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message 1: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments I'm looking for some new gay fiction (m/m, not lesbian).

I don't mind reading erotica, but I really want character-driven stories that have believable relationships (not "you're gay, i'm gay - it's love!" or "gay for you" unless it's done really well).

I particularly like angsty coming of age stories and historical novels. I'm not interested in campy or whimsical books.

No Mary Renault please -- I love The Charioteer but I don't like her Ancient Greece books.

Some favorites:
As Meat Loves Salt
Call Me By Your Name
At Swim, Two Boys


message 2: by Christy (new)

Christy (christymtidwell) | 149 comments Have you read Allen Barnett? His stories in The Body and Its Dangers and Other Stories are really good. The settings are contemporary and I don't remember any of them being coming of age stories, but they are character-driven with believable relationships and are certainly not campy or whimsical.


message 3: by karen, future RA queen (last edited Feb 19, 2011 12:19PM) (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
(it is out of print, or i would have ordered it in for you just now)


dana, did you ever read Dennis Cooper?? he is all edgy and sexy. they call him the last true literary outlaw... (pop pop - those are gun-noises) he is totally gay and literarily pornographic.

i know he was not in the gay grab bag i gave you. (heh)


message 4: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
Men in Space


if you can't take the heat, get out of the cockpit...


message 5: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments Thanks Christy, I'll check it out.

Karen!
Re Cooper -- have you been holding out on me?
Re Men in Space -- i know you just wanted to type that tagline, but you're not allowed to rec me books in my (yes my) section!


message 6: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
greg made me do it, actually.
cooper - i wasn't sure about him for you. he is like jt leroy in my head.. like "look at me and my shock value!!". but since you like it when people jizz on fruit, it might be good for you after all!


message 7: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments hey, i seem to recall you also liking some fun with fruit.


message 8: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
hahah!!! peaches!! lesbians!!
but that was romantic, dana!

i love that book like crazy. ANYONE LOOKING FOR GOOD LESBIAN FICTION?? subtle lesbian fiction. tinges of lesbian fiction??


message 9: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments do not highjack my query with your lesbian fiction!


message 10: by Jasmine (new)

Jasmine | 455 comments there is this great m/m twincest called TORN!.

but no really I have no serious recommendations


message 11: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments i have heard of this torn. unfortunately i have not had the opportunity to read it.


message 12: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
i bet caris would mail it to you!!


message 13: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments that's ok. i hear there's some suspicious substance to beware of, right jasmine?


message 14: by Jasmine (new)

Jasmine | 455 comments what do you mean suspicious. I thought it was kind of boring honestly


message 15: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
i believe she is referring to the "substance" caris mentions in his review.


BUT WHO HAS MORE BOOKS FOR DANA??


message 16: by Greg (new)

Greg | 117 comments The Five Gates of Hell by Rupert Thomson. I don't remember too much about it, but it was kind of dark and gay.

There is also a lot of the Serpents Tail (I think, I could be wrong) High Risk stuff that came out in the 90's.


message 17: by Ian (new)

Ian | 4 comments China Mountain Zhang by Maureen McHugh. It was a little slow moving, but a very believable, character-driven story about a gay man in a near-future world where Communist China pretty much rules everything. Follows his life from New York to China and shows his affect on the lives around him. It wasn't my favorite book--I gave it three stars--but I loved the character study.


message 18: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
i sortof discussed this with you this evening, but i will put it here for posterity:

Dorian: An Imitation, which is a reimagining of wilde, but modernized, and very biting in tone towards the art scene and AIDS culture. not my favorite will self, but worth a read after you read you some oscar wilde!


message 19: by smetchie (new)

smetchie Finlater!!!!!
It's character driven and angsty coming of age!

I got had one!!

(crap! I just checked your shelf and you've already read it already.)


message 20: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
it's a good one, though, because not a lot of people know about it, so it may be useful to someone else trolling these threads.


message 21: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
dana!! i bought you a book today!! i am so excited!! it looks just like call me by your name, but in france and not italy. if you think it looks bad, i won't be upset, but i think it looks great for you:

Adam!!

it looks like it is definitely character-driven, heady forbidden love!! i flipped through it - it seems very close to the aciman or the o'neill.

it is another gay present to you!


message 22: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments yay!!! thanks karen! i'm excited!


message 23: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments Thanks for all the recommendations! More please!

