this is a wonderful book to make you think. I did have trouble with the style of the writing. It almost felt like watching a documentary not watching a movie. Once I got past that I was really able to enjoy the book.
Enders Game is still one of my favorite as well. I would list those three as the best OSC books.




For the "Shadow" series I didn't like Ender's Shadow very much, but I thought Shadow of the Hegemon was really, really good.


But if I were to choose, it'll probably be Children of the Mind. It ties in the action and angstiness [if that's a word] of Ender's Game, and also the contemplative mood of Speaker for the Dead and Xenocide.


I know how you feel about Xenocide. Not that I didn't like it but it took me longer to read than any of the other ten that I read.


