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message 1: by Meghan (last edited Aug 25, 2016 12:55PM) (new)

Meghan Okay, totally unrelated to books (sorry Shannon), but related to the show...

Has anyone checked out the CW's new show "Aliens in America"? Scott Patterson plays the dad. Here's what it says about the show:

Justin Tolchuck (Dan Byrd, "The Hills Have Eyes") is a sensitive, lanky 16-year old just trying to make it through the social nightmare of high school in Medora, Wisconsin, with the help of his well-meaning mom Franny (Amy Pietz, "Caroline in the City"), aspiring-entrepreneur dad Gary (Scott Patterson, "Gilmore Girls") and his beautiful and popular younger sister Claire (Lindsey Shaw, "Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide"). Although he's bright and funny, Justin is also shy, socially awkward and pretty much resigned to the fact that he'll never be one of the cool kids. Franny, however, is the kind of take-charge mom who micro-manages her family, and she's come up with a plan to help Justin: she signs up for the school's international exchange student program. Picturing an athletic, brilliant Nordic teen, Franny is sure this new friendship will bestow instant coolness on her outsider son. However, when the Tolchuck's exchange student arrives, he turns out to be Raja Musharaff (Adhir Kalyan, "Fair City"), a 16-year-old Muslim from a small village in Pakistan. Raja is thoughtful, responsible and wise beyond his years. To the Tolchucks and everyone else in Medora, he's also just about as foreign as a foreigner can be. While the rest of the family is slightly freaked out by the Muslim in their midst, Gary is comforted by the fact that the host family receives a monthly check to help with expenses. This fits right in with Gary's money-making schemes, and when he sees how hard-working and respectful Raja is, he's totally on board. As for Claire, she's too busy with her friends and her new boyfriend to pay much attention to their houseguest, but Raja is smitten from the moment he first sees her. After the initial shock wears off, Justin is quickly won over by Raja's humor, gestures of friendship and by their common status as outsiders. Despite the cultural chasm between them, Justin and Raja develop an unlikely bond that just might allow them to navigate the minefield that is contemporary high school. It's going to be a very interesting year for Raja, Justin, his family and the entire population of Medora.


message 2: by whichwaydidshego, the sage of sass (last edited Aug 25, 2016 12:56PM) (new)

whichwaydidshego | 1996 comments Mod
Could be interesting, but it really can't logically last long as the exchange thing only lasts a maximum of a year... and they say as much in the lead.


message 3: by Meghan (last edited Aug 25, 2016 12:56PM) (new)

Meghan I know! Either the kid is going to be fantastic and they'll figure a way to keep him here in the States (surprise! he has a long lost uncle who will help him immigrate here) or it's a loophole to keep their options open to bring in new kids. Maybe they'll play musical "who's the new foreign exchange student" each season?


message 4: by Alison, the guru of grace (last edited Aug 25, 2016 12:56PM) (new)

Alison | 1282 comments Mod
Sounds like it could be good. I had heard about this show...that someone else was cast in Scott Patterson's role initially, then they reshot the pilot with SP as a replacement. Not sure why. Sounds interesting.


message 5: by Meghan (last edited Aug 25, 2016 12:56PM) (new)

Meghan I just read the Entertainment Weekly review of this show and they gave it a B+. They thought it was cute without being cheesy. I'm going to have to check it out now. They say the kids are great.

And that would make sense about SP. Everything I've read only mentions that he's the dad and the dad is a tightwad (raises llamas in the backyard for extra money). Sounds like his role hasn't really been thought through much. But it sounds like a good role for him. Luke, but married.


message 6: by Alison, the guru of grace (last edited Aug 25, 2016 12:57PM) (new)

Alison | 1282 comments Mod
I can't imagine SP wearing anything other than a hat and a flannel shirt.


message 7: by Meghan (last edited Aug 25, 2016 12:58PM) (new)

Meghan I know! When he started dressing up (sans hat) for various parties with Lorelai it kind of weirded me out. We shouldn't see ALL his hair. heh


message 8: by Shannon, the founder of fun (back from sabbatical) (last edited Aug 25, 2016 01:01PM) (new)

Shannon | 254 comments Mod
I've heard various things about this show - although I haven't checked it out yet. It's going to be weird seeing Luke in another tv show. A couple other people have new shows too.


message 9: by Meghan (last edited Aug 25, 2016 01:19PM) (new)

Meghan I didn't know where to post this, so I figured this was a good a place as any...

Anyways, I'm reading all my back issues of EW (entertainment weekly--my guilty pleasure) now that I'm back in the States and I ran across the Harry Potter Book 7 issue. Anyway, there was a Luke factoid in it that I thought was kind of funny. In the time line they mention that on GG's episode on April 25, 2006, Luke gets called Hagrid for being so hairy. I don't remember the episode, but I thought that was kind of funny.

I miss all those pop culture references AP would throw in all the episodes. It's what made this show so great.


message 10: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) Luke Alert!

