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message 1: by Holli (new)

Holli I've been hearing a lot about the Dallas TV show re-do.... what do you all think about it? Did you watch the original? I can remember hiding behind the recliner when I was 8-10 yrs old after my bedtime and secretly watching it while my mom did.... finally she let me stay up and watch it when I got past 10.

Dallas TNT Reboot

Looks 'Fabulous,' But 'They've Gotta Bring Lucy Back!'

from TVLine by Matt Webb Mitovich

Dallas alumna Charlene Tilton is singing the praises of TNT’s upcoming reboot of the long-running primetime sudser, yet thinks it needs just a little something — namely her troublemaking tart, Lucy.
“I read the script for the first episode and it is absolutely wonderful,” Tilton told TVLine at the annual Night of 100 Stars Oscars viewing party. “It’s going to be fabulous.”

In addition to a “next generation” cast headed by Desperate Housewives alum Josh Henderson (playing J.R.s son, John Ross), Chase‘s Jesse Metcalfe (as Bobby and Pam’s son, Christopher) and Jordana Brewster (as a ranch cook’s daughter), original Dallas stars Larry Hagman, Patrick Duffy and Linda Gray are set to reprise their roles of J.R., Bobby and Sue Ellen, respectively — and “they're going to be amazing,” Tilton promises. Still, as fans of the original series know, a little Lucy could go a long way.

“They’ve gotta bring me back!” Tilton cheers. And she may know just the reason why. When last seen, Lucy had moved to Europe while still in possession of a 25 percent stake in Ewing Oil. So if there’s any major developments with or fights over the family business, “They’d have to have her come and vote,” offers the actress.

Though Tilton says she has not gotten a call from the producers of the new Dallas, she nonetheless is feeling Lucy love from fans. “People have sent me Internet petitions to bring her back,” she shares with a wide smile, “and I’m like, ‘Oh my gosh, thank you!’”

message 2: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4961 comments I never watched the original but I might give it a go if they remake it.

message 3: by Holli (new)

Holli The original (back in it's day) was great! Very Desperate Housewives-ish.... good, soapy drama. I've toured Southfork Ranch a couple of times since I moved here to Dallas and that was fun.

message 4: by Jackie (last edited Mar 04, 2011 03:51PM) (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4961 comments Holli, That must have been AWESOME to tour a place with such a pop-cultural history. I didn't watch it back then because I was a teenager and out all the time, but I heard the words, 'Who shot JR' a billion times, lol

I've been thinking about it since last night and if they do a remake I will definitely watch it. I'm laughing because I know your thinking 'I already knew that.'

message 5: by Holli (new)

Holli LOL, yes I am!! :)

message 6: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4961 comments I like how well you know me!

message 7: by Robyn (new)

Robyn (roxy_nj) | 2775 comments Oooooo.....I watched Dallas as a kid with my mom too, Holli. Probably did it in a similar manner but don't quite remember.

A few years back the Soap Network picked it up for reruns and ran it daily from the first episode. I watched it religiously after work and finaly got to see everything surrounding the Who SHot JR storyline. I must not have been able to stay awake that late yet the first time around because I don't remember it.

I'm glad they are picking up on John Ross and Christopher and some other originals rather then creating all new people. The occasional reappearance of other original characters will make it so much more fun. I can't wait!!

message 8: by Holli (new)

Holli I can't wait either.... I'm really excited for this one!!

message 9: by Lori (new)

Lori (barfield) | 730 comments Well i sure wasn't a kid, but i watched it religiously. My mother-in-law hated JR & i just loved him. I didn't like the spin off Knots Landing or the crappy shoulder pad wearing witches of Dynasty.

message 10: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4961 comments Do you think we'll be seeing Dallas on the Fall 2011 schedule? I hope so. I'm getting more and more excited.

message 11: by Holli (new)

Holli I'll have to check when it comes out.... see if anything has been said yet

message 12: by Robyn (new)

Robyn (roxy_nj) | 2775 comments Speaking of remakes...I just heard they are working on a Charlies Angles TV remake. I will see if I can find the article and start a thread.

message 13: by Lori (new)

