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What role do live sex demonstrations have in college sexuality classes? Home Depot has all the supplies needed.
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I don't know if that's progressive or what.Wait a second, I've heard of showing porn in classes, and they didn't have a big uproar about that.
And I see what the students mean by like, "It's over" 'cause it probably is yesterday's news. And if it didn't bother them, then what's the problem? It was optional, after lecture, gave many warnings - if something like that happened here, I definitely would not go, but students had that choice. Is it illegal to have sex in public like that though? But they weren't having sex? I wish I knew more about the lesson he was trying to teach though...
Oh, and the guy in that picture looks a lot like Kevin.
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Hey, no, because he looks like a Mr. Roger version of Kevin! Look at his eyes!
Please let it be noted that the guy in the picture, the one who looks like Kevin, was not the one holding the saw, although feel free to visualize that.
As a parent paying college tuition, I think that it is bullshit!
Wait, the school paid for that? Then that's fucked up.
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I don't see the problem.-The students were warned that it would be graphic
-They had already been watching porn, this was just live
-According to the teacher he was trying to get students to better understand the point he was trying to make.
I would like to know more about the point he was trying to make.
Barb wrote: "I'm pretty sure the point was in his pants."ha! i almost said that.
What is with some parents wanting to control what their kids learn? I have a friend and her parents think that since they are paying her tuition, they can pick her classes.
Myles wrote: "Was there anyone in there under 18? No. And, sorry, can of worms here: Whoever was paying the tuition, it doesn't matter. I don't think parents have a right to control what their child can learn about at the college level."^^This. Great post, Myles!
did herbert grow a nutsack on his face?
A) the photo in the story is NOT me. i would have been grinning like a naughty schoolboyB) was this a shop class or first aid? with that device it could of been either
3) this class does NOT happen at BYU
britt - a mr. rogers version of me? how old do you think i am? yikezers! if i taught that class i would be wearing latex pants, a HOLE tee shirt and have my nipples pierced
There are two things that bother me--one, that the demonstrators got paid, which would not happen if they were trying to contribute to aging, and two, the twenty-year age difference between the male and female demonstrators. Skeevy.
I am totally with Myles. The fact that people are going "ick" and talking about how awful it is prooves the professor's point: people think this stuff is so outre and wrong and IT'S ONLY SEX, PEOPLE. This IS an example of very common human sexuality and there's no reason to be afraid of it. If it were manditory, I'd see the point of protesting it.BTW, the article doesn't say they were paid. They were brought in as speakers, but that doesn't imply payment - everybody I know who's done such things has done it for free. But I think it would be fine if they WERE paid. Being sexual does not make it an illegitimate subject for study. Age difference is also very common and another reflection of normal human sexuality.
The Penthouse comparison doesn't work because Penthouse is about fantasy, not real sex, and it doesn't make any pretentions otherwise.
People should not be grossed out by sex, unless participation isn't completely mutual or there are children involved. That's one reason these classes exist.
A human sexuality class shows a lot of stuff. I saw a video prepared for a psych class that showed men having sex with animals (a chicken, a cow), women having sex with animals (a horse) and a woman urinating and defecating while straddling her partner's face.Sick stuff, but there it is.
And by the way, I don't think ANYONE in the class was thinking about jerking off to this video.
Barb wrote: "I don't see how this is any different than porn (especially if they were paid - which I still don't know for sure), other than you're sitting in the same room watching. Which (in my mind) means it..."and the difference between "creepy" and "icked out" is...?
Sally wrote: "This is weird. no place. But this reminds me of the scene in Life of Brian where the dad awkwardly (to say the least) demonstrates sex for his son."I think you mean the Sex Ed scene in Meaning of Life, which is what I immediately thought of, as well.
I'm sorry Barb, I worded that thoughtlessly. My thing is that even WATCHING is normal. It's not something everybody does,and they weren't forced to, but I'm of the Kinsey school of thought that people should be aware of just how common these things are. They SHOULD be unremarkable, but they aren't because it's all still viewed with such fear, really. I'm also of the view that we'd have a much happier world if things were viewed this way.
