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Linda Wilkinson | 3 comments What are the best and worst movies based on Jane Austen´s books?


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Manda (pemberliegh) | 96 comments Faves:
-P&P (1995): Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle. Not 100% in line with the events of the book (what adaptation is or can be?), but 200% (yes, it is possible) accurate on the feeling and intention in the book. Hearts and Love, etc.
-Persuasion (1995): Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Root. It is just beautiful. OMG, The Letter. And may I just add it is nice to know a place to go where all you have to do is write The Letter and people know what the heck you're talking about.
S&S (1995 - what was it with 1995?? Good year for JA, that's for sure): Emma Thompson (et al). Loved the cast and ET's adaptation. She is quite clever and talented.

On the Flip - watch at your own risk (IMHO):
-P&P (1980): David Rintoul and Elizabeth Garvie. The acting is stiff and without the humour and playfulness called for. Dialogue is delivered rapid-fire almost as if by rote. I found it difficult to engage or care and I love these characters.
-NA (1987, you have to look up "Screen Two" to find this on IMDb): Just terrible. They tried to put in the drama with the fake scares, but it just falls flat. I thought the 2007 version did a better job, not perfect, but better.
-MP (1999): I think this does have the decency to say "inspired by" rather than "adapted from" in the starting titles, but wow. I actaully like this movie in general, Fanny was more lively and fun for sure as they merged FP with JA, herself. But I cannot like it as an adaptation of MP - too many liberties for my comfort; things like changing the make-up of characters and the anti-slavery commentary (I'm totally anti-salvery, but as a major plot-point in a JA movie??).


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Rachel (randhrshipper1) | 674 comments Mod
Manda wrote: "Faves:
-P&P (1995): Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle. Not 100% in line with the events of the book (what adaptation is or can be?), but 200% (yes, it is possible) accurate on the feeling and intenti..."


You TOTALLY got it right, Manda! 1995 was THE year for Austen adaptations! :) The three you mentioned are all my picks as well!


message 4: by Kim (last edited Mar 01, 2011 08:20PM) (new)

Kim (kimmr) Persuasion is my favourite Austen novel. I loved the 1995 film with Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds and was really disappointed with the 2007 version with Rupert Penry-Jones and Sally Hawkins. So many aspects of it were just so wrong!


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J. Rubino (jrubino) | 200 comments I love the '95 Pride and Prejudice, but I have to say that the '08 Sense and Sensibility has really grown on me. I think it was very well done, and the cast very well chosen, particularly Brandon (David Morissey). It's always a risk when a writer and director go for scenes that are expressive of character - in this case, the dueling scene (mentioned in Brandon's narrative) and the falcon scene (or the pond scene in '95 P&P). It's a kind of license that can either be on point, or go very wrong.


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Manda (pemberliegh) | 96 comments Rachel wrote: "You TOTALLY got it right, Manda! 1995 was THE year for Austen adaptations! :) The three you mentioned are all my picks as well!
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Thanks! I never put it together until I was typing that post that 1995 was such a magical Austen year. :D

I would also like to add my favorite non-period adaptations: 1) Clueless. It was really well thought out as a modernized Emma and it totally captures the 90s when I was in high school - exaggerates for sure, but captures; 2) Bride & Prejudice. I do love musicals and quirkiness... The acting is not always perfect, but it makes up for it in other ways. I really like Kohli (Collins) and the song the girls sing about him - "No Life Without Wife" Cracks me up every time.


message 7: by Rachel, The Honorable Miss Moderator (new)

Rachel (randhrshipper1) | 674 comments Mod
Manda wrote: "Rachel wrote: "You TOTALLY got it right, Manda! 1995 was THE year for Austen adaptations! :) The three you mentioned are all my picks as well!
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Thanks! I never put it together until I was typ..."


I LOVE Bride and Prejudice too, Manda! Kholi is HILARIOUS!


message 8: by Amanda (new)

Amanda (akinderman) The best is the BBC Pride and Prejudice, but I can't think of a worst.


message 9: by Manda (last edited Mar 17, 2011 09:20AM) (new)

Manda (pemberliegh) | 96 comments Anna wrote: "I'm trying to locate a BBC version Emma, not the recent one! The actress playing Emma is thin and blond and I think I saw this film around the same time the Gwyneth Paltrow Emma came out. Does anyone know this version?"