Lori (barfield) | 730 comments As i've had time to think about this, i don't really see it as a remake. More of a continuation of the Ewing family. IMO that's ok. Not like the so called "new" Charlies Angles. UG!

message 14: by Robyn (new)

Robyn (roxy_nj) | 2775 comments I think continuations have a far better chance of doing well then reboots. With continuation you peak the interest of original fans especially if you promis occasional guest appearance o original cast AND yet you can keep it new feelin to attract a new audience.

message 15: by Jackie (new)

Jackie (thelastwolf) | 4961 comments I agree. In a remake, someone's bound to compare and complain.

message 16: by Holli (new)

Holli You are so right Lori, definitely a continuation rather than a remake!

message 17: by Holli (new)

Holli TNT has ordered to series and set a premiere timetable for its continuation of the iconic Dallas saga.

The new series featuring faces both fresh and very familiar will bow in the summer of 2012, the network announced on Friday. But seeing as that feels so, so far away, fans can get a sneak preview of Dallas this coming Monday, during the season openers of The Closer (9/8c) and Rizzoli & Isles (10/9c)

The cast for TNT’s Dallas — which reacquaints us with the clans visited upon during the original CBS drama’s 1978-1991 run — includes Josh Henderson (Desperate Housewives), Jesse Metcalfe (Desperate Housewives), Jordana Brewster (Fast & Furious), Julie Gonzalo (Veronica Mars) and Brenda Strong (Desperate Housewives). They will be joined by original series faves Patrick Duffy, Linda Gray and Larry Hagman (reprising their roles of Bobby, Sue Ellen and J.R. Ewing, respectively).

As previously reported by TVLine, Metcalfe was cast as Bobby and Pam’s son Christopher, Henderson is J.R.’s son John Ross, and Brewster plays a ranch cook’s daughter who will be caught in a triangle with the aforementioned lads — frothy, seeing as Gonzalo plays Chris’ fiancée, Rebecca! Strong plays Bobby Ewing’s new wife, Ann.

Two more Dallas vets, Charlene Tilton (aka Lucy Ewing) and Steve Kanaly (Ray Krebbs), will make appearances in the pilot, but are not series regulars, TNT tells me.

message 18: by Robyn (new)

Robyn (roxy_nj) | 2775 comments "Bobby Ewing's new wife"......refresh my memory, did Pam get killed off?

message 19: by Holli (new)

Holli I found this for you Roxy....

Later seasons

Pam received good news at the end of 1987: she was finally able to conceive a baby, after confirming that there would be no health risks involved. However, she never got that chance. While calling her husband to tell him the good news, she was in a massive auto accident where she hit an oil tanker and was severely burned in a subsequent fire. While recovering from her burns, she decided to get away from the Ewings and everyone else, including her son, disappear and divorce Bobby for a second time.

She resurfaced using her late Aunt Maggie's & late Cousin Jimmy's last name Monahan and going by the name Pamela Monahan (being played by Margaret Michaels) for a small cameo in the following season. Tracked down by her brother Cliff, Pam had undergone plastic surgery. She told him that she was also involved with her doctor and that she wished to have no further ties to Dallas, or anyone from her past. Heartbroken, Cliff leaves and decides not to tell Bobby about her to avoid hurting him. Pam later explained to the doctor that she lied because of having an unspecified, fatal illness, and that she did not want to burden Bobby, Cliff or Christopher with the ordeal of losing her all over again. This is Pamela's last appearance in the chronological Dallas timeline, it is therefore assumed that Pam died some time later.

However, the following TV Season of the show saw Margaret Michaels return, but now as Pam look-a-like Jeanne O'Brien. For her first show as Jeanne, Michaels has no lines at all and is simply seen at the climax of the Episode where she is leaving a restaurant in Dallas with a male escort at her side. Bobby looks up and see's her across the room going into an elevator, shocked and disillusioned by the sight before him, Bobby then exclaims I think I just saw Pam to his secretary Phyllis.

This ending makes it seem as though Pam has come back to Dallas, but the End Credits are somewhat confusing as they list Margaret Michaels as Jeanne O'Brien, but her character name has not been mentioned in the actual show at this point. It is not until the next Episode when things are cleared-up for the viewers and she is properly introduced to the audience and it is explained that her character name is indeed Jeanne O'Brien and not Pam Ewing.

