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message 1: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Read this article:

http://www.suntimes.com/4115230-417/l...

The live sex act featured a sex toy that was a modified version of a power tool known as a reciprocating saw, or Sawzall. The tool used at Northwestern featured a phallic attachment in place of the blade.

Anyway, I guess the session wasn't mandatory, but, um, I bet attendance was high...

What do you think?

Checks TC records to see who's been to Home Depot lately


message 2: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17333 comments Mod
This is weird. no place. But this reminds me of the scene in Life of Brian where the dad awkwardly (to say the least) demonstrates sex for his son.


message 3: by Brittomart (last edited Mar 04, 2011 06:26AM) (new)

Brittomart I don't know if that's progressive or what.

Wait a second, I've heard of showing porn in classes, and they didn't have a big uproar about that.

And I see what the students mean by like, "It's over" 'cause it probably is yesterday's news. And if it didn't bother them, then what's the problem? It was optional, after lecture, gave many warnings - if something like that happened here, I definitely would not go, but students had that choice. Is it illegal to have sex in public like that though? But they weren't having sex? I wish I knew more about the lesson he was trying to teach though...

Oh, and the guy in that picture looks a lot like Kevin.


message 4: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17333 comments Mod
Hah! He does not! Why, because he is white and somewhat baldish?


message 5: by Brittomart (last edited Mar 04, 2011 06:28AM) (new)

Brittomart Hey, no, because he looks like a Mr. Roger version of Kevin! Look at his eyes!


message 6: by RandomAnthony (last edited Mar 04, 2011 06:28AM) (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Please let it be noted that the guy in the picture, the one who looks like Kevin, was not the one holding the saw, although feel free to visualize that.


message 7: by ms.petra (new)

ms.petra (mspetra) As a parent paying college tuition, I think that it is bullshit!


message 8: by Brittomart (new)

Brittomart Wait, the school paid for that? Then that's fucked up.


message 9: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17333 comments Mod
**ponders kinky classes in college**


Lyzzibug ~Still Breathing~ (lyzzibug) | 708 comments I don't see the problem.

-The students were warned that it would be graphic
-They had already been watching porn, this was just live
-According to the teacher he was trying to get students to better understand the point he was trying to make.

I would like to know more about the point he was trying to make.


message 11: by janine (new)

janine | 7715 comments Barb wrote: "I'm pretty sure the point was in his pants."

ha! i almost said that.


message 12: by Brittomart (new)

Brittomart What is with some parents wanting to control what their kids learn? I have a friend and her parents think that since they are paying her tuition, they can pick her classes.


message 13: by Jammies (new)

Jammies Myles wrote: "Was there anyone in there under 18? No. And, sorry, can of worms here: Whoever was paying the tuition, it doesn't matter. I don't think parents have a right to control what their child can learn about at the college level."

^^This. Great post, Myles!


message 14: by janine (new)

janine | 7715 comments did herbert grow a nutsack on his face?


message 15: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments A) the photo in the story is NOT me. i would have been grinning like a naughty schoolboy
B) was this a shop class or first aid? with that device it could of been either
3) this class does NOT happen at BYU


message 16: by Kevin (new)

Kevin  (ksprink) | 11469 comments britt - a mr. rogers version of me? how old do you think i am? yikezers! if i taught that class i would be wearing latex pants, a HOLE tee shirt and have my nipples pierced


message 17: by Jammies (new)

Jammies There are two things that bother me--one, that the demonstrators got paid, which would not happen if they were trying to contribute to aging, and two, the twenty-year age difference between the male and female demonstrators. Skeevy.


message 18: by Rebecca (last edited Mar 04, 2011 08:58AM) (new)

Rebecca White (rebecca_white) | 1028 comments I am totally with Myles. The fact that people are going "ick" and talking about how awful it is prooves the professor's point: people think this stuff is so outre and wrong and IT'S ONLY SEX, PEOPLE. This IS an example of very common human sexuality and there's no reason to be afraid of it. If it were manditory, I'd see the point of protesting it.
BTW, the article doesn't say they were paid. They were brought in as speakers, but that doesn't imply payment - everybody I know who's done such things has done it for free. But I think it would be fine if they WERE paid. Being sexual does not make it an illegitimate subject for study. Age difference is also very common and another reflection of normal human sexuality.
The Penthouse comparison doesn't work because Penthouse is about fantasy, not real sex, and it doesn't make any pretentions otherwise.
People should not be grossed out by sex, unless participation isn't completely mutual or there are children involved. That's one reason these classes exist.


message 19: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11665 comments A human sexuality class shows a lot of stuff. I saw a video prepared for a psych class that showed men having sex with animals (a chicken, a cow), women having sex with animals (a horse) and a woman urinating and defecating while straddling her partner's face.

Sick stuff, but there it is.


message 20: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11665 comments And by the way, I don't think ANYONE in the class was thinking about jerking off to this video.


message 21: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca White (rebecca_white) | 1028 comments Barb wrote: "I don't see how this is any different than porn (especially if they were paid - which I still don't know for sure), other than you're sitting in the same room watching. Which (in my mind) means it..."

and the difference between "creepy" and "icked out" is...?


message 22: by Mary (new)

Mary (madamefifi) Sally wrote: "This is weird. no place. But this reminds me of the scene in Life of Brian where the dad awkwardly (to say the least) demonstrates sex for his son."

I think you mean the Sex Ed scene in Meaning of Life, which is what I immediately thought of, as well.


message 23: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca White (rebecca_white) | 1028 comments I'm sorry Barb, I worded that thoughtlessly. My thing is that even WATCHING is normal. It's not something everybody does,and they weren't forced to, but I'm of the Kinsey school of thought that people should be aware of just how common these things are. They SHOULD be unremarkable, but they aren't because it's all still viewed with such fear, really. I'm also of the view that we'd have a much happier world if things were viewed this way.


