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B, I am a member of audible. I'll check it out. I can't believe your done! That's some dedicated reading!I just looked over at my daughter and winked at her and it reminded me of Jamies double eyed wink. I watched the Starz Q&A and Sam H did the Jamie wink and I have to admit it was rather endearing
Our conversion about mens behavior reminded me of this pic I had seem awhile back.
i didn't see the whole interview, LH. I'm excited to hear that if Sam is doing the Jamie owl blink then the producers/ writers etc are really paying to attention to details from the book! Hallelulah. As for Audible, definitely use your credit to buy DG's books because they are expensive.
Ladyhawk wrote: "Our conversion about mens behavior reminded me of this pic I had seem awhile back."
Awesome photo, LH. We better tell Jen to perfect her ladylike demeanor and her Jamie will come. haha.
Oh I agree, Drums of Autumn is also my 2nd favorite in the series after Outlander! I sure hope the mini-series continues up to these newer books. When he was younger I imagined Sean Bean as Bonnet. Even though he's British he does a great Irish accent and he also is brilliant at playing both menacing and charming. Alas, he's now too old for the part!edited to add: I posted this before realizing that the discussion had gone to a new page! lol!
Ladyhawk, great pic!
Great image, Ladyhawk! Haha, Burbanista, I always wondered if my ladylike demeanor was the kiss of death for most guys. However, I won't change who I am. My Jamie will come. ;) I just need to move to the UK! Or, someone ship me a handsome British gent. B, I'm so glad you thought it was off the charts fantastic! That's how I feel about it. Take a break then move on to The Fiery Cross!
Besides Jamie and Claire, I loved Jamie and (view spoiler)
Peggy, it's all good. Sean Bean would have been fantastic! I see a lot of people who like Joseph Morgan aka Klaus on Vampire Diaries for Stephen Bonnet now.
Definite yes on Sean Bean, Peggy! He might even have the edge over Colin Farrell because SB fits the physical description of Stephen Bonnet better. (And the same initials too!).
Still reeling from the breadth and power of DoA. It was a long book and covered a lot of ground. Feeling a little bereft that I'm done, but not ready to move on yet. Need to digest and analyze. So made a tactical mistake in trying to counter the Fraser blues by listening to a lighter book. Ugh! What a mistake. I chose a contemporary romance that was highly rated. After 10 minutes I shut it off in disgust and annoyance at the ridiculous, flimsy plot and 1-dimensional characters. On top of that, the narrator's voice was grating. Aaargh. Wanted to throw something. As a result, my Jamie & Claire break might be short lived!
It is quite a lot to absorb. I feel like all her books are like that. You need to dwell on them. They stay with you days after you've finished them. The latest one, especially! Tactical mistake, hahaha! I think if you'd had a *good* narrator you may have been ok. I can't listen if the narrator sucks. It detracts from the story. Then again, you're spoiled on Davina.
Spoiled for life, possibly!Ok, have to 'fess up to my first ever disgruntlement with Jamie. Up until The Gathering, he was horrible to Roger. I know the misunderstandings were rampant, and Jamie was playing Papa Bear, but he seemed like he just wanted to dislike Roger. Even after Roger's good intentions were slowly revealed! I also wish Roger had been a little more defiant, and a little less historian!
Well, Jamie is stubborn and a Scot to boot, so it takes him a while to warm up to "wee Roger." Plus, it makes him perfectly imperfect. As frustrating as it was, I think if he'd just taken to Roger it would have fallen flat. Well, Roger is a 20th century scholar thrust into the harsh reality of 18th century America. Puir lamb. Fish out of water. It's enjoyable to see his growth in the other books.
Jens right B. It's important to, like you said, digest and analyze. I know I was left dazed for a week. Then, if your nerves can take it, you move on to the next J & C story.
Burbanista wrote: "i didn't see the whole interview, LH. I'm excited to hear that if Sam is doing the Jamie owl blink then the producers/ writers etc are really paying to attention to details from the book! Hallelulah!"
Amen!
Burbanista wrote: "Definite yes on Sean Bean, Peggy! He might even have the edge over Colin Farrell because SB fits the physical description of Stephen Bonnet better. (And the same initials too!)."
HA! Agreed! But alas, Sean may be too old. Can see Klaus from VD as Bonnet. He can deliver just the right amount of wounded, crazy, yet charming sociopath.
Burbanista wrote: "Ugh! What a mistake. I chose a contemporary romance that was highly rated. After 10 minutes I shut it off in disgust and annoyance at the ridiculous, flimsy plot and 1-dimensional characters. On top of that, the narrator's voice was grating. Aaargh. Wanted to throw something. As a result, my Jamie & Claire break might be short lived! "You think that's bad? I tried to follow up Outlander with another Scottish-based romance series. No comparison. Story, narrator... night and day. THAT was a tactical mistake, lol.