The very last mention of Pam occurs in the last ever consecutive show in the Series. "Conundrum", a two-hour Finale at the end of the show's last year has Cliff mentioning he is expecting a phone call from Pam. After this, the character is no longer mention in any of the Sequels

message 20: by Robyn (new)

Robyn (roxy_nj) | 2775 comments Thanks, Holli. That all sounds familiar now n

message 21: by Holli (new)

Holli The more things change, the more things stay the same. Namely, J.R. Ewing still thinks his brother Bobby is an idealistic fool.

That, and more, is revealed during TNT’s first look teaser for its new Dallas series, which broke during Monday night’s season premieres of The Closer and Rizzoli & Isles.

Once again, as a “scorecard” to keep tabs on the new faces as they flit across your screen:

In addition to returning original series stars Larry Hagman, Patrick Duffy and Linda Gray — reprising their roles of J.R., Bobby and Sue Ellen, respectively — TNT’s Dallas features Jesse Metcalfe (Desperate Housewives) as Bobby and Pam’s son Christopher, Josh Henderson (Desperate Housewives) as J.R.’s son John Ross, and Jordana Brewster (Fast & Furious) as Elena Ramos, a ranch cook’s daughter who will be caught in a triangle with the aforementioned lads.

Julie Gonzalo (Veronica Mars) plays Christopher’s fiancée, Rebecca, while Brenda Strong (Desperate Housewives) is Bobby Ewing’s new wife, Ann.

And yes, the classic theme music is back. Which is kinda cool.

The new Dallas premieres in the summer… of 2012

message 22: by Holli (new)

Holli • Dallas vet Ken Kercheval will reprise his role as Ewing family rival Cliff Barnes for multiple episodes of the TNT reboot, per TV Guide Magazine. Dallas is set to bow in summer 2012.

message 23: by Robyn (new)

Robyn (roxy_nj) | 2775 comments Awesome!

message 24: by ReneeB (new)

ReneeB I have to admit this looks interesting. I watched Dallas when I was a kid. It's kind of smart to see it from the boys point of view instead of remaking it.

Kind of sad that it's going to take so long for this to premiere.

message 25: by Holli (new)

Holli I know huh Renee? I want them to start it now!! :)

message 26: by Holli (new)

Holli Tony Almeida is taking refuge in Texas.

24 fan fave Carlos Bernard has nabbed a recurring gig on TNT’s upcoming Dallas reboot, TVLine has confirmed.
Making his debut early in the season, Bernard will play a charming businessman from Venezuela who comes to town to sort out a deal with Larry Hagman’s J.R. Ewing.

message 27: by Holli (new)

Holli Jokes about showers, shootings and senior citizenship set the tone for a lighthearted, nostalgia-heavy Dallas panel Saturday at the Television Critics Association’s winter press tour.

Joining Southfork veterans Larry Hagman, Patrick Duffy and Linda Gray to talk up the forthcoming TNT update (premiering this summer) were the next generation of Ewings, including Jesse Metcalfe, Josh Henderson, Jordana Brewster, Julie Gonzalo and Brenda Strong.

Here are 10 highlights from the session:

1 | TNT’s top exec, Michael Wright, insisted the show was neither a reboot nor a remake, but rather, “A continuation of the story of the Ewings.”

2 | A palpable chill could be felt (and a smattering of snickers heard) when a reporter asked whether Victoria Principal would make an appearance as Bobby’s first wife, Pam. “I don’t know yet,” responded exec producer Cynthia Cidre rather icily. (FYI: The show is set to wrap production on its first season on Jan. 31).

3 | Cidre later confirmed that Pam is alive. “The mythology that we carry forward is that after she had that crash with the oil tanker [in the '80s], and left the family and abandoned [her son] Christopher (now played by Metcalfe), she went and eventually had plastic surgery and married [her surgeon].” (Bobby, meanwhile, has similarly moved on with Strong’s character.)

4 | Further underscoring the huge generational gap between the old and new guard, Brewster announced that she was “born the year J.R. was shot.”