In the Will & Grace episode where Grace wears the hydra-bra, Scott Patterson plays the guy who Grace is trying to impress.


message 11: by Arctic (new)

Arctic | 571 comments Apparently imdb says he's in Saw IV and V also. Not much into the Saw series myself, but it might interest others.

He deserves a lead role in good romcom movie. I'd definitely watch that, though maybe it's not something he's interested in doing.

I miss Luke.


message 12: by whichwaydidshego, the sage of sass (new)

whichwaydidshego | 1996 comments Mod
Hee, Heather! You say you miss Luke and all these great quirky and romantic things about him pop in my head and suddenly I'm missing him, too.


message 13: by Alissa (new)

Alissa | 1 comments Aliens in America has been a great new find for this TV season. Luke has traded his flannel shirts and hat for Packers sweatshirts and hats...which he wears in just about every episode. I was born and raised in Wisconsin, so I think it's a nice touch. (When he's not wearing Packers gear, he'll throw on a Badgers shirt. Go Bucky!) I don't know what they'll do after the exchange year is over, but the cast now has good chemistry.


message 14: by Ryara (new)

Ryara Toft OMG my mom has a shirt that has the luke's diner logo on it!


message 15: by whichwaydidshego, the sage of sass (new)

whichwaydidshego | 1996 comments Mod
Okay, that'd be kinda cool to have that shirt. I mean, it's not so direct as to say "GG" on it, so if someone recognizes it you know they've watched the show. Nice one, George's mom!


message 16: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) Can I have one that has the Kirk's Diner logo?


message 17: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen Just to comment about the shirts...maybe you guys already know this but cafepress.com has many, many shirts on Gilmore Girls! Including Luke's Diner logo, Oy with the poodles already and all the other quirky sayings ob shirts, pins, bags and mugs. Thought it would help!


message 18: by Shari (new)

Shari Straight (sharistraight) But the actual saying is: "Oy to the vey with the poodles already!"


message 19: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) Shari, it is? Because that's not what Lorelai said. It has a nice cadence, though.


message 20: by Dottie (last edited Apr 04, 2008 02:55PM) (new)

Dottie  (oxymoronid) | 698 comments Sarah -- I think you are correct that Lorelai actually says "Oy with the poodles already!"

Shari -- Sookie -- or was it Miss Patty? -- at one point says "Oy to the vey" while she crosses herself as Catholics do. Which leads one to ponder which of the two religions would get the most upset over that combo of the mangled Jewish/Yiddish saying (Oy vey is the actual phrase) with the Catholic gesture.

BUT this non-Jewish, non-Catholic person cracked up at that one and I even tend to say and do that one at times -- though I'm very careful when and where. It's definitely a very inside Gilmore Girls thing I believe.


message 21: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) Dottie, I don't remember that, but it sounds more like something Miss Patty would do. But I don't know for sure.

Yeah, Lorelai definitely says "Oy with the poodles already." And I think it's "oy" as in the Yiddish expression, not "oi" as in the British expression. But she said it and didn't write it, so who knows? Or maybe it's like "gray" and "grey" and both are correct?

Thanks for telling us about the cafepress.com stuff, Kathleen. There's some really great stuff there! Haven't seen a Kirk's Diner logo, but I do like the "monkey monkey underpants," the "Where have all the anvils gone?" and the "People are especially stupid today. I cannot talk to any more of them."


message 22: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) This is bad. I want to buy, like, 25 T-shirts.


message 23: by whichwaydidshego, the sage of sass (new)

whichwaydidshego | 1996 comments Mod
I dated and lived with a Jewish guy and he, his family, and his Jewish friends seemed always to spell it "Oi" not "Oy" so maybe it varies within different segments of Yiddish & Hebrew speakers. Or maybe that's the difference - Yiddish vs. Hebrew speakers. I see you guys spell it the other way, but it just never occurs to me because of my interactions with them.


message 24: by Dottie (new)

Dottie  (oxymoronid) | 698 comments It may depend which other language they came from as far as country of origins also -- just a thought. I really don't know.


message 25: by Sarah (new)

Sarah (songgirl7) Wow, this is an old discussion.


message 26: by whichwaydidshego, the sage of sass (new)

whichwaydidshego | 1996 comments Mod
Is that a bad thing?


message 27: by Dottie (new)

Dottie  (oxymoronid) | 698 comments It's only from last month -- not so very long ago.


message 28: by Shaindel (new)

Shaindel | 54 comments Okay, Shaindel Rebekah Beers (how Jewish is THAT?) to the rescue here. Traditionally, Hebrew had no symbols for vowels, and when the Hebrew alphabet is used to write Yiddish, different consonants stand for different vowels.

So, my name can be spelled Shaindel (the way I spell it), Shayndel, Sheindel, Sheyndel... Basically, any vowels that would make those sounds.

I hope this helps. I'm sure someone fluent in Hebrew/Yiddish would have a better answer, but that's my rudimentary understanding.


message 29: by whichwaydidshego, the sage of sass (new)

whichwaydidshego | 1996 comments Mod
Good call. I knew that but hadn't thought about it for "Oi."


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