Karen, I just saw the links in resources and found some more books!


message 24: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
hahaa readers' advisory to the rescue!!
i think i deserve an "a" on this project. no paper necessary.


message 25: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
and not to get ahead of myself, but did you see that adam has a sequel??


message 26: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments i can't wait to get it from you on thursday! it will be my next gay book -- when i manage to finish my requisite "not gay" book...

is the sequel orderable? assuming i like the first one...


message 27: by Jasmine (new)

Jasmine | 455 comments what is the not gay book?


message 28: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments I'm currently reading After You've Gone by Jeffrey Lent.


message 29: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
i don't know - i haven't been to work yet; i don't know if either of them are orderable...


message 30: by Jasmine (new)

Jasmine | 455 comments wait I can check which two?


message 31: by Jasmine (new)

Jasmine | 455 comments if they are the ones by anthony mcdonald both are available as pod.


message 32: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
either of the "adam" books by anthony mcdonald


message 33: by Jasmine (new)

Jasmine | 455 comments yay then YES!


message 34: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
get three of each, yeah??

and don't be offended, but tomorrow i am going to delete a bunch of this - just whatever seems unnecessary for, you know, posterity...

thanks, jazz!


message 35: by Jasmine (new)

Jasmine | 455 comments No problem any time. You can even delete this message. I'm shortlisting as Greg though cause they're in his section.


message 36: by Jasmine (new)

Jasmine | 455 comments also something called the lost library gay fiction rediscovered just came in. I'm putting it aside on karen's pile


message 37: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments yay! i ordered the lost library.


message 38: by Mariel (last edited Feb 23, 2011 12:31PM) (new)

Mariel (fuchsiagroan) Under the Poppy: A Novel Historical set before world war I. Not all of the characters are gay but the love story (the only one) is.

Altered Carbon
Scifi. I haven't read it but I know it's considered a classic for gay interest.

Stalking Darkness
This is a dark high fantasy series. The love story gets more heavy in other volumes.

Lover Mine
The next book should focus entirely on the two homosexual friends (very young men if you don't like more ya love story this might not appeal). Their subplot is very much on the forefront in this book (and hinted in previous books).


message 39: by Mariel (new)

Mariel (fuchsiagroan) And if you don't mind autobiographies...
Goodbye to All That
School story/world war 1 stories from Graves's life. I felt like all men were gay when reading it.

And if sorta pedophilia doesn't turn you off...
Other Voices, Other Rooms


message 40: by Mariel (new)

Mariel (fuchsiagroan) Our Lady of the FlowersQuerelle
Jean Genet's gay fiction for unrequited love on the fringes...


message 41: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments Thanks for the suggestions, Mariel. I particularly like that the Graves biography also would satisfy my desire for war stories.


message 42: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
oh, crappers, i forgot i put this aside for you weeks ago:

Leave Myself Behind

it is kensington, so beware, but it has been living in greg's pile waiting for you. it looks a little yick to me (comparisons to salinger when one of the characters is named j.d. make me shudder) but who knows - maybe it is secretly good.


message 43: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments Oh thanks! i actually ordered that. but then i lost my list and couldn't remember what was on it.


message 44: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
A Strong and Sudden Thaw

this came in for you today, too.


message 45: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments wow, that was quick. didn't i order that yesterday? or was it last week? i can't keep track anymore. did the ginn hale books come?

oh god, i'm spending so much money.... *facepalm


message 46: by karen, future RA queen (new)

karen (karenbrissette) | 1315 comments Mod
Lord of the White Hell - Book Two

this one came in


message 47: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments yay! hopefully the other two will come in soon! kinda need book one.


message 48: by Kathrina (new)

Kathrina | 50 comments The Line of Beauty is beautifully written, very British, but mocks that crusty British elitism that would otherwise annoy me.


message 49: by Susie (new)

Susie | 33 comments Hey Dana,

I took a queer lit class in college and really found David Leavitt's "The Lost Language of Cranes" to be fairly believable and well-written. Also, I'd recommend something like James Baldwin's "Giovanni's Room" or "Another Country." They are both very well-written and worth reading, especially the second one.

I apologize for not knowing how to include html in my message.


message 50: by Dana (new)

Dana (danarohinsky) | 56 comments Thanks for the recommendations!

I read Karen's suggestion Adam and I enjoyed it. It's a fast read and kept me interested.

The central romance is a little odd -- a 16-year-old boy and a 23-year-old with the apparent mental age of 14 -- so I found it hard to feel invested in it. Also, it seems like everyone Adam meets is gay, which is slightly unbelievable.


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