5 | The series does not marginalize the original cast post-pilot. “It was never our intent to use the big three as bait,” maintained Cidre. “It was really to integrate them with the full cast.” Added Duffy: “So far we’ve been in every episode.”

6 | Hagman’s recent cancer diagnosis has had little impact on production. “They gave me a little time off, but in this biz you can shoot three or four episodes at the same time,” he told TVLine. “My treatment is going very well. They’re not writing me out, I can tell you that.”

7 | Asked why he agreed to resurrect J.R., a still-spry Hagman cracked, “Working at 80 years old! How many people can say that?” (He later joked that the Friends cast “owes me at least 10 percent” for the precedent-setting hard line he took during contract negotiations during Dallas‘ original run.)

8 | J.R. and Sue Ellen’s relationship remains as tempestuous as ever. “Yesterday we did a scene after 13 years and she gave me my first slap,” revealed Hagman. Gray quickly added with a laugh, “It was great.”

9 | Metcalfe took a subtle dig at Desperate Housewives while raving about the bond he shares with his Dallas co-stars. “I’ve had great experiences [before],” he said, “but I never felt that my cast was my family, and it makes for great chemistry and bleeds into the work.” Less subtle was his reaction when a reporter reminded him that he remains best known for playing a shirtless gardener on DH. “Please don’t tell me that,” he sighed.

10 | Asked about his iconic season-erasing shower scene during the original Dallas, Duffy gamely replied, “I don’t do showers anymore,” before turning to Henderson and Metcalfe and adding, “That’s these guys.”

message 28: by Nichole (new)

Nichole (nikkibell) | 21 comments I think that this continuing will very interesting.

message 29: by Holli (new)

Holli Me too!!

message 30: by Timothy (new)

Timothy (jeditimothy) | 599 comments I live in DALLAS so I am glad it's back got to go to the premire this last week.

message 31: by Robyn (new)

Robyn (roxy_nj) | 2775 comments Is it starting soon?!!

message 32: by Timothy (new)

Timothy (jeditimothy) | 599 comments Next wensday.

message 33: by Stacy (new)

Stacy (sjhensley) | 928 comments You know, this actually sounds pretty good!

To be honest, I never really cared for Pam anyway.

message 34: by Holli (new)

Holli I live in Dallas too Timothy (well, Frisco) and there is so much buzz around here lately on this show. A lot of it is shot here in the area and out at Southfork Ranch so that will be fun to see! How was the premiere?

message 35: by Timothy (new)

Timothy (jeditimothy) | 599 comments AWESOME got to meet a couple of the actors and got auto graphs.

message 36: by Holli (new)

Holli Who did you meet?

message 37: by Timothy (new)

Timothy (jeditimothy) | 599 comments I got the following:

Patrick Duffy
Linda Gray
Larry Hagman
Josh Henderson

message 38: by Robyn (new)

Robyn (roxy_nj) | 2775 comments Holli - are people around there excited for the show? Sometimes people in the area of the shoot really don't want a show about their area.

message 39: by Holli (new)

Holli That's cool Timothy!

message 40: by Holli (new)

Holli The city is paying quite a bit to have it filmed solely here in Dallas so I'm sure they aren't too happy but overall I think everyone here is. SouthFork Ranch is out by itself really in more of a country setting so I think that they can contain everything out there and it won't shut things down for people. They film a lot of TV shows here in Dallas so for the most part it seems like people are used to it. Here's in article from the Dallas newspaper about the cost of keeping all the filming here:

Two weeks ago the Dallas City Council’s Economic Development Committee went behind closed doors to discuss the cost of keeping Dallas in Dallas, should TNT’s reboot of the iconic CBS series run longer than the debut season that kicks off June 13 (and, really, at this point you’re probably well aware of the debut date). At the time Janis Burklund, director of the Dallas Film Commission, couldn’t say much about the city’s dealings with production company Warner Horizon, except that shooting J.R. Ewing in Dallas all these years later is “crucial to our industry.” As Burklund explained, “If we can’t have Dallas here, how are we supposed to convince anyone else to shoot here?”