I agree with Bun that it is good to have them their to answer any questions that might arise. The BDMS that was shown is something that if it is not done right can lead to serious injury to someone. Having demonstrators that can put people at ease with it, I see as a good thing.
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I've associated Home Depot with kink since I read about a "self-rimming" sink in one of their ads.And I still think I would have been more comfortable with it if the couple had provided the demonstration pro bono
Good point that it was the lecturer and not necessarily the demonstrators. Okay, I withdraw that objection. My objection to the age difference has to do with an emotional reaction that college-age kids don't need to see an older man dominating a younger woman as a good thing. And no, not all age differences are bad, but to me, this feels like it's probably a D/s thing, in which case I would have felt more comfortable had the partners been the same age.
Also the article does not say that the couple were paid. It says that the lecturer was paid. The lecturer brought in four people to demonstrate some things during his lecture. The article does not reveal whether those people were paid. That may be the easiest money this lecturer ever made...he didn't have to do anything!:)
Barb wrote: "oh good ... lol*joins in bush dancing*"
Sounds dirty
Barb, we had a show like that here in the states called, Talk Sex with Sue.... something I can't remember her last name.This woman looked to be in her 60s and even had dolls she would demonstrate certain positions with.
Please please please someone find a clip of that show. I'm going to look right now.
Ok, please, please tell me she said "the vagina is cast iron."
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"It's your rectum, not mine."Truer words were never spoken...
Barb wrote: "No apology necessary Rebecca, I wasn't offended. I obviously needed to clarify my meaning.Yes, watching is normal ... hell, I like watching porn from time to time (with or without Mr. Barb). ..."
In my ex-husband's class, which he took in the 80s, they did watch some films. And those weren't optional!
I'm not a big watcher of porn, really, because I agree with Bun that it's not realistic - some of the amateur stuff is better - but also because it just seems to emphasize the stuff men like. There's nothing wrong with that, but it doesn't do a lot for me.
BunWat wrote: "Rebecca wrote: "I'm not a big watcher of porn, really, because I agree with Bun that it's not realistic - some of the amateur stuff is better - but also because it just seems to emphasize the stuff..."I do really like that part the Dutch guy on the game show was talking about, though.
Wait, why is a 20 year age difference icky? I don't think it is.
RandomAnthony wrote: "Oh my.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gKWlk..."
that woman is hilarious!
"look at it as a badge of honor. *i have ejaculate*"
Rebecca wrote: "I do really like that part the Dutch guy on the game show was talking about, though."the cums hot, as he pronounces it.
janine wrote: "Rebecca wrote: "I do really like that part the Dutch guy on the game show was talking about, though."the cums hot, as he pronounces it."
Yeah! except in another email group I'm in, somebody was talking about Clive Barker's Cabal, where a dead guy is having sex and one of the things that stuck with her was the non-hot cum trickling down her leg...
Okay, I'll make an ammendment: You shouldn't be grossed out by sex unless
1) it's non-consentual
2) it's with minors (miners is okay)
3) involves dead people. Most of the time that would be redundant in consideration of number 1, but not always.
BunWat wrote: "That's so funny that you said you liked the cums hot. Because earlier I almost posted that it was one of the things I don't like. I guess I feel that some porn is kind skirting the edge of the de..."Oh, I'm a big big big fan of ejaculation. Using the word "deification" wouldn't be much of an exaggeration.
I'm kind of proud of myself that I managed to tie together this conversation with the one in my horror group.
But anyway, I think I'm going to go out and get some girl scout cookies, if I they're still selling them.
Rebecca wrote: "But anyway, I think I'm going to go out and get some girl scout cookies, if I they're still selling them."After your earlier revelation I am truly afraid of asking what you'll be dunking them in.
From hot ejaculate and necrophilia to girl scout cookies in one post...I do belive that might be a record even for TC.
http://www.suntimes.com/4115230-417/l...
The live sex act featured a sex toy that was a modified version of a power tool known as a reciprocating saw, or Sawzall. The tool used at Northwestern featured a phallic attachment in place of the blade.
Anyway, I guess the session wasn't mandatory, but, um, I bet attendance was high...
What do you think?
Checks TC records to see who's been to Home Depot lately