Lyzzibug ~Still Breathing~ (lyzzibug) | 708 comments I agree with Bun that it is good to have them their to answer any questions that might arise. The BDMS that was shown is something that if it is not done right can lead to serious injury to someone. Having demonstrators that can put people at ease with it, I see as a good thing.


message 25: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17333 comments Mod
is that a euphemism for something?


message 26: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17333 comments Mod
No.


message 27: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17333 comments Mod
.::dances around the Mulberry bush::.


message 28: by Jammies (new)

Jammies I've associated Home Depot with kink since I read about a "self-rimming" sink in one of their ads.

And I still think I would have been more comfortable with it if the couple had provided the demonstration pro bonobo and hadn't been in a relationship that seems to border on pedophiliac to me.


message 29: by Jammies (new)

Jammies Good point that it was the lecturer and not necessarily the demonstrators. Okay, I withdraw that objection. My objection to the age difference has to do with an emotional reaction that college-age kids don't need to see an older man dominating a younger woman as a good thing. And no, not all age differences are bad, but to me, this feels like it's probably a D/s thing, in which case I would have felt more comfortable had the partners been the same age.


message 30: by Félix (new)

Félix (habitseven) Why do you assume he would dominate?


message 31: by Jammies (new)

Jammies Larry wrote: "Why do you assume he would dominate?"

(view spoiler)


message 32: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Also the article does not say that the couple were paid. It says that the lecturer was paid. The lecturer brought in four people to demonstrate some things during his lecture. The article does not reveal whether those people were paid.


That may be the easiest money this lecturer ever made...he didn't have to do anything!:)


Lyzzibug ~Still Breathing~ (lyzzibug) | 708 comments Barb wrote: "oh good ... lol
*joins in bush dancing*"


Sounds dirty


Lyzzibug ~Still Breathing~ (lyzzibug) | 708 comments Barb, we had a show like that here in the states called, Talk Sex with Sue.... something I can't remember her last name.

This woman looked to be in her 60s and even had dolls she would demonstrate certain positions with.


message 35: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Please please please someone find a clip of that show. I'm going to look right now.


message 38: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments Ok, please, please tell me she said "the vagina is cast iron."


message 39: by Sally, la reina (new)

Sally (mrsnolte) | 17333 comments Mod
Are you talking about Dr. Ruth that used to be on that evening talk show?


message 40: by RandomAnthony (new)

RandomAnthony | 14536 comments "It's your rectum, not mine."

Truer words were never spoken...


Lyzzibug ~Still Breathing~ (lyzzibug) | 708 comments HAHAHAHHAAH


message 42: by Rebecca (last edited Mar 04, 2011 12:10PM) (new)

Rebecca White (rebecca_white) | 1028 comments Barb wrote: "No apology necessary Rebecca, I wasn't offended. I obviously needed to clarify my meaning.

Yes, watching is normal ... hell, I like watching porn from time to time (with or without Mr. Barb). ..."


In my ex-husband's class, which he took in the 80s, they did watch some films. And those weren't optional!

I'm not a big watcher of porn, really, because I agree with Bun that it's not realistic - some of the amateur stuff is better - but also because it just seems to emphasize the stuff men like. There's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't do a lot for me.


message 43: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca White (rebecca_white) | 1028 comments BunWat wrote: "Rebecca wrote: "I'm not a big watcher of porn, really, because I agree with Bun that it's not realistic - some of the amateur stuff is better - but also because it just seems to emphasize the stuff..."

I do really like that part the Dutch guy on the game show was talking about, though.


message 44: by Brittomart (new)

Brittomart Wait, why is a 20 year age difference icky? I don't think it is.


message 45: by janine (new)

janine | 7715 comments RandomAnthony wrote: "Oh my.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKWlk..."


that woman is hilarious!

"look at it as a badge of honor. *i have ejaculate*"


message 46: by janine (new)

janine | 7715 comments Rebecca wrote: "I do really like that part the Dutch guy on the game show was talking about, though."

the cums hot, as he pronounces it.


message 47: by Rebecca (last edited Mar 04, 2011 12:53PM) (new)

Rebecca White (rebecca_white) | 1028 comments janine wrote: "Rebecca wrote: "I do really like that part the Dutch guy on the game show was talking about, though."

the cums hot, as he pronounces it."


Yeah! except in another email group I'm in, somebody was talking about Clive Barker's Cabal, where a dead guy is having sex and one of the things that stuck with her was the non-hot cum trickling down her leg...

Okay, I'll make an ammendment: You shouldn't be grossed out by sex unless

1) it's non-consentual

2) it's with minors (miners is okay)

3) involves dead people. Most of the time that would be redundant in consideration of number 1, but not always.


message 48: by Rebecca (new)

Rebecca White (rebecca_white) | 1028 comments BunWat wrote: "That's so funny that you said you liked the cums hot. Because earlier I almost posted that it was one of the things I don't like. I guess I feel that some porn is kind skirting the edge of the de..."

Oh, I'm a big big big fan of ejaculation. Using the word "deification" wouldn't be much of an exaggeration.

I'm kind of proud of myself that I managed to tie together this conversation with the one in my horror group.

But anyway, I think I'm going to go out and get some girl scout cookies, if I they're still selling them.


message 49: by Phil (new)

Phil | 11665 comments Rebecca wrote: "But anyway, I think I'm going to go out and get some girl scout cookies, if I they're still selling them."

After your earlier revelation I am truly afraid of asking what you'll be dunking them in.


message 50: by Phoenix (new)

Phoenix (phoenixapb) | 1619 comments From hot ejaculate and necrophilia to girl scout cookies in one post...I do belive that might be a record even for TC.


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