The only other Emma made at the same time as the GP version (1996) was the one with Kate Beckinsale, made by A&E in the US, but she is definitely a brunette. There are a few BBC versions over the years: 1948 (hair unknown), 1960 (hair unknown), 1972 (blondish), 2009 (blond). There are also a few US versions, hair color unknown... NBC (1954 & 1957), CBS (1960). That covers all of the classic versions as far as I know.


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Shea | 117 comments I, of course, have not seen every Jane Austen movie but my current favorite (and it will be hard to dethrone) is the Colin Firth/Jennifer Ehle/BBC/A&E "Pride and Prejudice." Five hours long and I can still watch it over and over...a testament to my love.


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Margaret Metz | 112 comments You're looking for the version with Romola Garai and Johnny Lee Miller. It's the 2009 BBC Masterpiece production. I just watched it on DVD last week. :o)

Oops - this is for Anna - looking for the Emma version.


message 12: by Robin (new)

Robin (goodreadscomtriviagoddessl) Emma with Romola Garai is good. She is the perfect Emma. Not that Gwyneth Paltrow isn't bad, but Romola won that role for me.


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Melanie | 4 comments Amanda wrote: "The best is the BBC Pride and Prejudice, but I can't think of a worst."

I didn't care for the Keira Knightly version. I mean, Jennifer Ehle ruined it for all future actresses, I think! ;-)


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Melanie | 4 comments Shea wrote: "I, of course, have not seen every Jane Austen movie but my current favorite (and it will be hard to dethrone) is the Colin Firth/Jennifer Ehle/BBC/A&E "Pride and Prejudice." Five hours long and I ..."

That is the number one "girls movie night" choice in my family!


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Rebecca (rreupert) | 4 comments Kim wrote: "Persuasion is my favourite Austen novel. I loved the 1995 film with Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds and was really disappointed with the 2007 version with Rupert Penry-Jones and Sally Hawkins. So many..."

I LOVE Persuasion! It is my fave. However, I don't think that either of these were very good. I wish that I was a screenwriter/director/producer so that I could make the movie and do it right! Such a fabulous book! Needs an equally fabulous movie!


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Rebecca (rreupert) | 4 comments Robin wrote: "Emma with Romola Garai is good. She is the perfect Emma. Not that Gwyneth Paltrow isn't bad, but Romola won that role for me."

Awww, now I TOTALLY disagree! Neither of those made me happy, I like Kate Beckinsale! Knightly was SOOOO great in that one!


message 17: by Robin (new)

Robin (goodreadscomtriviagoddessl) I beg to differ, Romola seemed to capture the essence of what Emma is all about. Kate Beckinsale as Emma, maybe? As for Pride and Prejudice, Jennifer and Colin does it for me.:D


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Charity U (narnianatheart) | 37 comments I absolutely love the 1995 P&P and the 2009 Emma. *swoons* They're both so great! Two of my all time favorite movies and adaptions of Jane Austen books.


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Simerpreet Anna wrote: "Hi all. I have belonged to this group for awhile but don't post often and I apologize that my first real post in a long time is a question. I'm trying to locate a BBC version Emma, not the recent o..."

Try www.icefilms.info you might find it on there!


message 20: by [deleted user] (last edited Apr 06, 2011 05:58PM) (new)

No contest! For me, it's got to be the '95 BBC Pride & Prejudice. The worst has got to be either the '96 Emma (I can't stand Paltrow!) or the '05 Pride & Prejudice (Knightley is so bland and not at all Lizzie-like in my opinion, not to mention the annoying liberties taken with the story).


message 21: by Robin (new)

Robin (goodreadscomtriviagoddessl) Is the 95 version the Jennifer and Colin one? If so, you are in good company since most of us like that one as well. Emma with Gwyneth looked to me like she was trying way too hard to sound British. Never saw the Keira Knightley pride and prejudice. She is good as the Dutchess of Devonshire, though.


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Kristin (sewtechnicolor) | 52 comments I seem to be the only one who feels this way, but my favorite Austen movie is the 2005 "Pride and Prejudice." It's been my favorite movie since the first time I saw it! :) I know it's shorter and they had to cut out/rearrange things. But it's a gorgeous movie. The music, the cinematography, the scenery- everything is perfect. I like Keira Knightley as Lizzy and I much prefer Matthew Macfadyen over Colin Firth (dodges tomatoes :). I feel that this adaptation is much more charming,humorous, and enjoyable than the 1995 version (which I do like- I even own it).