Now we know the price tag: $200,000 per season in incentives for six seasons, bringing the bill to $1.2 million. But that’s only if TNT keeps the series on the air for six more seasons. And if all those episodes are aired — among myriad other requirements listed on next Wednesday’s council agenda and below.

“If it doesn’t get picked up, no harm, no foul,” Burklund says this morning — except, of course, if the series doesn’t get picked up, there goes one of the city’s best marketing campaigns in years. “We have very little risk here. This is a pretty cheap deal. Just the 30 seconds of the opening title sequence alone …” She laughs. “And they’re still going to come and spend money.”

The $200,000-per-season deal is actually significantly less than the production company received to shoot the first season here. Last year the council voted to give developer Jack Matthews’s CCH Lamar Partners a $235,000 economic development grant to help finish out a film and television production facility on S. Lamar, while the production company received $25,000 for the pilot and another $25,000 on top of that for the rest of the 10-episode shoot. Matthews also threw in gratis and heavily discounted loft and office space for cast and crew — not to mention use in the series. “A lot of people chipped in to make this happen,” Burklund says.

The state kicks in a little by way of subsidies, but not much — and the way Texas doles out its film-and-TV dough is confusing, given the fact it’s tiered. As Burklund explains: “You have to explain, ‘There’s this and this and that and that,’ so it’s not just a number.” And the payout’s not as high as, say, Louisiana or New Mexico’s incentives programs.

Fact is, says Burklund, “$200,000 isn’t a lot, but it’s also significant with a show as modestly budgeted as Dallas. We’re kinda splitting the cost with them. It’s showing we’re in it with them. It’s establishing a lot of goodwill for hopefully years to come. I didn’t want to bring it back to council repeatedly, and it feels like it has every shot to go for years. This is a good deal for the city, absolutely. This is a cheap deal for the city, frankly. There are other forms of marketing that cost far more than that that aren’t nearly as effective.”

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Stacy (sjhensley) | 928 comments So what did you think about the show?

I thought it was pretty good; I have only seen the first hour. The younger generation seems to be blending well with the older generation, though I'm on the fence with Josh Henderson as John Ross. His portrayal seems pretty one-dimensional so far.

Also, the writing could be a little better. For instance, who breaks up with someone on their wedding day by sending an email? If you received said email, wouldn't you want to confront the jerk face to face rather than run off to Mexico?! Also, the end, when John Ross and that lady were standing in the Cowboys Stadium, seemed a bit pointless. If you're going to have a clandestine meeting at Cowboy Stadium, at least end it with a kiss, or exchange of money or confidential photos! Why would you go to the trouble of a secret meeting just to say that the woman doesn't trust J.R. and then just stand there looking around the stadium? Lame!

message 42: by Timothy (new)

Timothy (jeditimothy) | 599 comments I have it dvr'd so plan to watch it all in when it's over in one big marathon.

message 43: by Robyn (new)

Robyn (roxy_nj) | 2775 comments I missed the Premire but I think I DVRed the re-play last night.

message 44: by Holli (new)

Holli I haven't watched yet but I've been hearing it was pretty good for a re-make!

message 45: by Timothy (new)

Timothy (jeditimothy) | 599 comments It's not a remake think of it as dallas the next generation.

message 46: by Holli (new)

Holli I know it's not a re-make .... it's like what they did with Beverly Hills, 90210 but having watched it as a kid I throw it into the "re-make-bringing it back" category in my mind LOL

message 47: by Robyn (new)

Robyn (roxy_nj) | 2775 comments Am watching the premiere now. About a half hour in. I'm making a prediction...... Christopher's fiancé is going to be the bad girl, not Helena, and not the sweet girl everyone assumes Christopher would marry.

message 48: by Holli (new)

Holli I watched the first hour last night and I loved it!!! I think they have done a great job in continuing this storyline seamlessly and I'm very happy to see the new characters and the old.

message 49: by Robyn (new)

Robyn (roxy_nj) | 2775 comments Can someone refresh my is Lucy related to the Ewings? She calls Bobby "uncle". Whose kid was she?

message 50: by Holli (last edited Jun 19, 2012 10:28AM) (new)

Holli She's Gary Ewing's kid.... the middle son

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