Heather in FL wrote: "Burbanista wrote: "Ugh! What a mistake. I chose a contemporary romance that was highly rated. After 10 minutes I shut it off in disgust and annoyance at the ridiculous, flimsy plot and 1-dimensiona..."We have to remember that no one and I mean NO ONE writes like DG. So I read other books and try not to compare. I think it's only fair to the writer, don't you think?
Ditto for me! I read Outlander 20 some years ago. I was married at the time (not a happy marriage), and I realized right then and there that if I couldn't have a man like Jamie, I didn't want to be married. Still looking. He has ruined me for any other man. I realize that his character is a work of fiction, but would rather reach for the stars (STARZ) then settle.
After reading Outlander (or rereading one of the books) I have to follow it with something completely different because there is no comparison. Besides I am a bit emotionally exhausted after reading one of the series. The Bronze Horseman was the only other book that was like that for me. I do understand the desire to read another series like it but it is too hard to not compare.
Carren wrote: "Heather in FL wrote: "We have to remember that no one and I mean NO ONE writes like DG. So I read other books and try not to compare. I think it's only fair to the writer, don't you think? "That's absolutely true, and I knew going into it that it wouldn't be the same Outlander experience. Even given that, though, it was just a disappointing experience.
I love the series so much. I'm going to be a basket case when we actually have to say good bye to Jamie & Claire et al. I've grown so attached to every one of them. It may sound crazy, but they're like family to me.
Ladies, thanks for mentioning Joseph Morgan. I don't watch vampire shows so didn't know who he was. Just looked him up on IMDB and, YES, he really has the Bonnet "look"!
Peggy Z wrote: "Ladies, thanks for mentioning Joseph Morgan. I don't watch vampire shows so didn't know who he was. Just looked him up on IMDB and, YES, he really has the Bonnet "look"!"I just looked him up too. Nice looking guy. Could see badass potential there.
So after yesterday's fiasco with the audiobook that I picked to follow DoA, I set about my errands with nothing to listen to. (Sorry, bad grammar to end sentence with a preposition!) I really missed Davina Porter's voice, so despite my better judgment, I caved and decided to start in on Fiery Cross. Also a mistake. Much as I LOVE the Outlander series, I found that I just wasn't ready to plunge back in yet. My brain was tired.I can see reading Outlander, Dragonfly,Voyager and DoA in quick succession. The end of DoA presents a lull in the action though. I'll try to give it two weeks. Still so much to think about with DoA!
Carol wrote: "I know how you feel. I do a lot of re-reads. Am just about to start Drums of Autumn :-)"Reading or listening, Carol?
Diane wrote: "After reading Outlander (or rereading one of the books) I have to follow it with something completely different because there is no comparison. Besides I am a bit emotionally exhausted after readin..."Oooh. Will look up The Bronze Horseman.
Burbanista wrote: "So after yesterday's fiasco with the audiobook that I picked to follow DoA, I set about my errands with nothing to listen to. (Sorry, bad grammar to end sentence with a preposition!) I really mis..."IMO, The Fiery Cross has a VERY slow beginning and the first time I read it I almost gave up on the series. Back then I wasn't on any social reading groups to get feedback. But once you get past the Gathering it really picks up and so many storylines and characters are important to the continuing of the plot. Try to hang in there!
Burbanista wrote: "Diane wrote: "After reading Outlander (or rereading one of the books) I have to follow it with something completely different because there is no comparison. Besides I am a bit emotionally exhauste..."Please do it is absolutely awesome. It is certainly a different story than Outlander but it will grab your heart and not let go. There are only 3 in the series but they are long like Outlander also.
Burbanista wrote: "Carol wrote: "I know how you feel. I do a lot of re-reads. Am just about to start Drums of Autumn :-)"Reading or listening, Carol?"
Reading (own all the books and they are beginning to look well used)
I had the same issue with there being so much to read. After DoA is a great place to stop! I have taken quite a substantial break from the series. But the story keeps pulling me back. I have started reading them again, skipping to some of my favorite parts. But I think it might be time for me to move forward again.
There's a trap in just reading your favorite parts, lol! I've done that and 2 hours later find myself still reading! Seems one part leads to another... ;)
Started listening to the Fiery Cross. I know many have said it's a slow burn. That's actually a welcome relief to see J&C and entourage just live daily life for a little bit. The last half of Voyager felt like an Indiana Jones movie. We were just thrown at high speed from one adventure to the next! And DoA was just intense. So I'm all for a little down time before J&C are off and running again!
