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message 1: by Lizzy (new)

Lizzy | 129 comments I have to write a debate on the Death Penalty and I'm supposed to be for it. Anyone have any good arguments?


message 2: by Brittomart (new)

Brittomart What's your argument?


message 3: by Lizzy (new)

Lizzy | 129 comments The Death Penalty is necessary in society


Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments I am anti-death penalty. I don't think killing is an appropriate response when the law says NOT to kill. It's hypocritical, and inhumane.
And I've seen too many cases where new evidence appeared that exonerated prisoners on death row.

That said, here are some arguments FOR the death penalty:

1. Deterrent to other possible criminals, as a warning.
2. Severity of crime warrants death, such as in serial killings.
3. Death penalty removes the possibility of the criminal ever getting out, on parole or escaping, and being a danger to society again.


message 5: by Lizzy (new)

Lizzy | 129 comments Okay that works, but do you have any call to action stuff? I have to have a certain amount of quotes in my debate and i need 4 call to action butt I can't find any.


message 6: by Jackie "the Librarian" (last edited Apr 20, 2011 09:43PM) (new)

Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments I'm not sure what "call to action" means, Lizzy. And I (being a librarian) am more inclined to point you to information and let you find what you need, yourself. :)

Here's a couple of sites that can give you tons of information about arguments both pro and con about the death penalty, or capital punishment, issue, Lizzy:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/exe...

http://deathpenaltycurriculum.org/


message 7: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24816 comments Mod
Arguments against:

1. The risk of executing innocent people is too high. There is a LOT of evidence that we have already done so. Do we want to be the kind of society that executes the innocent, by mistake?

2. The costs of keeping a prisoner on death row are often higher than life imprisonment, because there are so many automatic legal procedures that kick in, like the appeals that go on for years.

Oh, oops! You're supposed to be for it.

1. The costs of keeping prisoners behind bars for life are onerous to society. Think about it! Killers getting free health care, when so many law-abiding Americans go without. Sometimes they get college degrees in prison. This is not fair to people who are paying $30,000/year to attend online universities, and then they find out their programs weren't even accredited.

2. It provides a necessary market for the pharmaceutical companies who manufacture the lethal death penalty injection.

3. Politicians need ways to appear tough on crime. Being pro-death penalty allows them to appear so, and helps win elections. If the death penalty were abolished, many judges who sit on death penalty review panels would have to find something else to do, and that would be stressful.


Jackie "the Librarian" | 8991 comments You've got contradictory arguments there, LG! Your first #2 trumps your second #1. :)

I love your argument on behalf of the pharmaceutical companies. Yes, that's a WONDERFUL reason to execute prisoners, to make MORE MONEY for Big Pharma!
And oh, my, is your last argument cynical! I like it. :)


message 9: by Lobstergirl, el principe (new)

Lobstergirl | 24816 comments Mod
You need to be able to argue out of both sides of your mouth...


message 10: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca White (rebecca_white) | 1027 comments Does it have to be worded as "neccessary?" I think that's a harder argument to make than that it's "justified."


message 11: by [deleted user] (new)

Lizzy wrote: "The Death Penalty is necessary in society"

I'd give you an "A" based on that alone.


message 12: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 13814 comments Lizzy, if you have to argue for, Lobstergirl's first argument is a really persuasive one. Keeping someone in jail for life is very expensive, and those figures are easy to use.


message 13: by Mary (new)

Mary (merrussell) I am against the death penalty. But for the sake of your debate-on the emotional side of things, at the risk of sounding simplistic-the person who committed the crime(murder)gets to live, while the victim he kills doesn't.


message 14: by Lizzy (new)

Lizzy | 129 comments Jackie "the Librarian" wrote: "I'm not sure what "call to action" means, Lizzy. And I (being a librarian) am more inclined to point you to information and let you find what you need, yourself. :)

Here's a couple of sites that..."

Cool thanks, we have to write arguements forr both sides so this should really help


message 15: by Lizzy (last edited Apr 21, 2011 10:07PM) (new)

Lizzy | 129 comments Rebecca wrote: "Does it have to be worded as "neccessary?" I think that's a harder argument to make than that it's "justified.""

I'm just the one debating it, if I got to pick the topic it would be more along the lines of "Why is human cloning a good idea?" I like that topic better, less depressing. I keep reading about all these people who caught on fire when they were in the electric chair. Lots of nightmares from that one.


message 16: by Lizzy (new)

Lizzy | 129 comments Mary wrote: "I am against the death penalty. But for the sake of your debate-on the emotional side of things, at the risk of sounding simplistic-the person who committed the crime(murder)gets to live, while the..."

Yeah i used that. Why does the the convict get the rights to life while the victim doesn't? If people are so set on protesting rights to life, they should protest for the lives of the victims being killed, though i'm still not a fan of the death penalty, i can see where both sides are coming from.


message 17: by Rachel (new)

Rachel | 1106 comments An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.


message 18: by Lizzy (new)

Lizzy | 129 comments Yay! I get to argue for con now so it's going to be a lot easier! Huzzah!


message 19: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11852 comments How is that easier? Removing scum is a positive to society. Why give them an extra chance to offend?


message 20: by [deleted user] (new)

Phil wrote: "How is that easier? Removing scum is a positive to society. Why give them an extra chance to offend?"

Amen, Phil. Think of it as culling the herd.


message 21: by Lizzy (new)

Lizzy | 129 comments Phil wrote: "How is that easier? Removing scum is a positive to society. Why give them an extra chance to offend?"

I know, but there are a lot more articles i can quote on the con side, so it's going to go by a lot faster and easier. Plus i can use amnesty International.


message 22: by Lizzy (new)

Lizzy | 129 comments I can still add stuff, We haven't started writting yet, just collecting quotes and analysis for the writting part. So I can add the repeat offender stuff, thanks.


message 23: by Lizzy (last edited Apr 25, 2011 08:21PM) (new)

Lizzy | 129 comments Nope, it doesn't bug me, but I have a feeling that you said this because I have a typo, it's the "writing" word in the other commentt thing, my laptop has sticky keys so sometimes it does tthat, mostly on t's, but yeah, sorry if it bugs you.


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