I also love the 2009 BBC "Emma"- it's smart and funny and lovely!

Also love the 95 version of "Sense and Sensibility."


message 23: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia (jorieana) Yays
Sense and Sensibility 1995-Alan Rickman as Colonel Brandon..."the air is full of spices"...

Nays
Emma- the Gwyneth Paltrow one just doesn't do anything for me


message 24: by Shea (new)

Shea | 117 comments Started watching P&P again last night ('95 Firth). I just can't stay away!


message 25: by Megan (new)

Megan Shea wrote: "Started watching P&P again last night ('95 Firth). I just can't stay away!"

Gee Shea - you say it like it is a bad thing...;-)


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Shea | 117 comments Megan wrote: "Shea wrote: "Started watching P&P again last night ('95 Firth). I just can't stay away!"

Gee Shea - you say it like it is a bad thing...;-)"


Oh No! If Colin Firth and especially Jane Austen are involved it is NEVER a bad thing.


message 27: by Megan (new)

Megan Exactly! ;-)


message 28: by Robin (new)

Robin (goodreadscomtriviagoddessl) My thoughts exactly:D


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Christina | 4 comments Ooh, I would have to say the Firth/Ehle Pride and Prejudice is my absolute, all-time favorite. Although the new one with Keira Knightly follows closely behind. I would love to mash them together so I could get the best characters of each into one incredible movie. (Who didn't love Mrs. Bennett in the BBC version? Spot on.)

My other faves would be Persuasion with Hinds/Root and I really like the Emma movie with Beckinsale. She did really well.


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Becky (moonserenity) | 14 comments Pride and Prejudice with Keira Knightley.
Seen it so many times.
My other favourite is BBC's Sense and Sensibility. I thought it was fantastic!


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Anna (SylviaGrant) | 162 comments But who is the best Elizabeth, Mr. Darcy, Lady Catherine and Mr. Colins? Let me know.


message 32: by Carol (new)

Carol (goodreadscomcarolann) Best Elizabeth: tie between Ehle & Knightley
Best Mr. Darcy: Firth
Best Lady Catherine: Judi Dench!
Best Mr. Collins: Tom Hollander
Best Mr. Bennet: tie between Whitrow & Sutherland
Best Mrs. Bennet: Brenda Blethyn
Best Jane Bennet: Rosamund Pike


message 33: by Becky (new)

Becky (moonserenity) | 14 comments @Anna I'd have to say all the actors in P&P (2005) are the best portrayals of the characters you listed.
I wasn't a fan of the Colin Firth version. Even though he is good looking! :P


message 34: by Becky (new)

Becky (moonserenity) | 14 comments Best Elizabeth: Keira
Best Mr. Darcy: Matthew Macfayden
Best Lady Catherine: Judi Dench
Best Mr. Collins: Don't know his name...but the P&P (05) one I liked better. The other one was O.K I guess
Best Mr. Bennet: Sutherland
Best Mrs. Bennet: Brenda Blethyn
Best Jane Bennet: Rosamund Pike.


message 35: by Robin (new)

Robin (goodreadscomtriviagoddessl) I like Pride and Prejudice, the Firth/Ehle teaming. I think they brought suaveness and sophistication into the parts of Fitzwilliam Darcy and Lizzie Bennet. IMHO


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Starry | 42 comments I loved the Firth/Ehle P&P from '95 but also the (I'm sure people will gasp here) Keira Knightley version except for one thing that had me completely screaming at the screen.... Bingley was played as if he was mildly retarded.... he was like a braying donkey!


message 37: by Anastasia (new)

Anastasia (jorieana) Starry wrote: "I loved the Firth/Ehle P&P from '95 but also the (I'm sure people will gasp here) Keira Knightley version except for one thing that had me completely screaming at the screen.... Bingley was played ..."