Jen (waiting for the light to change) wrote: "There's a trap in just reading your favorite parts, lol! I've done that and 2 hours later find myself still reading! Seems one part leads to another... ;)"I feel into that trap rather quickly. I ended up reading all of voyager tried to read parts of DOA and then went straight into Fiery Cross which I wasn't going to start until I finished the other book that I am reading now. I just couldn't help it. The world just pulled me back in and I have to admit I didn't resist very much.
Maddie wrote: "Jen (waiting for the light to change) wrote: "There's a trap in just reading your favorite parts, lol! I've done that and 2 hours later find myself still reading! Seems one part leads to another......"I know what you mean. It's so easy to do that!
I know! It happens so easily! :)
Ya, I don't do the "read a few parts" thing unless I'm trying to reference a passage. I can't risk being sucked in. I will disengage from the rest of the world for days and I can't do that right now! Ha! I found a hardback edition of Drums last week. It's all blue and pretty.... Haha. I had not run across any edition of Drums besides the paperback! So I was thrilled to get my hands on a hardback edition!
I know exactly what you mean, Ladyhawk! hehehe...Oooh, nice! I have the trade paperback & audiobook versions only. I'm slowly building up the hardcover versions of all.
It was fun to reference the books when we played that Outlander trivia game in this group.
I had been struggling with this book for so long that I had given up. However, I started really missing Jamie and Claire so I decided to try again with DoA. I got to the part where they dropped Bonnet off by the creek. That romantic scene with Jamie and Claire reinforced my love for this series.
It was so good I had read it aloud to my husband. Jamie is so romantic and that was the sexists and most romantic love scene so far, for me.
Vanessa wrote: "It was so good I had read it aloud to my husband. Jamie is so romantic and that was the sexists and most romantic love scene so far, for me."Wow! Perhaps I'll make an exception and go back and read that part!
If I get stuck in the book and do no housework for days, I'm blaming you! ;0)
Jen (waiting for the light to change) wrote: "I know exactly what you mean, Ladyhawk! hehehe...Oooh, nice! I have the trade paperback & audiobook versions only. I'm slowly building up the hardcover versions of all.
It was fun to reference t..."
I totally enjoy the challenge of trying to remember certain passages and finding them. The thing is, the memorable scenes are so profound, I can usually find them pretty quickly! I can remember about how far into the book and usually which side, left or right, it's on. Crazy, I know.
Good luck with your hardback acquisitions Jen! I have actually found more recent releases like EitB and FC. And even though I already have signed editions, I buy them anyway. I can't just leave them there...
Some interesting posts on FB from new to the series readers who were given the first four books from friends. Editions with some beautiful covers!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...Just found this. New hardback edition of Outlander give away.
Why did Claire suddenly fear for Jamies life after he spoke to the Barron? Is it because she feared he would go back to Scotland for people to be tennents on his land? Because he was buried in Scotland.
I am really enjoying the visit with Jocausta. I laughed so much when Ian was sprayed by the skunk. Poor little guy. I was sad when I learned she was blind. She is such a strong independent woman and I am sure that any kind of hindrance she must endure is challenging but like Jamie Duncan and Collom she will preserve and find a way to adjust.
I have only read up to book 3,and it was awhile ago that I read it. So I'm just starting DOA and I need a "re-fresh" my memory if someone could. I remember when Fergus lost his hand,but I dont remember a stepdaughter of Jamie's named Marsali..married to Fergus and awaiting their first child in Jamaica? Could someone fill in this blank I have from Voyager? Thanks :)
Marsali was Leoghaire's daughter by her first marriage. Jaime was her step dad when he married L. Fergus and Marsali fell in love and hand fasted so she could go on the trip with Fergus and Jamie. Jamie insisted that they have a church wedding at the first chance. When they became waylaid in Jamaica she stayed behind until the baby is born because it could be unsafe to travel while pregnant.
Thanks Diane! Now it all comes back,its hard sometimes to remember all the characters in the past books.
I am currently on chapter 21. I was so worried when jamie didn't come home and then I found out he injured his back. I was shocked at Brianna and Rogers scene. He had asked her to marry him and she refused. I must say that in that chapter I found him quiet sexy, whereas in DIA and Voyager I found him rather dull. I felt bad for him at first when Bree turned him down. But after she explained that she wanted her marriage to be forever and not make the mistakes claire had made, I understood. I also really respected her decision and thought it intelligent and mature. I can't wait to see how their relationship blossoms. I do hope he is as romantic as jamie.
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Heather, glad to know I'm not the only one with the temporary Bonnet insanity! Obviously he'll be back in future books, since he didn't get killed off!
LH, the audiobooks will blow you away! Wish I could lend mine, but Audible doesn't allow lending. And if we could get men to read Outlander, then they might realize that they have to step it up to impress the gals.