I think that the newer version of P&P had a different take on Bingley and boy did I like it, but to say that someone is "retarded" is neither fair or politically correct especially when comparing to a "braying donkey".
P.S. I hope I did not offend you, I understand that a lot of people still use the term "retarded" where it is not called for.


message 38: by Kristin (new)

Kristin (sewtechnicolor) | 52 comments I think the casting in 2005 P&P is pretty much perfect. Especially in the Bennet family. And even though I think the book described Mr. Collins as a heavy, awkward man, I cannot picture him as anyone other than Tom Hollander. He cracks me up! :)


message 39: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) | 162 comments Starry, Hold on a second!! I didn't say mean things about the characters. I said what was your certain favorite characters without rude, unneeded remarks.


message 40: by Becky (new)

Becky (moonserenity) | 14 comments Tom was great. Though, I felt he was far too good looking and funny to play Mr Collins! :P


message 41: by Starry (new)

Starry | 42 comments No, I am not offended, as the word retarded has many valid uses, in football commentary it is common to say a player is retarded, when he is being held back by another player.
I did mean that Bingley was socially impaired, more than mentally impaired which perhaps I should have made more clear by being less brief in my comments.

As for braying like a donkey, I meant the character's laugh, which was not very elegant.


message 42: by Carol (new)

Carol (goodreadscomcarolann) I believe that in the 2005 film, Mr. Bingley (Simon Woods) was completely overwhelmed by Jane Bennet - her beauty, her innocence, and her modesty -- so much so that he became tongue-tied. His laugh was a nervous one. Have you ever met someone you like, and you laugh this silly laugh and inside you're dying because you sounded so stupid?


Did you know that Simon Woods and Rosamond Pike were once boyfriend/girlfriend and director Joe Wright didn’t want Woods proposing to Pike on film.

Also Wright also required Woods to die his hair red (it was originally blonde). After the film, no matter what, it grew back red.

**Question: If you could only pick 3 scenes in the film that were your favorite, which ones would you pick, and why?


message 43: by Robin (new)

Robin (goodreadscomtriviagoddessl) Didn't see this particular film, so do not wish to comment.


message 44: by Carol (new)

Carol (goodreadscomcarolann) Check it out at the library -- well worth it.


message 45: by Becky (new)

Becky (moonserenity) | 14 comments I always thought they'd make a lovely couple in real life. No wonder! Always thought it looekd like they had some connection. Rosamund is so beautiful


message 46: by Starry (new)

Starry | 42 comments I'd have to say Mr Collins/Tom Hollander introducing himself to Darcy at the Netherfields ball.

Darcy in the rain, the first proposal...

and Elizabeth and Lady Catherine the showdown!


message 47: by Amalie (new)

Amalie I Love (that's an L with a capital) Pride and Prejudice 1995 version starring Colin Firth and Jennifer Ehle.
I also like the latest version of Sense and
Sensibility (2007). Although the 1995 version was a brilliant production with A-listed actors and actress, I think the new one is more faithful to the plot and not badly done. If there are those of who don't know about this version (highly unlikely :) check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxXffd...

Oh yes, and I'm Ok with the opening scene surprisingly. *Usually I'm very picky!*


message 48: by Kristin (new)

Kristin (sewtechnicolor) | 52 comments My three favorite scenes of 2005 P&P (in no order):

-The first proposal.
-The whole time that Lizzy is visiting Pemberley (aka, when Mr. Darcy smiles for the first time!)
-The dinner scene at Lady Catherine's when Lizzy can't even eat because she is contantly being asked questions (and the perfect look of embarrassment and awkwardness on Mr. Darcy's face :)


message 49: by Anna (new)

Anna (SylviaGrant) | 162 comments My three favorite scenes...let's see, when Elizabeth runs away from Mr. Colins after he proposes to her, when Mr. Darcy is trying to write a letter to his sister but Caroline keeps on telling him to do this or that (that would annoying) and when Mr. Darcy's proposal in the rain. Can I add one more?? in the early morning (the near to the last scene, when Eliza and Darcy see each other.


message 50: by Rachel, The Honorable Miss Moderator (new)

Rachel (randhrshipper1) | 674 comments Mod
I have to reiterate my love of the '95 Firth/Ehle Pride and Prejudice here and list my fave scenes...

1. THE LOOK! As long as this version has this, NO OTHER ADAPTATION WILL BEST IT!

2. The first proposal. Macfadyen rushes through this but Firth really allows Darcy to be arrogant and rude WHILE declaring his love!

3. The scene where Darcy insults Elizabeth. Ehle really shines in this scene and the few after it--proving she gets Lizzy's wit as Knightley simply can't. Yes, she can pull off a one-liner as most actors can but not true snappy humor.


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